Trumps transformation.

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Dude653

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How about the fact that trumps entire campaign is propaganda and his policies are absurd
 

Yeraza_Bats

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How about the fact that trumps entire campaign is propaganda and his policies are absurd
How about the fact that Clintons entire campaign is propaganda and his policies are absurd
 
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LaurenTM

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Can I ask some questions that seem to go unanswered on here? When did Trump start to align himself with Christians? Has he done anything bad lately or is it all just stuff from years ago that the media is digging up? If they can't find anything recently, that could very well say he has changed...I only see his bad stuff from years ago.
I believe God may have moved on his heart...that does not mean he is a super Christian or even a Christian..God knows...I do not

however, the attacks are things done years ago and I do believe there are many false statements being tooted as truth when they are lies

I just keep praying that God will expose the lies and this am I started praying that God would judge the other candidate...there is so much corruption and people are so used to the party line coming from the clinton camp...and women seem to be eating it up...

the reality of what clinton's husband did in the oval office...and the fact he was re-elected in spite of it? indicates the moral corruption of the general population and that was year's ago! how much worse is it now? voter fraud was probably a consideration back then as well and it is worse then ever now

Christians who seem to think Trump is evil, are buying into the lie machine that is the clintons...

has there EVER been a perfect candidate? EVER?
 
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jennymae

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I'm going to be very straightforward here. There's no sign of any transformation on his end. If so, he would have handled the allegations in a different manner. What is he doing? He is acting like a toddler being caught red handed, blaming everybody else and denying, denying, denying.
 

Desdichado

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What is so absurd about Trump's policies. More often than not the thrust of the conversation on this site has to do with his character and record. Whether those two things make him a suitable President and standard bearer for American conservatism. Particularly the Christian variant thereof.

Part of the reason is that his stated policies are not controversial unless you're a columnist for the Huffington Post. The question when it comes to policy isn't the what so much as it is the why and how of it.

To that end, I'll post some ideas the Trump campaign has put forward that are not so absurd.

1. Defeat ISIS

2. Repeal Obamacare and replace it with a free market compatible system.

3. Reduce federal regulations on energy production.

4. Audit the Pentagon to cut out wasteful programs and bureaucratic red tape.

5. Actually focus on Cybersecurity.

I think to most of us on here these things make a good deal of sense. Unfortunately, they are rarely a part of the conversation.

My personal problem is that they'll be pursued by a guy with an eschewed view of executive power, but it's all a step in the right direction.
 
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I'm going to be very straightforward here. There's no sign of any transformation on his end. If so, he would have handled the allegations in a different manner. What is he doing? He is acting like a toddler being caught red handed, blaming everybody else and denying, denying, denying.
In what different manner should he have handled the allegations?
 
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LaurenTM

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I'm going to be very straightforward here. There's no sign of any transformation on his end. If so, he would have handled the allegations in a different manner. What is he doing? He is acting like a toddler being caught red handed, blaming everybody else and denying, denying, denying.

well I'm going to be straightforward too...I mean I have reputation for that, so don't want to let my public down

this is a false judgement on your part

IF he is now a believer? IF? seems God would/will bring him along as He does for each one of us

YOU are not the fruit inspector general

if you prefer a habitual lying, murderous, conniving, individual who desires to bring the world under one government, who has no use for Christianity...because there is no globalist who does...and who deliberately let 4 Americans die to the tune of 'what's the difference', then please, by all means vote for her
 

Desdichado

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In what different manner should he have handled the allegations?
Shouldn't he deny the accusations if they're false or highly embellished?

Really, this isn't going to impact my vote because the circumstances are sooooo fishy.
 
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jennymae

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What is so absurd about Trump's policies. More often than not the thrust of the conversation on this site has to do with his character and record. Whether those two things make him a suitable President and standard bearer for American conservatism. Particularly the Christian variant thereof.

