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Truth7t7

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I understand your point of view ... however I am more persuaded that our primary role is to spread the Gospel and then the result will be people living under grace as planned by God.

Tell me do you think adulterers and homosexuals should be put in jail?

Where do we draw the line?
"Our"?

You really hate my President Trump, a man that opposes killing the innocent unborn (Abortion)

The gospel you spread is support for those that kill the innocent unborn, directly related to the Patriotic President Trump that you despise and hate

You claim to be a Christian?

Matthew 7:22-23KJV
22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
 

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In California, the homosexual agenda has moved in public elementary schools, to mandate text books and training on homosexuality?

Using taxpayer dollars to mandate teaching that opposes biblical Christian teachings?

Just One Example
And so follow the example through. How does this hurt society?
 

Truth7t7

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Difficult, you are too kind, more like impossible and lest we forget non-Christian.
Who would hate and despise a Government ruler (President, Donald J. Trump) that openly opposes killing the innocent unborn (Abortion)?

You :eek:

Ye Shall Know Them By Their Fruits

Matthew 7:16-23KJV
16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.
18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
 
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"Our"?

You really hate my President Trump, a man that opposes killing the innocent unborn (Abortion)

The gospel you spread is support for those that kill the innocent unborn, directly related to the Patriotic President Trump that you despise and hate

You claim to be a Christian?

Matthew 7:22-23KJV
22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

Find a post where I have stated I hate Trump.
 

Roughsoul1991

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Damage to others requires proof and we are speaking about a large, not very homogeneous population.
Yes you have to study the data, personal testimonies, and research. There is a new documentary out called In His Image
You can watch it free here.
https://inhisimage.movie/

It has a good bit of information on this topic.
 

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I strongly believe the Dominion/Smartmatic voting system put Obama in office?

This voting system has been in operation within the US since 2005, since Dominions acquisition of "Sequoia" who controlled the US market in voting machines and tabulation?

Obama 2008-2012? Dominion/Smartmatic
If founded to be true. This would make so much sense.
 

Truth7t7

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And so follow the example through. How does this hurt society?
Gods words concerning homosexuality?

(They Which Commit Such Things Are Worthy If Death)?

2 Peter 2:6KJV
6 And turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrha into ashes condemned them with an overthrow, making them an ensample unto those that after should live ungodly;

Roman's 1:26-32KJV
26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly,
and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,
30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,
31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:
32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.
 

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If founded to be true. This would make so much sense.
In 2006 "Sequoia" was in 17 States, in Obama's 2008 Run it was more, with Venezuelas Smartmatic In Full Swing, Look At Obamas Smile Of Gratitude?


President Barack Obama met Venezuelan leader Hugo Chavez for the first time at the Summit of the Americas.

Wikipedia: Smartmatic

Founding
In 1997,[4] three engineers, Antonio Mugica, Alfredo José Anzola and Roger Piñate[5], began collaborating in a group while working at Panagroup Corp. in Caracas, Venezuela.[6][7][8][9][10][11] Following the 2000 United States presidential election and its hanging chad controversy in Florida, the group proposed to dedicate a system toward electoral functions.[10][12] Smartmatic was officially incorporated on 11 April 2000 in Delaware by Alfredo José Anzola.[13][14][15] Smartmatic then established its headquarters in Boca Raton, Florida with seven employees.[8][9] After receiving funds from private investors,[8] the company then began to expand.

Expansion
Smartmatic was a little-known firm with no experience in voting technology before it was chosen by the Venezuelan authorities to replace the country's elections machinery ahead of a contentious referendum that confirmed Hugo Chávez as president in August 2004.[16] Before the election, Smartmatic was part of a consortium that included a software company partly owned by a Venezuelan government agency.[17] In March 2005,[16] with a windfall of some $120 million from its first three contracts with Venezuela, Smartmatic then bought the much larger and more established Sequoia Voting Systems, which by 2006 had voting equipment installed in 17 states and the District of Columbia.[16] On August 26, 2005, Sequoia Voting Systems announced[18] that Mr. Jack Blaine would serve in the dual role as President of Sequoia Voting Systems and President of Sequoia's parent company, Smartmatic.

Wikipedia: Sequoia Voting Systems
After losing money for several years, on March 8, 2005, Sequoia was acquired by Smartmatic, a multi-national technology company which had developed advanced election systems, voting machines included. Thereafter Smartmatic assigned a major portion of its development and managerial teams, dedicated to revamping some of Sequoia's old-fashioned, legacy voting machines, and replacing their technology with avant-garde proprietary features and developments, which resulted in new, high-tech products. As a result, Sequoia sold many new-generation election products and experienced a healthy financial resurrection during the fiscal years of 2006 and 2007. However, in November 2007, following a verdict by the Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States (CFIUS), Smartmatic was ordered to sell Sequoia, which it did to its Sequoia managers having U.S. citizenship.[12]

California decertification/recertification
On August 3, 2007, California Secretary of State Debra Bowen withdrew approval and granted conditional reapproval[13] to Sequoia Voting Systems optical scan and DRE voting machines after a "review of the voting machines certified for use in California in March 2007"[13] found "significant security weaknesses throughout the Sequoia system"[14] and "pervasive structural weaknesses"[14] which raise "serious questions as to whether the Sequoia software can be relied upon to protect the integrity of elections."[14]
 

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Sir, while I can recognize and acknowledge your means for deduction, generalizations and reasoning - I also acknowledge your rather astute and masterful debating skills... The makings of a good lawyer - fully capable of making the case for whichever side or position that you choose defend.

