What is a Jew?

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That there is no such thing as a ''peace negotiation'' with people who constantly break their promises and whose goal is the death of all jews....even though Israel keeps trying.
SonInMe, how old do babies and children have to be to have this "goal is the death of all jews"?

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When you cowardly hide amungst civilians, civilians get hurt.

Why do you think war cannot have collateral damages?

Of course Israel just attacks without purpose...right?

I do not think I have ever been to a christian site before that has so much hatred towards jews
 
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I was referring to Zionism, Rachel. Your response tells me you have no idea what Zionism is. Please research before you make comments like that. Zionism is a great evil and many Jews oppose it because they know just how evil it is.
Rachel was not incorrect. Zionism is simply the zealot nationalist group who wishes to rid Israel of all else not Jewish. Their fault is not in their core desire. Their fault is in illusionment... in the illusion that violence is the requirement for completing such a task.
 
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When you cowardly hide amungst civilians, civilians get hurt.

Why do you think war cannot have collateral damages?

Of course Israel just attacks without purpose...right?

I do not think I have ever been to a christian site before that has so much hatred towards jews
it's funny... but I've never come across hatred for Jews on here before. I think I would remember it considering the fact I AM one. lol However, if you have seen such bigotry, I hope you reported it.
 

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This entire thread is.
I can say the same about bigotry against Muslims. There are probably just as many posts on that, but I digress.

Sorry you feel that way. A nation is being oppressed. Some feel they need to speak out against that oppression. As I said earlier, there are Jews that oppose Zionists. Are they accused of hating Jews as well ?

I do not oppose a race, I oppose a point of view and the way they implement that point of view.

He who allows oppression shares the crime.
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I can say the same about bigotry against Muslims. There are probably just as many posts on that, but I digress.

Sorry you feel that way. A nation is being oppressed. Some feel they need to speak out against that oppression. As I said earlier, there are Jews that oppose Zionists. Are they accused of hating Jews as well ?

I do not oppose a race, I oppose a point of view and the way they implement that point of view.

He who allows oppression shares the crime.
Desiderius Erasmus
Huge difference between disagreement with a religion and its practices than bigotry.

What nation is being oppressed? You do know there is no such thing as a palistinian homeland and there never was...right?

You do know that time after time after time the ''palistinians'' were offered EVERYTHING they say they want including land, settlements and political power....and....they....turned......it.....down time after time.

Or to be more accurate their leadership did. Many palistinians are christians. Ya know, those wonderful arab neighbors of those poor oppressed palistinians, they forced those peoples into Israel just to cause strife. The ''palistinians'' are a nomadic people whose traditional territory was Syria and Jordan
 

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Huge difference between disagreement with a religion and its practices than bigotry.

What nation is being oppressed? You do know there is no such thing as a palistinian homeland and there never was...right?

You do know that time after time after time the ''palistinians'' were offered EVERYTHING they say they want including land, settlements and political power....and....they....turned......it.....down time after time.

Or to be more accurate their leadership did. Many palistinians are christians. Ya know, those wonderful arab neighbors of those poor oppressed palistinians, they forced those peoples into Israel just to cause strife. The ''palistinians'' are a nomadic people whose traditional territory was Syria and Jordan
You like playing word games. No Palestine so the people their can be treated as they like ... right ? :)

Theodore Herzl seems to think there was a people that were removed from their land.

"We shall try to spirit the penniless population across the border by procuring employment for it in the transit countries, while denying it any employment in our own country .... expropriation and the removal of the poor must be carried out discreetly and circumspectly."
-- Theodore Herzl (from Rafael Patai, Ed. The Complete Diaries of Theodore Herzl, Vol I).


It was done so discreetly everyone still thinks the Zionist are looking for peace.

what happened to all the land that was left behind ?

"We came here to a country that was populated by Arabs and we are building here a Hebrew, a Jewish state; instead of the Arab villages, Jewish villages were established. You even do not know the names of those villages, and I do not blame you because these villages no longer exist. There is not a single Jewish settlement that was not established in the place of a former Arab Village." * Moshe Dyan, March 19, 1969, speech at the Technion in Haifa, quoted in Ha'aretz, April 4, 1969.

But wait the Zionist are doing everything for peace.

"I have learned that the state of Israel cannot be ruled in our generation without deceit and adventurism."
-- Moshe Sharett, Israel's first Foreign Minister and later a Prime Minister (p.51 Simha Flapan, "The Birth of Israel", 1987).


Maybe not. But why don't the Zionist want peace ?

"We must use terror, assassination, intimidation, land confiscation, and the cutting of all social services to rid the Galilee of its Arab population." Israel Koenig, "The Koenig Memorandum."

Now we start to see why the Zionist approve 1000 new settlements just before peace talks. They are not interested in peace.
 
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When you cowardly hide amungst civilians, civilians get hurt.

Why do you think war cannot have collateral damages?

Of course Israel just attacks without purpose...right?
You would actually refer to the victims of 9/11 as "cowardly"?

'God knows it did not cross our minds to attack the towers' | World news | The Guardian

"God knows it did not cross our minds to attack the towers but after the situation became unbearable and we witnessed the injustice and tyranny of the American-Israeli alliance against our people in Palestine and Lebanon, I thought about it. And the events that affected me directly were that of 1982 and the events that followed - when America allowed the Israelis to invade Lebanon, helped by the US sixth fleet.

In those difficult moments many emotions came over me which are hard to describe, but which produced an overwhelming feeling to reject injustice and a strong determination to punish the unjust.

