Trumps transformation.

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KimPetras

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He has said he will represent Christians and that we have been abused by our govt. he wants to secure our border. He is a friend of the second amendment. Etc etc. What's not to like? Obama said he wanted to make us different and trump wants to protect our heritage. For me it's a no brainer.
So his policies has transformed him? His words have transformed him? Your response sort of reminds me of the Hillary supporters I know who respond to my question of "What has Hillary done to show she is capable and fit to be president of the United States." They just say what she fights for/is against... To steal a line from Trump, "all talk and no action".

What has he actually done to suggest he has been transformed?
 
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So far, apologizing could be lumped into the transformation category, assuming it was sincere and he no longer feels he shouldn't apologize for anything (including God). I'll give him the benefit of the doubt. Lets see some more actions.
 
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So his policies has transformed him? His words have transformed him? Your response sort of reminds me of the Hillary supporters I know who respond to my question of "What has Hillary done to show she is capable and fit to be president of the United States." They just say what she fights for/is against... To steal a line from Trump, "all talk and no action".

What has he actually done to suggest he has been transformed?
Except trump has actually built stuff and transformed communities. Please enlighten me as to just one thing Hillary has done for the betterment of mankind. Trumps list is pretty long.
 
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Except trump has actually built stuff and transformed communities. Please enlighten me as to just one thing Hillary has done for the betterment of mankind. Trumps list is pretty long.
I don't know of anything she's done to better mankind... I know she has helped people with the Clinton Foundation, but she is the primary beneficiary (what is it like 90%?) of the Clinton Foundation.

Trump has accomplished many things as a business man, in spite of his indefensible actions and comments he's made over the past 25+ years. I just don't see him as an ideal politician, much less a transformed one. I don't see much evidence to suggest this anyways.
 
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I don't know of anything she's done to better mankind... I know she has helped people with the Clinton Foundation, but she is the primary beneficiary (what is it like 90%?) of the Clinton Foundation.

Trump has accomplished many things as a business man, in spite of his indefensible actions and comments he's made over the past 25+ years. I just don't see him as an ideal politician, much less a transformed one. I don't see much evidence to suggest this anyways.
Indefensible is such a strong word. I know people who have done and said far worse. Trump acted like an idiot but he ain't evil.
 

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Would you allow Donald Trump near one of your daughters, granddaughters or great granddaughters? I wouldn't.

He's one of those who would find me on the front porch lighting matches on the front fence with my rifle.
 
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Would you allow Donald Trump near one of your daughters, granddaughters or great granddaughters? I wouldn't.

He's one of those who would find me on the front porch lighting matches on the front fence with my rifle.
Yup...and I'd let him kiss my son on the cheek.
 
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Would you allow Donald Trump near one of your daughters, granddaughters or great granddaughters? I wouldn't.

He's one of those who would find me on the front porch lighting matches on the front fence with my rifle.
Not just no but heck no...
 
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Would you allow Donald Trump near one of your daughters, granddaughters or great granddaughters? I wouldn't.

He's one of those who would find me on the front porch lighting matches on the front fence with my rifle.
I'm glad to see there's still a southern gentleman around looking after his girls:)
 

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If my Daughter lived near Trump, that would mean she has done pretty good and got herself wealthy.
 
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the last few comments pretty much confirm how easily people succumb to the msm narrative. Did you guys hear Malania's interview with the sexual deviant Anderson Cooper?
 
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If my Daughter lived near Trump, that would mean she has done pretty good and got herself wealthy.
Same could be said if she lived near Bill Cosby's home in Massachusetts, although Cosby is "only" worth 400 mil.
 

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Same could be said if she lived near Bill Cosby's home in Massachusetts, although Cosby is "only" worth 400 mil.
Yep, Bill Cosby couldn't live in Trumps neighborhood.
 

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This was posted on my Facebook. I am NOT promoting Trump but there are some good points that's made. Feel free to agree or disagree.

"I do not care if Donald Trump called a woman fat. I do not care if he tried to sleep with a woman or if he likes "beautiful" women. I care that he sent a plane to pick up 200 Marines who were stranded after desert storm. I care that he supports our police officers and first responders. I care that he supports guns and standing behind our military. I care that he supports the death penalty and is AGAINST abortion. I care that he supports enforcing immigration laws. I care that he wants to destroy radical Islamic groups. I care that he supports COAL. These are things I care about. Him talking sexually about women does not bother me. Were they mean words? Yes. Were they words spoken in PRIVATE? Yes. Have you ever talked to your friends about the opposite sex in private and said things? I'm positive all of you have. But, News Flash!! Women have been sexualized for centuries!! Jay-Z, Lil' Jon, Lil' Wayne and every single other rapper helped establish that platform, but people are ok with music blasted all over the radio degrading women. Ever heard of Victoria Secret? Or their fashion show? Ever heard of Hooters? People are ok with that too. Until all of these things are different, women will be viewed this way. Your precious Obama couldn't change that and Hillary can't either. I feel sorry for the women Donald has belittled and said terrible things about. But I'm still much more offended by what Hillary Clinton has DONE over what Donald Trump has SAID... PERIOD!!!! So Trump doesn't do well at the debates, maybe he even sounds childish and incapable. But he is speaking the truth! Just because he's not a polished politician like Hilary or Obama doesn't mean he's unqualified to be president. He cares for this country, not growing the size of his pockets. That man has so much money he could never spend it all. He gets NOTHING out of being president! I'm standing for the man accused of saying mean words. I'll never back a woman under three different scandal investigations, possible murder at Benghazi, and the secretive email scandal which has been nothing but lies from the beginning. Trump 2016!!!
Copy and paste!!! And pass it on "
 
