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SophieT

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I never said that anyone who is not in "full" support of Donal Trump is a fake Christian. I know people who voted for Trump, but don't even particularly like him as a person, yet could not support the liberal agenda of the Democrats. I'm also not implying that anyone who has ever voted for a Democrat is a fake Christian. What I'm focusing on is this year. I'm a member of multiple Christian forum sites and you would not believe all the people who "claim" to be Christians yet praise the liberal Democrats to high heaven. Such people seem to believe everything they hear from the liberal news media and even gloat about the Democrats winning the election, attack Christians who voted for Trump and demonstrate a very liberal mindset. I've also heard "professing" Christians on these various Christian forum sites say they are for abortion, gay marriage, defend Antifa and the radical side of BLM (defund the police, fires, looting, mayhem etc.. in various cities in the US) and believe socialism in America would be a good thing and are completely behind the 'great reset.' I am at a loss for words every time I think about just how far America has fallen! :(

I hope enough people read the following to understand that Christian forums are under attack by various groups. I know this for a fact, having been directed there and have seen for myself how atheists, satan worshipers and various other godless entities are being directed to join Christian forums, make it seem you are a Christian and then mock, attack, lie and cause as much havoc as you can.

Of course it is not my place or job to point out who they might be in this forum and they ARE in this forum because it is one of the forums mentioned as a particular good place to go because of the high traffic. However, when you sense you are dealing with a spirit that is totally contentious and mocking, it might be time to just to pray for them to be exposed.

Just remembering that not everyone who calls themself a Christian actually is a Christian would go a long way to stop even answering people who are obviously not here for any reason other than to cause division and bring down anything that is good by consistently providing evil as the alternative.

Some people are simply deceived, some hate Trump for whatever reason, but some are here to destroy. And some people are brainwashed and just can't help it.

I can provide proof of what I say but I am not going to provide a link in a post.
 

Truth7t7

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LOOKS LIKE WI GOING TO TRUMP! "Justices concluded that it’s up to each voter - not the county clerks or anyone else - to decide if and when they qualify as indefinitely confined."

That's something like 221,000 ballots gone for Biden. Far more than the margin of victory.

Real Good News, The Democrats House Of Cards Are Falling Quick!

We Will See What Reaction This Brings From The Left, In The Streets Of America Tonight?
 

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I think your point was clear initially, but the point TheIndianGirl was making was that a private corporate entity has the right to require their customers to wear masks. Giving you the benefit of the doubt for the motive of why businesses require mask wearing, they just want to show how good they are, it's still their right to require them just as it's our right to not do business with them.

At the end of the day, we have to decide if not wearing a mask is worth dying on a hill over. If someone is adamantly and passionately against wearing a mask which your husband clearly is, he should have refused to do business so that he's consistent with his principles. I agree with you that the store's requirement to wear mask inside but you can do business outside two feet away without a mask isn't an effective policy. It's all for nothing.

I just don't know what we are really losing by wearing a mask. Even if it only protects marginally (which experts say is actually significant), it's a small sacrifice. If they required rectum temperature checks only in addition to a 20 minute rapid test just to fill your car up with gas, then I can understand the outrage.
Now we have your opinion. Duly noted.

If someone is adamantly and passionately against wearing a mask which your husband clearly is, he should have refused to do business so that he's consistent with his principles.
Those are your words and not mine. You are way way out of line because you do not know why he will not wear a mask and he has a reason. You think you are somehow all knowing to tell my husband, whom you do not know and have never met, how he should conduct himself?

Having checked your profile, I see that you are following every purveyor of leftist garbage in this thread. LOL!
 

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Jesus said " You will know them by their fruit "
His words came to my mind as I read your post @mailmandan ...
Also , they were never of us comes to mind to...
Your heart is hurting , I can feel it reading your post , Jesus said " Bless those who mourn, for they shall be comforted" Matthew 5:4
I feel you mourning for your country brother...
...xox...
Amen!

