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I don't know who you're talking to but you must understand that they are here to sow discord doubt and despair. If they sound like deceivers it's because they are.

I would urge every Christian on this thread: don't allow Satan to continually whisper in your ears.
I do not see how it serves any good purpose whatsoever.
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Kayla mentioned '11' - thus EleventhHour. I had to put her on 'ignore' a while back too…her TDS has rendered her utterly insensible and it was even a little funny at first but now the descent into nonstop vitriol and shameless deceit is not worth sorting thru anymore hence iggyland.
 
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Why is the church silent on this ... does life not start at conception?
So aborting an embryo before they can can implant in the uterus is boring.

This is why I do not out much credence in people who make abortion a central issue and yet unwilling to face other truths.


I think BC is a moot point. They fail constantly because people, especially young people, do not know how to use them. Sex outside marriage is wrong. But I don't expect anyone outside the church to agree with that. If BC was working we wouldn't have 60 million aborted babies. And my point still remains we need to stop putting people in office that glorify abortions. I don't give credence to people who support a liberal Christian worldview or who would vote for a liberal agenda that glorifies abortion. For instance a female singer from a popular band from back in the day said that thanks to her abortion, she was able to make music to change the world. BC isn't the problem here, it's a heart issue, it's evil. It's me first, my choice. As I said, long past time for the church to take a stand.
 
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If the pill prevents conception, there is no abortion:rolleyes:
There are three modes of action, when the first two fail the third is changing the lining of the uterus so the embryo cannot implant.

When this fails the woman becomes pregnant which is why the birth control pill is not 100%.
 

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This man is a chieftain of the Chinese Communist Party. And he has been peddling his wares all over the swing States. God willing these conspiring politicians should be instantly dismissed for treason. And there are a lot of them believe it.


 
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so, heavy handed gov. tactics are fine if people will not do as they should, that is what you are saying.

typical liberal mindset- gov, is the solution , people are the problem.

sorry, my rights do not end where someone else's fear of a overhyped, overcounted virus begins,,,,
You just twisted what I wrote.
Not even close to what I stated.
 
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Kayla mentioned '11' - thus EleventhHour. I had to put her on 'ignore' a while back too…her TDS has rendered her utterly insensible and it was even a little funny at first but now the descent into nonstop vitriol and shameless deceit is not worth sorting thru anymore hence iggyland.
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Look at the bright side tho - we still have Posthuman with his purple prose tho for comic relief !
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Why is the church silent on this ... does life not start at conception?
So aborting an embryo before they can can implant in the uterus is boring.

This is why I do not out much credence in people who make abortion a central issue and yet unwilling to face other truths.
Not all birth control does this. But it is in fact abortion once conception has occurred.

Abortion in the medical sense should only occur under a medical emergency as the Dr must decide who has the higher chance of living. The mother or the child. And then the mother must decide the odds or her husband if she isn't conscious.

A lady in our church had an abortion because the fetus was growing in the fallopian tube and not the uterus.

"Ectopic pregnancy, also called extrauterine pregnancy, is when a fertilized egg grows outside a woman’s uterus, somewhere else in their belly. It can cause life-threatening bleeding and needs medical care right away.

Ectopic Pregnancy Treatment
Because a fertilized egg can’t survive outside a uterus, your doctor will need to take it out so you don’t have serious health problems. They’ll use one of two methods: medication or surgery."

Unfortunately, most abortions are simply done because the mother, spouse, boyfriend, or family doesn't want the child.

"Data from Florida reveal that, in 2018, an overwhelming majority of women reported obtaining an abortion for reasons other than to preserve their own life or health, or due to fetal-health complications.

A 2004 survey by the pro-choice research group the Guttmacher Institute confirms what Florida’s data suggest, finding that just 4 percent of women who obtained abortions reported a physical-health problem, 3 percent cited possible fetal-health problems, and fewer than .5 percent were pregnant as the result of having been raped. The most common reasons women cited for obtaining an abortion were not being ready for a child or another child, or being unable to afford a child."
https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/florida-abortion-statistics-debunk-common-pro-choice-argument/



"Florida sorts reasons for abortions into eight general categories: life of the mother; physical health of the mother; emotional or psychological health of the mother; abnormality in the baby; rape; incest; social or economic concerns; and elective.

In 2016, elective abortions made up 92 percent of all abortions reported in Florida.

In 2017, elective abortions fell to 80 percent of the total, and in 2018, elective abortions made up just 75 percent of all abortions in Florida.