Part of the reason is that his stated policies are not controversial unless you're a columnist for the Huffington Post. The question when it comes to policy isn't the what so much as it is the why and how of it.

To that end, I'll post some ideas the Trump campaign has put forward that are not so absurd.

1. Defeat ISIS

2. Repeal Obamacare and replace it with a free market compatible system.

3. Reduce federal regulations on energy production.

4. Audit the Pentagon to cut out wasteful programs and bureaucratic red tape.

5. Actually focus on Cybersecurity.

I think to most of us on here these things make a good deal of sense. Unfortunately, they are rarely a part of the conversation.

My personal problem is that they'll be pursued by a guy with an eschewed view of executive power, but it's all a step in the right direction.
1. He will most likely not defeat ISIS on the grounds of temperamental meltdown/failure:p

2. He will replace Obamacare with Care for Trump...no explanation required, really. (Having that said, Obamacare looks like a failure too)

3. I'm not all about reducing federal regulations on energy production. Energy production can even be strip mining, and honestly, that requires some real regulation.

4. I agree

5. By inviting the Russians to hack the Democrats? I can't take him seriouls anymore on this.

I think I'll just skip the absurd part of his campaign:p. It has been covered before.
 
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jennymae

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Shouldn't he deny the accusations if they're false or highly embellished?

Really, this isn't going to impact my vote because the circumstances are sooooo fishy.
He should maybe deny them once, then start talking about his politics...over and over and over again...but what is he doing? Repeating the allegations over and over again...what will people remember...his politics or the allegations?

No, but it will surely be going to impact alot of other voters.
 

Desdichado

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1. He will most likely not defeat ISIS on the grounds of temperamental meltdown/failure:p

2. He will replace Obamacare with Care for Trump...no explanation required, really. (Having that said, Obamacare looks like a failure too)

3. I'm not all about reducing federal regulations on energy production. Energy production can even be strip mining, and honestly, that requires some real regulation.

4. I agree

5. By inviting the Russians to hack the Democrats? I can't take him seriouls anymore on this.

I think I'll just skip the absurd part of his campaign:p. It has been covered before.
See? You're proving my point. His policies are not absurd. How you perceive he will execute those policies is the question at hand.

Heck, all I need to do is site your reaction to point one and go eat a sandwich.
 

Desdichado

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He should maybe deny them once, then start talking about his politics...over and over and over again...but what is he doing? Repeating the allegations over and over again...what will people remember...his politics or the allegations?

No, but it will surely be going to impact alot of other voters.
Oh I agree. See my elongated answer to Kim's OP not long ago.

I think this shows a lack of political wisdom more than a factor that can lead one to determine if he has "transformed" or not.

Granted I find the idea of a Trump transformation pretty absurd.
 
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jennymae

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See? You're proving my point. His policies are not absurd. How you perceive he will execute those policies is the question at hand.

Heck, all I need to do is site your reaction to point one and go eat a sandwich.
But I'm questioning just that, his anticipated executive skills are suboptimal at best:p
 

Yeraza_Bats

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5. By inviting the Russians to hack the Democrats? I can't take him seriouls anymore on this.
Since I think Im going to be ignored by my post in response to this above, Ill ask more clearly, do you have any reason to actually state that Trump invites Russians to hack the democrats? Is there any real reason to believe that Trump is secretly working with the Russians to bring down Hilary's campaign at all?
 
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jennymae

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well I'm going to be straightforward too...I mean I have reputation for that, so don't want to let my public down

this is a false judgement on your part

IF he is now a believer? IF? seems God would/will bring him along as He does for each one of us

YOU are not the fruit inspector general

if you prefer a habitual lying, murderous, conniving, individual who desires to bring the world under one government, who has no use for Christianity...because there is no globalist who does...and who deliberately let 4 Americans die to the tune of 'what's the difference', then please, by all means vote for her
False judgement on my part? Well, thats some accusation, but okay, if you're going down that road...