As I watched the destroyed towers in Lebanon, it occurred to me punish the unjust the same way [and] to destroy towers in America so it could taste some of what we are tasting and to stop killing our children and women." --OSAMA BIN LADEN

I do not think I have ever been to a christian site before that has so much hatred towards jews
You are part of the hatred by spreading disinformation. I fight against on Holocaust denial in other threads. Are you too busy being "amazed" by "blacks and Hispanics" to help?

Just look at two of the biggest voting blocks for democrats...yep, blacks and hispanics.
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You would actually refer to the victims of 9/11 as "cowardly"?

'God knows it did not cross our minds to attack the towers' | World news | The Guardian

"God knows it did not cross our minds to attack the towers but after the situation became unbearable and we witnessed the injustice and tyranny of the American-Israeli alliance against our people in Palestine and Lebanon, I thought about it. And the events that affected me directly were that of 1982 and the events that followed - when America allowed the Israelis to invade Lebanon, helped by the US sixth fleet.

In those difficult moments many emotions came over me which are hard to describe, but which produced an overwhelming feeling to reject injustice and a strong determination to punish the unjust.

As I watched the destroyed towers in Lebanon, it occurred to me punish the unjust the same way [and] to destroy towers in America so it could taste some of what we are tasting and to stop killing our children and women." --OSAMA BIN LADEN



You are part of the hatred by spreading disinformation. I fight against on Holocaust denial in other threads. Are you too busy being "amazed" by "blacks and Hispanics" to help?

To cowardly hide behind victims refers to the acts of terrorists who hide amungst families to protect themselves. Thats how many civilian casualties happen.

Are you posting islamic made excuses for 9/11??? Oh my gosh!!!!!!!!!!!! It was the USA's fault for 9/11???

If you truly believe that, then please refrain from commenting on my posts.
 
Dec 21, 2012
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To cowardly hide behind victims refers to the acts of terrorists who hide amungst families to protect themselves. Thats how many civilian casualties happen.
So are you Timothy McVeigh?

"In the wake of the bombing, the national media seized upon the fact that 19 of the victims had been babies and children, many in the day-care center"

Oklahoma City bombing - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"Additionally, borrowing a page from U.S. foreign policy, I decided to send a message to a government that was becoming increasingly hostile." --Timothy McVeigh

"Bombing the Murrah Federal Building was morally and strategicallyequivalent to the U.S. hitting a government building in Serbia, Iraq, or other nations." --
Timothy McVeigh
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Are you posting islamic made excuses for 9/11??? Oh my gosh!!!!!!!!!!!! It was the USA's fault for 9/11???

If you truly believe that, then please refrain from commenting on my posts.
Here is what Adolf Hitler wrote in 1926 in Mein Kampf. Should we ignore what he wrote as you seek to ignore "Islamic made excuses"? Where does that lead to? When someone says they want to gas a million Jews, then basic social responsibility requires that we take notice. The rest of the world figured this out in 1945, won't you join us?

From Google Translate, it's acceptable for the purposes of this post:

"If you had to start of the war and during the war once twelve or fifteen thousand of these Hebrew corrupters of the people held under poison gas, as hundreds of thousands of our best German workers from all walks of life had to endure it in the field, then the millions of victims of the front would not have been in vain. On the contrary: twelve thousand scoundrels eliminated in time, perhaps a million decent, valuable for the future Germans had saved his life."

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"Hätte man zu Kriegsbeginn und während des Krieges einmal zwölf- oder fünfzehntausend dieser hebräischen Volksverderber so unter Giftgas gehalten, wie Hunderttausende unserer allerbesten deutschen Arbeiter aus allen Schichten und Berufen es im Felde erdulden mußten, dann wäre das Millionenopfer der Front nicht vergeblich gewesen. Im Gegenteil: Zwölftausend Schurken zur rechten Zeit beseitigt, hätten vielleicht einer Million ordentlicher, für die Zukunft wertvoller Deutschen das Leben gerettet."
 
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I don't think anyone picked up on what was going on in the video and addressing it : That is probably my fault to assume anyone would .

Israel Is in the news, everyday. Our alliance with the "" Israelites" ; which are also in positions of power in the US government. This has lead to our involvement in the conflicts there, leading to many lives lost and even change of the way Americans act, in its own government when addressing anything related to the "jews"; have the leftest among them, politically incorrect to talk about anything, disregarding truth even, for the sake of not offending some one.

That was One, reason, the video was, posted, to have a conversation ( civil ), on the role of the US, and, how prominent Israeli - ( Jews ) In seats of power in and around the President.


The other subject, the video was suppose to address, is, the place of origin of the Jews currently living in Israel . Are they Jews of the Bible, or are they people that originate else where, and and have simply adopted a faith, in order to be connected to Biblical Israelites ?


I have found, that many are not people that are not biblical Jews at All. But have simply long ago, adopted the faith.

The video shows, that many Jews, call themselves a race. not a religion. So the conversation I hope, would have produced articles and talk about The history of the land of Israel and the origin of the people living there at present.

This should not be a conversation about, if they should be there or not, that is not productive. But looking in the history of the area and weather or not the people currently there, are remotely related to the Biblical Israelites, or not.

Perhaps I will have to take into consideration in the future; this is , too adult ;a conversation for some. .
 
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Jewish conspiracies.

Really?

Henry Ford would be so proud
 
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Ashkenazi Jews look like East Asians =)) . However , they have beards :D

He looks like Vietnamese.



This person looks like Vietnamese too .



This man with black fur hat looks like Chinese .





 
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