The reasons for the abortions performed in 2019 were similar to those reported the previous year. Three-quarters of the abortions were categorized as elective"

https://lozierinstitute.org/abortion-reporting-florida-2019/
 
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Not all birth control does this. But it is in fact abortion once conception has occurred.

Abortion in the medical sense should only occur under a medical emergency as the Dr must decide who has the higher chance of living. The mother or the child. And then the mother must decide the odds or her husband if she isn't conscious.

A lady in our church had an abortion because the fetus was growing in the fallopian tube and not the uterus.

"Ectopic pregnancy, also called extrauterine pregnancy, is when a fertilized egg grows outside a woman’s uterus, somewhere else in their belly. It can cause life-threatening bleeding and needs medical care right away.

Ectopic Pregnancy Treatment
Because a fertilized egg can’t survive outside a uterus, your doctor will need to take it out so you don’t have serious health problems. They’ll use one of two methods: medication or surgery."

Unfortunately, most abortions are simply done because the mother, spouse, boyfriend, or family doesn't want the child.

"Data from Florida reveal that, in 2018, an overwhelming majority of women reported obtaining an abortion for reasons other than to preserve their own life or health, or due to fetal-health complications.

A 2004 survey by the pro-choice research group the Guttmacher Institute confirms what Florida’s data suggest, finding that just 4 percent of women who obtained abortions reported a physical-health problem, 3 percent cited possible fetal-health problems, and fewer than .5 percent were pregnant as the result of having been raped. The most common reasons women cited for obtaining an abortion were not being ready for a child or another child, or being unable to afford a child."
https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/florida-abortion-statistics-debunk-common-pro-choice-argument/



"Florida sorts reasons for abortions into eight general categories: life of the mother; physical health of the mother; emotional or psychological health of the mother; abnormality in the baby; rape; incest; social or economic concerns; and elective.

In 2016, elective abortions made up 92 percent of all abortions reported in Florida.

In 2017, elective abortions fell to 80 percent of the total, and in 2018, elective abortions made up just 75 percent of all abortions in Florida.

The reasons for the abortions performed in 2019 were similar to those reported the previous year. Three-quarters of the abortions were categorized as elective"

https://lozierinstitute.org/abortion-reporting-florida-2019/

Agree

But it is in fact abortion once conception has occurred.
Low dose and mini birth controls pills do work in this way, when a higher level of progestin is used.


These are called silent abortions.
Plenty of documentation.

Joel E. Goodnough, “Redux: Is the Oral Contraceptive Pill an Abortifacient,” Ethics & Medicine, p. 39, vol. 17:1, Spring 2001.
 

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"The allowable election error rate established by the Federal Election Commission guidelines is of 1 in 250,000 ballots (.0008%). We observed an error rate of 68.05%. This demonstrated a significant and fatal error in security and election integrity."

Ivan Pentchoukov on Twitter: ""The allowable election error rate established by the Federal Election Commission guidelines is of 1 in 250,000 ballots (.0008%). We observed an error rate of 68.05%. This demonstrated a significant and fatal error in security and election integrity."" / Twitter

Can we all agree and say that this is a smoking gun?
They have smoke, they have the guns, now they need to round up those who held the guns and put then on trial. See who all would be willing to rat out others.
 

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Agree



Low dose and mini birth controls pills do work in this way, when a higher level of progestin is used.


These are called silent abortions.
Plenty of documentation.

Joel E. Goodnough, “Redux: Is the Oral Contraceptive Pill an Abortifacient,” Ethics & Medicine, p. 39, vol. 17:1, Spring 2001.
I agreed. People have to be aware of what they are putting in their bodies.

There are healthier methods.
 
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I agreed. People have to be aware of what they are putting in their bodies.

There are healthier methods.
Yes the pill is also connected to infertility and other problems.

And people need to be consistent in their outrage.
 

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MI...TOTALLY ILLEGAL SCRUBS.....READ ENTRE FEED! "Likewise, all server security logs prior to 11:03 pm on November 4, 2020 are missing. This means that all security logs for the day after the election, on election day, and prior to election day are gone."

Massive coordinated criminality here folks. People are going to jail for this hopefully that corrupt Secretary of State.....

Ivan Pentchoukov (@IvanPentchoukov) / Twitter
 

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LOOKS LIKE WI GOING TO TRUMP! "Justices concluded that it’s up to each voter - not the county clerks or anyone else - to decide if and when they qualify as indefinitely confined."

That's something like 221,000 ballots gone for Biden. Far more than the margin of victory.

 

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