Looks like that mourning is turning into joy, watching the developments today

Georgia picked Republican Electors, Wisconsin Supreme Court Ruling On Absentee Ballots

Trump/Pence 2021-2025
 

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Having checked your profile, I see that you are following every purveyor of leftist garbage in this thread. LOL!
Good investigative journalist work!

Birds of a feather, flock together!

If the shoe fits, (Wear It)!
 

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Just Watched Live, Nevada GOP Electors, Voted For Trump!

Overcoming this post #4666, Smiles!

Jesus Christ Is Lord!
 

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This is where I see many Christians contradict themselves though. When it comes to ectopic pregnancies they are for aborting the fetus because they assume it isn't viable. In reality, there is a possibility ectopic fetuses can still be viable, although rare. They state "killing the unborn is murder" but are for killing an ectopic fetus assuming it won't be viable but claim it isn't "murder". Unless they are God, how do they know if the ectopic pregnancy is viable or not? If you think abortion is murder, then aborting even in ectopic scenarios is potentially murder as we can't guarantee the fetus doesn't have a chance.
Again these are a small percent of cases.

If things go bad then both mom and child die. As you said the child rarely lives. But not rare for it to cause a lot of damage to the mother. If the mother dies then what good have you done? Both are dead at those early stages in life.

It must be rare because I do not hear of these babies surviving.

But as for me and you who do not carry a phd or Dr in front of our name, we have not dedicated years to studying the human body or years of experience with surgery. Do with that what you may because experts do often disagree. But in this sensitive of a case, the mom must decide based on the odds and knowledge of her specific needs.

Medical personal will typically go with the one with better odds. As to why back in March when hospitals saw spikes in covid. They were only giving ventilators to those they thought had better odds. The one's who didn't we're made comfortable, many died. Combat medics are taught to do the same. The wounded with the best odds are spent more time on. The one's with low odds would probably just get bandaged, shot with morphine, and prayed over while they go to others who have better odds of survival.

Rough mentality but it is what it is.
 

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I just read this: Wisconsin Supreme Court upholds Biden's win, rejects Trump lawsuit.

https://news.yahoo.com/wisconsin-supreme-court-upholds-bidens-175649915.html

I really don't have much hope at all for America after this election and expect to see only further decline in America ahead. :(
I checked this to be true, CV5 had it the otherway?

Wisconsin Supreme Court denied the 220,000 votes being excluded, electors vote for Biden?

Only thing I can reason with,is the conservative judge Hagedorn, allowed a fast track to SCOTUS on the decision?
 
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TDS 10th stage!

These President Trump hating liberals hate America and democracy, dont kid yourself, they would give their firstborn to see Biden victory,(Evil)
You originally American?
 

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I checked this to be true, CV5 had it the otherway?

Wisconsin Supreme Court denied the 220,000 votes being excluded, electors vote for Biden?

Only thing I can reason with,is the conservative judge Hagedorn, allowed a fast track to SCOTUS on the decision?
They denied it because they said it was too late to challenge it. Where is the law in that?

But they are allowing some to be thrown out on a case by case decision.

"the court held that Wisconsin election officials were in error to suggest that voters could claim the status of “indefinitely confined” based on COVID-19. The majority decision in that case, Jefferson v. Dane County, also held that if voters falsely claimed they were indefinitely confined “their ballots would not count.” However, the court said a case-by-case determination must be made before tossing ballots."
 
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Can it be true...?
BREAKING! Nevada GOP ELECTORS Cast Their Votes for President Trump!!
 

Truth7t7

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They denied it because they said it was too late to challenge it. Where is the law in that?

But they are allowing some to be thrown out on a case by case decision.

"the court held that Wisconsin election officials were in error to suggest that voters could claim the status of “indefinitely confined” based on COVID-19. The majority decision in that case, Jefferson v. Dane County, also held that if voters falsely claimed they were indefinitely confined “their ballots would not count.” However, the court said a case-by-case determination must be made before tossing ballots."
I agree, it appears to he a flawed decision, and supposedly conservative Justice Hagedorn jumped in bed with the treasonous liberals on this one?

To late to challenge, Case by Case basis?