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Yep, Bill Cosby couldn't live in Trumps neighborhood.
I don't know if Bill Cosby is guilty or not. What I do know is that it wasn't long after he started criticizing blacks for their victim mentality that he was thrust into the spotlight with the rape stuff. It used to be they just killed well known people (Martin Luther King) who left the democrat plantation. I wouldn't be surprised.
 
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This was posted on my Facebook. I am NOT promoting Trump but there are some good points that's made. Feel free to agree or disagree.

"I do not care if Donald Trump called a woman fat. I do not care if he tried to sleep with a woman or if he likes "beautiful" women. I care that he sent a plane to pick up 200 Marines who were stranded after desert storm. I care that he supports our police officers and first responders. I care that he supports guns and standing behind our military. I care that he supports the death penalty and is AGAINST abortion. I care that he supports enforcing immigration laws. I care that he wants to destroy radical Islamic groups. I care that he supports COAL. These are things I care about. Him talking sexually about women does not bother me. Were they mean words? Yes. Were they words spoken in PRIVATE? Yes. Have you ever talked to your friends about the opposite sex in private and said things? I'm positive all of you have. But, News Flash!! Women have been sexualized for centuries!! Jay-Z, Lil' Jon, Lil' Wayne and every single other rapper helped establish that platform, but people are ok with music blasted all over the radio degrading women. Ever heard of Victoria Secret? Or their fashion show? Ever heard of Hooters? People are ok with that too. Until all of these things are different, women will be viewed this way. Your precious Obama couldn't change that and Hillary can't either. I feel sorry for the women Donald has belittled and said terrible things about. But I'm still much more offended by what Hillary Clinton has DONE over what Donald Trump has SAID... PERIOD!!!! So Trump doesn't do well at the debates, maybe he even sounds childish and incapable. But he is speaking the truth! Just because he's not a polished politician like Hilary or Obama doesn't mean he's unqualified to be president. He cares for this country, not growing the size of his pockets. That man has so much money he could never spend it all. He gets NOTHING out of being president! I'm standing for the man accused of saying mean words. I'll never back a woman under three different scandal investigations, possible murder at Benghazi, and the secretive email scandal which has been nothing but lies from the beginning. Trump 2016!!!
Copy and paste!!! And pass it on "
1.) I doubt most fathers have spoken sexually of their daughter's physical appearance.
2.) Hooters/Victoria's Secret isn't running for president of the United States, Trump is. What other people do is irrelevant of Trump or to my individual beliefs/moral compass that derive from the Holy Bible.
3.) I'm pro-life, meaning against abortion and capital punishment.
4.) Him speaking sexually to women (including his daughter) should be offensive to everyone... not sure why it doesn't bother the author of that post. Even Melania Trump was offended.
5.) This is suppose to be a pro-Trump post but Hillary is brought up numerous times... it's impossible to endorse Trump without bringing up Hillary's crimes. There are more than 2 choices, even if we don't believe they are viable.
6.) Trump has done charitable things, I can agree to that. However, as the bible states, our works are as filthy as rags. Doing good things doesn't mean the person is good overall, nor does it mean anyone that does good is qualified to be president.
 
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1.) I doubt most fathers have spoken sexually of their daughter's physical appearance.
2.) Hooters/Victoria's Secret isn't running for president of the United States, Trump is. What other people do is irrelevant of Trump or to my individual beliefs/moral compass that derive from the Holy Bible.
3.) I'm pro-life, meaning against abortion and capital punishment.
4.) Him speaking sexually to women (including his daughter) should be offensive to everyone... not sure why it doesn't bother the author of that post. Even Melania Trump was offended.
5.) This is suppose to be a pro-Trump post but Hillary is brought up numerous times... it's impossible to endorse Trump without bringing up Hillary's crimes. There are more than 2 choices, even if we don't believe they are viable.
6.) Trump has done charitable things, I can agree to that. However, as the bible states, our works are as filthy as rags. Doing good things doesn't mean the person is good overall, nor does it mean anyone that does good is qualified to be president.
You really didn't need to write all that. All you really need to say is that you want everyone to agree with you and share your outrage.
 
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KimPetras

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Not breaking the law can be considered an action.
He shouldn't get a cookie for not breaking the law... it should be expected.

On a site note, I can say Trump does obey the law, he just utilizes the loopholes that the Bush's and Clinton's have allowed their donors to receive. I don't blame Trump for doing this... he's a businessman. I blame the politicians.