Who are you voting for?
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If all CC members don't live in american, i'm obviously talking to american voters, I didn't think i needed to explain that to people. I understand us voting is not direct, that their's a process, but no one talks like that when they speak of voting, don't be pretentious. I can understand you not voting for Romney because he's a Mormon, but he's very qualified, why don't you think so? No matter what you believe, he is more qualified then Obama, why not vote for the lesser of two evils? Just curious.
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Is Romney qualified? Yes.
Is he more qualified than Obama? No.
The qualifications for President of the United States are as follows:
1) They must be a natural born citizen of the U.S. Both Obama and Romney are natural born citizens of the U.S. (And I know there are idiots out there who are still contending that Obama was not born in Hawaii. They are idiots, and I will not apologize for calling them that.)
2) They must be a minimum of 35 years of age, and they must have been a resident of the U.S. for at least 14 years. Both Romney and Obama meet those criteria.
3) They cannot be elected to the office of president more than twice. Obama has been elected once before, this would be his second if he wins. That is still within the limit. Romney has not been elected as president yet. Therefore, both men meet this requirement.
4) If they have served as President for more than two years of a term in which someone else was elected President (i.e., if a Vice President serves out more than two years of the term due to the President's death), then that person cannot be elected to the office of president more than once. Neither men have ever served as President in a term where someone else was elected to that office, so this criterion doesn't even come into play.
Obama and Romney are both equally qualified to be President of the U.S., according to Article II, Section 1 and Amendment XXII, Section 1 of the Constitution.
Sorry, but if you're going to vote for someone based on qualifications alone, both men qualify.
I understand there are many people who just agree with Romney's politics, and disagree with Obama's. I happen not to share their opinion, but it's an opinion, and everyone is entitled to one.
If you're going to talk about "qualifications," you need facts to back that up, and the facts just do not support the statement that Romney is "more qualified" than Obama.
Is he more qualified than Obama? No.
The qualifications for President of the United States are as follows:
1) They must be a natural born citizen of the U.S. Both Obama and Romney are natural born citizens of the U.S. (And I know there are idiots out there who are still contending that Obama was not born in Hawaii. They are idiots, and I will not apologize for calling them that.)
2) They must be a minimum of 35 years of age, and they must have been a resident of the U.S. for at least 14 years. Both Romney and Obama meet those criteria.
3) They cannot be elected to the office of president more than twice. Obama has been elected once before, this would be his second if he wins. That is still within the limit. Romney has not been elected as president yet. Therefore, both men meet this requirement.
4) If they have served as President for more than two years of a term in which someone else was elected President (i.e., if a Vice President serves out more than two years of the term due to the President's death), then that person cannot be elected to the office of president more than once. Neither men have ever served as President in a term where someone else was elected to that office, so this criterion doesn't even come into play.
Obama and Romney are both equally qualified to be President of the U.S., according to Article II, Section 1 and Amendment XXII, Section 1 of the Constitution.
Sorry, but if you're going to vote for someone based on qualifications alone, both men qualify.
I understand there are many people who just agree with Romney's politics, and disagree with Obama's. I happen not to share their opinion, but it's an opinion, and everyone is entitled to one.
If you're going to talk about "qualifications," you need facts to back that up, and the facts just do not support the statement that Romney is "more qualified" than Obama.
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Actually, i agree with him. It was obvious this was geared towards Americans.
And he's right, in America, this is how these things are discussed. Seems you're trying to correct an American on how Americans talk, without any real first hand knowledge. But i am seeing a pattern forming here, so i'm not too surprised.
And he's right, in America, this is how these things are discussed. Seems you're trying to correct an American on how Americans talk, without any real first hand knowledge. But i am seeing a pattern forming here, so i'm not too surprised.
I'm more than likely not voting. I just really don't see a point to it anymore since there's never any good options, just a "lesser of two evils" option. But I said the same thing last time and still caved to peer pressure (aka: my insanely patriotic bf at the time who thought it was horrifically unamerican for me not to vote), so should such a thing occur again, I'm voting Obama. I live in a predominantly blue state anyways though meaning NY will already vote Obama so in many ways my vote does not mean squat, but on the plus side I've contributed to the system and done what really matters... ensured my name is available to be drawn for jury duty later in the future. Woohoo!
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Seriously.
To "Justcuz" and others who think "liberal" is a bad thing, can you explain yourselves?
In life, being liberal means giving freely, and expecting nothing in return. I can see how someone could be "liberal" in life, but not in politics. So maybe you're just talking about politics.
Politically, being liberal means you are concerned about the plight of the poor, the homeless, the orphan and widow, the outcast, the alien. What did Jesus have to say about that?
Politically, being conservative means you are more concerned about the business owner, the wealthy, those who already have power in the society. What did Jesus have to say to those at the top of the political structure?
Even if you're talking politics, I still fail to see how "liberal" is a bad thing.
Go ahead, people, defend your position. Explain to us how Jesus would agree with giving the Scribes and the Pharasees tax breaks while the poor get nothing. Show me Scripture where Jesus said, "Blessed are the Rich, for they have found favor with God, but cursed are the poor, for they don't have anything now and that's the way it should be."
I'm waiting.
To "Justcuz" and others who think "liberal" is a bad thing, can you explain yourselves?
In life, being liberal means giving freely, and expecting nothing in return. I can see how someone could be "liberal" in life, but not in politics. So maybe you're just talking about politics.
Politically, being liberal means you are concerned about the plight of the poor, the homeless, the orphan and widow, the outcast, the alien. What did Jesus have to say about that?
Politically, being conservative means you are more concerned about the business owner, the wealthy, those who already have power in the society. What did Jesus have to say to those at the top of the political structure?
Even if you're talking politics, I still fail to see how "liberal" is a bad thing.
Go ahead, people, defend your position. Explain to us how Jesus would agree with giving the Scribes and the Pharasees tax breaks while the poor get nothing. Show me Scripture where Jesus said, "Blessed are the Rich, for they have found favor with God, but cursed are the poor, for they don't have anything now and that's the way it should be."
I'm waiting.
I bet i have more than enough information bro, maybe even more than most americans my age. Can't stop you from seeing patterns. You should be worried if you start seeing colors too though.
The question was generally put, so it wasn't that obvious at all. Another thread already has 'who WOULD you vote for?' That's a question even i could answer, and that way no one is excluded. Even as a dutchman i have an opinion about the candidates. Who the next president will be also effects the rest of the world. But if you want to have a nice all american discussion about who your next pres should be, go right ahead. (As if there is something to chose anyway.)
I am sure that most know this, but who a person decides to vote for is a personal, and PRIVATE choice.
There are some things I agree with Romney on, and there are some things I agree with Obama on. Who will I vote for? I have no clue, but it is my business.
Also, if someone who is non American wants to voice their opinion then let them. This isn't a real poll or a real election. It is THEIR opinion ONLY.
There are some things I agree with Romney on, and there are some things I agree with Obama on. Who will I vote for? I have no clue, but it is my business.
Also, if someone who is non American wants to voice their opinion then let them. This isn't a real poll or a real election. It is THEIR opinion ONLY.