I on the other hand tend to see things thru a different lens and often in broader terms of observation.

While I am not in the business of trying to influence or bias other people's decision making processes - but since you asked my opinion I am glad to response... Albeit, I have to say that I do not see the point of this sort of inquiry - knowing that it only serves as a mere distraction away from the bigger more strategic picture at stake for our democracy...

Recall my comment applied to 'Politicians' - being that given the distrust of biased MSM and SM tech giants (censorship, dishonest reporting - don't believe your own eyes - no violence, riots or looting to see here)...

I suggest that 'we' demand EQUAL vetting and professional journalistic reporting upon all news worthy Politicians; Not only should we question what all Politicians 'say' (it's about what they 'do' anyway) 'we' should also question (from this point forward) what we hear and see from MSM and SM - forever, or until they are held accountable for fair and balanced reporting

IMHO, Yes, Cruz eyeing his run in 2016 and prospect for 2024 was, is and would be a very smart Political play to attempt to garner Trump's base to build upon for his personal favor as a point of departure for 2024... I would advise 'we' refrain from using potentially flawed (if then) logic in validating our personal assumptions to discern judgements of others...

If we have re-learned anything from the 2020 elections, primaries and debates - if we are objectively looking at it equitably from both sides... We can confirm that Politicians (on both sides) can be found contradicting themselves, and striving to gain whatever political advantage they can for their Personal Gains (first) and their Party (second)... Recall Kamala's scathing racist accusations of Biden during their primary debate... We can play this tit for tat back and forth all day... But at the end of the day emotional debates about personality quirks or 'he said, she said' are mere mouse holes - given the bigger picture, consequences and stakes...

My bigger and more significant comment remains the more strategic issue and concern for the future state of our democracy: where "the Enemy of My Enemy is My Friend..." Where Cruz see's that he and Trump and 74K+ Patriots are on the side of defending our US Constitution against all Enemies... Where the common Enemy are the perceived Puppeteers who have financed, enabled and/or orchestrated Leftest Operatives whose actions and activities continue to raise more than a reasonable doubt about the current and future integrity of our once trusted liberty and democracy.

I'm a professional research analyst - I'm all about proving or dis-proving hypotheses and coming away with a better and more grounded understanding of the ground-truth... The analogy being 'Instant Replay' in professional or Olympic sports... Anyone who opposes an analogous 'Instant Replay' to fairly and objectively adjudicate the rightful winner (left or right) - IMHO is essentially exposing themselves as being completely BIASED to tilt the rules as long as they favor their side... As such, they are essentially declaring themselves to be on the side of the Enemy of our Constitutional Democracy...
Legitimate honest truthful forensic audits are anathema to the criminal radical Dem cabal.

Not one liberal on this thread has insisted upon this.....before declaring Biden a winner.

This flies in the face of about 100 million Americans who are seething in rage over this theft.
This infamy shall not stand rest assured. One way or another Trump will obtain what is rightfully his....the 2020 Presidential election victory.

If it means military tribunals for the conspirators....that's fine with me. Let's get this over with. Cut out the cancer and don't miss any of it.
 

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she means "our" with respect of being Christians, when she says our duty is to the gospel, not to devote ourselves to worldly partisan politics.

being a sycophantic Trump acolyte is not a litmus test of Christianity. believing that Christ the Son is God manifest in the flesh, who lived, was crucified, died and rose again for our salvation is.

if you think that a person who isn't a disciple of the outgoing president can't be a Christian, then you are preaching another gospel & the Bible tells me to treat you as though accursed.
 

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she means "our" with respect of being Christians, when she says our duty is to the gospel, not to devote ourselves to worldly partisan politics.

being a sycophantic Trump acolyte is not a litmus test of Christianity. believing that Christ the Son is God manifest in the flesh, who lived, was crucified, died and rose again for our salvation is.

if you think that a person who isn't a disciple of the outgoing president can't be a Christian, then you are preaching another gospel & the Bible tells me to treat you as though accursed.
You really hate my President Trump, a man that opposes killing the innocent unborn (Abortion)

The gospel you spread is support for those that kill the innocent unborn, directly related to the Patriotic President Trump that you despise and hate

You claim to be a Christian?

Matthew 7:22-23KJV
22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
 

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she means "our" with respect of being Christians, when she says our duty is to the gospel, not to devote ourselves to worldly partisan politics.

being a sycophantic Trump acolyte is not a litmus test of Christianity. believing that Christ the Son is God manifest in the flesh, who lived, was crucified, died and rose again for our salvation is.

if you think that a person who isn't a disciple of the outgoing president can't be a Christian, then you are preaching another gospel & the Bible tells me to treat you as though accursed.
Boosting baby killer Biden and Harris is an infinitely greater sin than a patriotic American who dutifully under God acknowledges Trump as our president.

