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Dude653

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Of course he was. I'm just trying to see if Dude653 will consent to this.
Much evil has been perpetrated in the name of God throughout history...not the least of which was done by Saul. But some would use that to justify their own current views of one group or another. This also is wrong.
Yes there have been plenty of people who have done evil things supposedly in the name of God. Hitler was one of these people.
The point everyone seems to be missing is saying stupid stuff like the Jews are Satanic does no one any good serves only to perpetuate hatred
 

Cameron143

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Yes there have been plenty of people who have done evil things supposedly in the name of God. Hitler was one of these people.
The point everyone seems to be missing is saying stupid stuff like the Jews are Satanic does no one any good serves only to perpetuate hatred
I've already conceded that point. But isn't your own rhetoric doing the same?
 

Magenta

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Yes there have been plenty of people who have done evil things
supposedly in the name of God. Hitler was one of these people.
The point everyone seems to be missing is saying stupid stuff like the
Jews are Satanic does no one any good serves only to perpetuate hatred
Every spirit that does not confess Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the
antichrist, which you have heard is coming; even now it is already in the world.


Anyone who does not acknowledge Jesus Christ is inspired by the spirit of the antichrist.

The god of this age has blinded the minds of unbelievers so they cannot
see the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God.


Saying so does not amount to hatred. It is a Scriptural reality.
 

Dude653

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I've already conceded that point. But isn't your own rhetoric doing the same?
No because I have not said that Christians are bad people.
What I did say is there a certain people who try to warp Christianity to do evil things like Hitler did
And before anyone straw man's man, I am not a Satanist nor am I promoting satanism but let's do a thought experiment
A man runs into an airport with a bomb strap to his chest. Let's place bets on what tells just before the bomb detonates, "Hail Satan or Aluha Akbar, I'll bet my entire paycheck this week on the latter, Satanism is mostly an imaginary threat
 

Cameron143

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No because I have not said that Christians are bad people.
What I did say is there a certain people who try to warp Christianity to do evil things like Hitler did
And before anyone straw man's man, I am not a Satanist nor am I promoting satanism but let's do a thought experiment
A man runs into an airport with a bomb strap to his chest. Let's place bets on what tells just before the bomb detonates, "Hail Satan or Aluha Akbar, I'll bet my entire paycheck this week on the latter, Satanism is mostly an imaginary threat
That your remarks are incendiary is witnessed by your words. Using words and phrases like Hitler and wiping with the Constitution are in themselves designed to provoke a response. Then to act aghast at some of the responses is intellectually dishonest. A little common sense and understanding of the depravity of man could have diffused the conversation with relative ease.
 

Dude653

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That your remarks are incendiary is witnessed by your words. Using words and phrases like Hitler and wiping with the Constitution are in themselves designed to provoke a response. Then to act aghast at some of the responses is intellectually dishonest. A little common sense and understanding of the depravity of man could have diffused the conversation with relative ease.
The point I'm making is that Christian nationalism wants Christianity to get special privileges when the Constitution specifically says you can't do that.
The Constitution says all religious get equal protection under the law
 

Magenta

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No because I have not said that Christians are bad people.
What I did say is there a certain people who try to warp Christianity to do evil things like Hitler did
And before anyone straw man's me, I am not a Satanist nor am I promoting satanism but let's do a thought experiment
A man runs into an airport with a bomb strap to his chest. Let's place bets on what he yells just before the bomb detonates,
"Hail Satan or Aluha Akbar, I'll bet my entire paycheck this week on the latter, Satanism is mostly an imaginary threat
Islam is Satanic. About as Satanic as you can get :censored:

The hero of Islam: an adulterous war mongering pedophile.
 

Dude653

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Islam is Satanic. About as Satanic as you can get :censored:

The hero of Islam: an adulterous war mongering pedophile.
Yes one could argue that but my point still stands. Satanists don't play planes into buildings
 

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But it's still ultimately up to the parents to make that decision for a minor so no one is putting a gun to their head and making them do it
You moved the goalposts from what you said to Billyd.. That “no one” was trying to teach and or indoctrinate our kids.

I proved to you that was not true by the woman’s testimony and untold hundreds more like her.

I know you have said you no longer believe in Jesus. One of the biggest tragedies I’ve ever seen here.
But this young lady found Jesus before the indoctrination destroyed her. And he delivered her from Satan’s attacks, and the groomers.

 

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The Vatican also helped smuggle Nazi war criminals out of Germany after the war
As did the US, and a lot of other people. Many were installed in high office in NATO, NASA, and various EU bureaucracies.

There are tons of old-school Nazis around today, wielding a lot of power might I add. Like Klaus Schwab for example.
 

Cameron143

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The point I'm making is that Christian nationalism wants Christianity to get special privileges when the Constitution specifically says you can't do that.
The Constitution says all religious get equal protection under the law
I don't think Christians think that people of different faiths should be treated differently. I believe their concerns are that they believe without morality the privileges afforded under the constitution will be taken away. I believe there is sufficient evidence for such a concern.
 
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You want me to respect someone who slandered and defamed the families of people who had lost their children? Not going to happen.
Then your claim of respect for all was a lie.
 

Dude653

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I don't think Christians think that people of different faiths should be treated differently. I believe their concerns are that they believe without morality the privileges afforded under the constitution will be taken away. I believe there is sufficient evidence for such a concern.
This is assuming that non religious people don't have morals
Some of the nicest kindest people I have met are non religious
 
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Hitler literally said he was doing God's work.
The Nazis wore a belt buckles that said God is with us
So what? Stalin was Orthodox in his youth. Converted to atheism and slaughtered countless people.

One does not color all.

Not all Christians are white Nationalists.
 

Dude653

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So what? Stalin was Orthodox in his youth. Converted to atheism and slaughtered countless people.

One does not color all.

Not all Christians are white Nationalists.
I didn't say they are so you are straw Manning me.
 

Dude653

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I don't think Christians think that people of different faiths should be treated differently. I believe their concerns are that they believe without morality the privileges afforded under the constitution will be taken away. I believe there is sufficient evidence for such a concern.
Also it assumes that people of other religions don't have morals and that is just simply not true
 

Cameron143

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This is assuming that non religious people don't have morals
Some of the nicest kindest people I have met are non religious
As have I but that doesn't negate the loss of liberty or the inherent depravity of man.
 

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Oh no. What happened to this thread now? :eek: