What do you recommend as a response to invasion of Ukraine

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Magenta

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Okay I added it to the list,lol I watched "Winter on fire" day before yesterday It was a real good documentary so thanks. My wife's out of town with one of our family members that caught C-19 back around Christmas. It caused heart problems and pneumonia(she can't shake the pneumonia) and so my wife called and told me she needs to stay another week. My son is staying with me (I'm so old they think I need a babysitter,,,shhh don't tell them I know what they did they don think I know). But hey anyway thanks for the show to watch I'll give it a whirl.
I am sorry to hear about C-19 in your family... but glad you got to watch that documentary :) You will enjoy Little Farm, too, I'm sure!
 

iamsoandso

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I am sorry to hear about C-19 in your family... but glad you got to watch that documentary :) You will enjoy Little Farm, too, I'm sure!

Thanks I bet I will I've always loved gardening. I have a maxim till and plow but I cant crank it up any more(it beats me up) so I got a Honda https://powerequipment.honda.com/tillers/models/fg110 it's a 4 cycle and I can sit in my lawn chair and crank it up,sit and rest and then plow a little,rest a little but it works. I'm in my 80's almost 90 and I can still use the little Honda but I get tired(out of breath) it's the easiest tiller I have ever ran.
 

Magenta

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Thanks I bet I will I've always loved gardening. I have a maxim till and plow but I cant crank it up any more(it beats me up) so I got a Honda https://powerequipment.honda.com/tillers/models/fg110 it's a 4 cycle and I can sit in my lawn chair and crank it up,sit and rest and then plow a little,rest a little but it works. I'm in my 80's almost 90 and I can still use the little Honda but I get tired(out of breath) it's the easiest tiller I have ever ran.
We had a member a while back, went by the name childofGod, his real name was Frank... did you remember him or ever talk to him? He passed away some time ago, but we used to chat quite a bit in the speak your mind thread here. I once posted a pic of a field of sunflowers and he told me he grew a thousand acres of them one year! Yeah, he was on a huge farm that grew a few different things, plus he had I think over 1k cattle. He had to plow his soy beans under one year. I was trying to find out when he passed, but could not determine the date; maybe 2016. We talked about his farm a lot, and the fact that my folks both grew up in farm country, which contributed to a lot of happy childhood memories for me. My dad plowed his family's fields walking behind a horse, and later sidelined selling fruits, vegetables, honey and maple syrup etc at farmer's markets to support his family aside from his full time swing shift factory job (I have 10 siblings). I worked with him and my brothers at the farmer's markets for 10 years, and loved it. I volunteered @ 8 y/o to escape the weekend housework LOL. Crazy to go shopping now and pay $1.99 for a pound for potatoes when we used to sell a fifty pound bag (or was it 75?) for about the same price...
 

ZNP

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Harm reduction...the west should stay out of it before we start something we can't stop. Though the horse is already out of the barn. I believe we are already at war with Russia. I never thought I'd live to see this.
I heard today that 74% of Americans believe that a no-fly zone should be enforced over Ukraine. That means that if a Russian jet flies over the country, a NATO jet would shoot it down. That would start the third world war in earnest! I wouldn't test Putin.
I think there may be a limited nuclear exchange. I hope I'm wrong.
74% of select Americans that still listen to MSNBC
 
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RichMan

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It's time to give up on the Internal combustion engine. It's past it's expiration date anyways.
If gas powered cars are outlawed, what are those who cannot afford electric ones to do?
I have never owned a new car. Could never afford one.
The two I own now are 22 and 16 years old.
Have you considered the cost of replacing the battery packs on these electric cars?
It is impossible to produce enough electricity with solar and wind to to replace the energy needed to sustain life in the world today.
It is only a pipe dream.
 

ZNP

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Have you considered the cost of replacing the battery packs on these electric cars?
Yes, absolutely stunning how expensive they are. I bought an electric bike a number of years ago. Needed to replace the battery and the cost had skyrocketed to $1,000 just for the battery.
 

Billyd

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Some things on my mind today.

I'll be 81 soon, and am still waiting for Jesus's return. I'm prepared for that day.

I have enough food and water stored for six months. I hope He comes soon.

I have enough seed and fertilizer to plant my garden for the next year. Maybe He will take me before next year.

I have 3 children, 10 grand children, and 10 great grand children. I pray that God will wrap His arms around them and they will accept Him as their savior before he comes.

Meanwhile, I'm looking for a good mule, building a good compost bin, and preparing my garden for planting next year.

Now if I could only adjust my sleeping hours. Rise when the sun rises, and go to sleep when it sets.
 

Smoke

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The news is filled with idiotic suggestions -- people calling for the assassination of Putin (war crime), others calling for a no fly zone -- in other words lets start WWIII with Russia, and on and on.

So I would like to go on the record now with what I think is the proper response to this.

1. Right now we see that we shouldn't have stopped providing weapons to Ukraine, Biden put a stop to this a year ago. Based on that I would say we need to fully arm Poland and Romania so they are able to defend their borders. NATO needs to fully ramp up their defense spending. Step 1 -- we contain this thing.

2. We take refugees from this war. We have had 2 million come across our southern border this year, we can certainly take some genuine refugees. Let's send ships and planes. Do our part in the humanitarian crisis.
Genuine refugees? I mean, there are many genuine refugees from South American countries... There are many countries whose government is toxic and corrupt and this is not mentioning the power drug cartels have... I would want to leave there too if I was a citizen. Perhaps they aren't in active war with a neighboring country, that doesn't disqualify them from being legitimate refugees though.