It is impossible for me to reconcile with any supposed Christian who upholds and supports
Biden- Harris. They have lost all honor, any credibility, both are willfully engaged in criminal election fraud. One is a crypto-communist the other is a CCP asset bought and paid for. Both are targeting the destruction of the Constitution and the defeat of America by conspiring & colluding with its deadly enemies both within and without.

If at all possible lock them up. Lock them both up.
 

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You claim to be a Christian?
being a Christian is about Christ, not about cultic worship of a worldly political figure.

you really, really ought to change your screen name. close this account and sign up for CC with a different alias, please -- your current name & demeanor are offensive to the faith & the English language.
 

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DON JR ANNOUNCED AS ‘FOUNDING JOURNALIST’ AT NEW COMPANY THAT WILL ‘MAKE NEWS CREDIBLE AGAIN’ – RAW STORY

Just as I and many other people predicted. A Trump branded news network would be a huge with Americans everywhere. Is everyone can see the MSM propaganda machine is becoming obsolete.
For sure CNN is for all intents and purposes now bankrupt.

https://inula.org/2020/12/12/don-jr...that-will-make-news-credible-again-raw-story/
 

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Ruh-Roh. Hunter Biden Subpoenaed Over Burisma, Two Dozen Other Entities

Hunter Biden has been subpoenaed by federal investigators over his involvement with at least two dozen entities - including Ukrainian gas company Burisma, according to the Associated Press, citing a 'person familiar with a Justice Department tax investigation."

The subpoena, issued Tuesday, covers a wide swath of Hunter's taxes and international business dealings - in what could be a serious case against the Biden family (or a serious attempt to put a DOJ 'bow' on the 'matter'). AP notes that it's unclear if Burisma is a central part of the investigation - despite Joe Biden admitting on tape that he had Ukraine's chief prosecutor fired during the same period as said investigator, Viktor Shokin, was investigating Burisma's founder for corruption.

The subpoena also covers Hunter's Chinese business dealings and other financial transactions. AP also notes that Hunter fell under investigation in 2018 - knowledge which somehow didn't leak from the DOJ until after the 2020 election. During the election, of course, Hunter was completely off limits - with a virtual press blackout on the subject, and President Trump receiving a sharp rebuke from debate moderator Chris Wallace for bringing it up.
 

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Fraud Investigator Who Sought to Disprove Sidney Powell Says His Analysis Shows Biden Did 1.5% Better Where Dominion Machines Were Deployed. Expert Recommends Audit.
Some peeps are going to jail for this. Hopefully Obama. And most of his administration. Hopefully military prison.

The Election Wizard on Twitter: "Fraud Investigator Who Sought to Disprove Sidney Powell Says His Analysis Shows Biden Did 1.5% Better Where Dominion Machines Were Deployed. Expert Recommends Audit. | The Election Wizard https://t.co/CuZjkCzAHB" / Twitter
 
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There ain’t no armies invading us. Unless Canada or Mexico decide to do so😎. From what I’m hearing there’s no such plans as of today. He must be talking about Martians. There’s a rumor saying that the Martians will offer the president asylum, maybe they’re here to fetch him?
No need for foreign enemies to attack us when the cancerous rot know as democrats are destroying our country from within. But you already knew that, and for some reason you welcome it with glee.
 

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Ruh-Roh. Hunter Biden Subpoenaed Over Burisma, Two Dozen Other Entities

Hunter Biden has been subpoenaed by federal investigators over his involvement with at least two dozen entities - including Ukrainian gas company Burisma, according to the Associated Press, citing a 'person familiar with a Justice Department tax investigation."

The subpoena, issued Tuesday, covers a wide swath of Hunter's taxes and international business dealings - in what could be a serious case against the Biden family (or a serious attempt to put a DOJ 'bow' on the 'matter'). AP notes that it's unclear if Burisma is a central part of the investigation - despite Joe Biden admitting on tape that he had Ukraine's chief prosecutor fired during the same period as said investigator, Viktor Shokin, was investigating Burisma's founder for corruption.

The subpoena also covers Hunter's Chinese business dealings and other financial transactions. AP also notes that Hunter fell under investigation in 2018 - knowledge which somehow didn't leak from the DOJ until after the 2020 election. During the election, of course, Hunter was completely off limits - with a virtual press blackout on the subject, and President Trump receiving a sharp rebuke from debate moderator Chris Wallace for bringing it up.
Sorta Criminal,All This Should Have Been Conducted A Year Ago, When The FBI Obtained The Hunter Biden Laptop?

Scary to think, Jan 20th Biden Being Sworn In,Then 30 days later impeached for criminal activity, Then Kamala Harris President?

Biden must be stopped before Jan 20th, Patriots cant let this happen, its main stream news now, what's going on?
 
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