3. Every dollar we spend to defend the Ukrainian border and to beef up security in Poland and Romania needs to be matched with money to finish our Southern wall. It is absurd to tell us that the Ukrainian border is sacred to America but our own border is not.
Nope, the DEFENSE department is meant to defend our nation... not to nation build. God bless the Ukraine, but this is not our fight, just as what's going on in Yemen and Taiwan is not our fight either. For some reason, people are more outraged by this... I don't suppose it has to do with Ukraine being mostly White Christians?

4. We are currently at war with Russia. We launched an economic warfare that has been devastating to 140 million Russians. So then Biden needs to have a frank and open discussion explaining why he did that, what vital national interest this is protecting. If Russia retaliates we need to know why we are being attacked because at this point Russia would appear justified in retaliating.
Putin is justified in attacking Ukraine when talks of Ukraine joining Nato are brought up. We have Kamala Harris talking about how she supports it days before the actual attack. I guess people here must not have brushed up on their history with Cuba/Russia. I wasn't alive then, but there is no way in hell we would allow Russia and Mexico to join an alliance together. We would stop that fast, and rightfully so.

5. What is going on with these bioweapons labs? The US state department just confirmed at least half of Russia's story, China has also confirmed it. We need to know why we would put research facilities in the Ukraine? This isn't MIT, or Cambridge, or even a major German facility. What was the reason US military would put bioweapons research facilities in Ukraine instead of a NATO country or the US?
Good question. Speaking of China, are we going to be consistent with our outrage China as we are with Russia? Why do we turn a blind eye to China for allowing this to happen in addition to all their other wrong doings, especially with Taiwan but then you want to go after Russia?

6. This war is showing to me that the links between Biden, Hunter and Ukraine are really significant and need to be investigated. I expect Senate hearings on this to get to the bottom of it.
For sure.
 
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RichMan

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Some things on my mind today.

I'll be 81 soon, and am still waiting for Jesus's return. I'm prepared for that day.

I have enough food and water stored for six months. I hope He comes soon.

I have enough seed and fertilizer to plant my garden for the next year. Maybe He will take me before next year.

I have 3 children, 10 grand children, and 10 great grand children. I pray that God will wrap His arms around them and they will accept Him as their savior before he comes.

Meanwhile, I'm looking for a good mule, building a good compost bin, and preparing my garden for planting next year.

Now if I could only adjust my sleeping hours. Rise when the sun rises, and go to sleep when it sets.
Young people would be wise to listen and follow the example of those who have lived as long as we have.
I am 76.
 

TheLearner

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I think we should buy Russia's oil to keep our prices down and not waste our reserves.

Collect all our animal and human waste and drop it on the Russian Army unising United Nations markings.

Pray for everyone to get saved.

Go in with the UN to stop another World War in its tracks.

This is just my opinon not a prophecy of anykind. Just common sense. Biden in his speech promised to raise Min Wages to $15. Maybe, the ban is his way of doing it. Think about it, if the wage is increased inflaltion goes wild. If gas prices keep climbing, We should ride bikes in summer and inflalting soars.
 

Cabrillo

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If gas powered cars are outlawed, what are those who cannot afford electric ones to do?
I have never owned a new car. Could never afford one.
The two I own now are 22 and 16 years old.
Have you considered the cost of replacing the battery packs on these electric cars?
It is impossible to produce enough electricity with solar and wind to to replace the energy needed to sustain life in the world today.
It is only a pipe dream.
Hybrids, E-85 it's not that hard and can be more efficient than gasoline. I don't know much about Bio diesel but from what I did read it's also a good enough replacement for D1, & D2 that large urban bus company have switched because they burn bio waste (cheap) and are very low in CO & Nox.

I'm an old hot rodder. I miss Hemis, Rats & thunder bolts. Life goes on. I personally don't have a car any more. I've ridden public transportation regularly for about 11 years.
 

ZNP

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Hybrids, E-85 it's not that hard and can be more efficient than gasoline. I don't know much about Bio diesel but from what I did read it's also a good enough replacement for D1, & D2 that large urban bus company have switched because they burn bio waste (cheap) and are very low in CO & Nox.

I'm an old hot rodder. I miss Hemis, Rats & thunder bolts. Life goes on. I personally don't have a car any more. I've ridden public transportation regularly for about 11 years.
Not just that, all these new electric cars can be fully controlled remotely by the beast. They can track them, turn microphones on in them, turn them on, turn them off, etc. Wow, gives the one world leader so much power!!
 
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RichMan

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Hybrids, E-85 it's not that hard and can be more efficient than gasoline. I don't know much about Bio diesel but from what I did read it's also a good enough replacement for D1, & D2 that large urban bus company have switched because they burn bio waste (cheap) and are very low in CO & Nox.

I'm an old hot rodder. I miss Hemis, Rats & thunder bolts. Life goes on. I personally don't have a car any more. I've ridden public transportation regularly for about 11 years.
There is no public transportation within 200 miles of my home.
Can not use E-85 in my 2000 truck and my 2006 economy car requires 91 octane.
Cannot afford a Hybrid nor could I afford to replace the batteries.
What you are proposing is not practical for most people.
Would actually cause a real burden on most of us.
But that is of no concern to the rich and powerful.
Sadly many who have bought into this are the same ones who would suffer the most.
 

posthuman

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Putin is, according to his approved media outlets, a conservative & great supporter of the Russian orthodox church.
any contrary opinion is clearly trying to destroy the country and absolutely false fake news MSM propaganda from devil-worshipping non-human homosexual atheists. because.


perhaps we should assume he is sent by God to rule Russia and save it from whatever other secular political party there might be, which is probably worldly, and can therefore do no wrong and is above reproach.

perhaps anyone who criticizes him is a 'liberal' and definitely not Christian
after all he's probably only a 'baby Christian' -- why judge what he does?







just thoughts
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