This is the reason SCOTUS reverses 70%+ of the cases they hear
 

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I agree, it appears to he a flawed decision, and supposedly conservative Justice Hagedorn jumped in bed with the treasonous liberals on this one?

To late to challenge, Case by Case basis?

This is the reason SCOTUS reverses 70%+ of the cases they hear
It is crazy that so many are saying why did he wait until after the election. You need proof of wrong doing to bring it up in court.
 
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Now we have your opinion. Duly noted.



Those are your words and not mine. You are way way out of line because you do not know why he will not wear a mask and he has a reason. You think you are somehow all knowing to tell my husband, whom you do not know and have never met, how he should conduct himself?

Having checked your profile, I see that you are following every purveyor of leftist garbage in this thread. LOL!
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Thanks for confirmation ! Your brave as I find Smoke's pablum entirely too long winded to even get past the first paragraph or two before falling asleep and smacking my forehead on the keyboard...
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Again these are a small percent of cases.

If things go bad then both mom and child die. As you said the child rarely lives. But not rare for it to cause a lot of damage to the mother. If the mother dies then what good have you done? Both are dead at those early stages in life.

It must be rare because I do not hear of these babies surviving.

But as for me and you who do not carry a phd or Dr in front of our name, we have not dedicated years to studying the human body or years of experience with surgery. Do with that what you may because experts do often disagree. But in this sensitive of a case, the mom must decide based on the odds and knowledge of her specific needs.

Medical personal will typically go with the one with better odds. As to why back in March when hospitals saw spikes in covid. They were only giving ventilators to those they thought had better odds. The one's who didn't we're made comfortable, many died. Combat medics are taught to do the same. The wounded with the best odds are spent more time on. The one's with low odds would probably just get bandaged, shot with morphine, and prayed over while they go to others who have better odds of survival.

Rough mentality but it is what it is.
I understand the logic in everything you're saying... especially bringing up the fact most of us aren't doctors and we should listen to them when it comes to their recommendation (LIKE WEARING MASKS lol). My issue isn't with preserving the mother's life, it's with Christians wanting to label every abortion as "murder" regardless of context. The argument I keep hearing is that "We can't play God. We don't have the right to take an innocent baby's life. By aborting, you are murdering." Yet, assuming an ectopic pregnancy is not viable is perfectly okay and not treated with the same standard... I've seen them call raped victims who chose to abort their baby a "murderer". I'm against that.
 

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I understand the logic in everything you're saying... especially bringing up the fact most of us aren't doctors and we should listen to them when it comes to their recommendation (LIKE WEARING MASKS lol). My issue isn't with preserving the mother's life, it's with Christians wanting to label every abortion as "murder" regardless of context. The argument I keep hearing is that "We can't play God. We don't have the right to take an innocent baby's life. By aborting, you are murdering." Yet, assuming an ectopic pregnancy is not viable is perfectly okay and not treated with the same standard... I've seen them call raped victims who chose to abort their baby a "murderer". I'm against that.
I can begin to see why you call yourself 'Smoke'. This entire presentation regarding an ectopic pregnancy is nothing but smoke and has absolutely nothing to do with the abortion issue wherein a woman is able to legally receive an abortion for any reason including I don't like redheads and what if the baby has red hair?

Stick to the actual issue and show some respect instead of conjuring ridiculous arguments that have no basis and are only inserted by you in an effort to appear to be somehow fighting for the underdog. The underdog is the fetus that is discarded like mice droppings and not about special cases to end a pregnancy that is very dangerous and not able to come to term.

You present a situation that is life threatening as if it were the norm.

Apparently you do not have an actual case to present and just wish to waste everyone's time by throwing smoke and trying to sound knowledgeable.
 

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It is crazy that so many are saying why did he wait until after the election. You need proof of wrong doing to bring it up in court.
I Agree

Why did AG Barr remain silent?

he didnt want to show his hand on investigation, nor interfere with the election, he knows there's a back up plan to Congress and Scotus

I believe a good move, all the dirt coming out now, in support of the back of plan if Congress and Scotus dont come through, public opinion in the majority is crying criminal fraud?

Invoking the 2018 Executive Order on Foreign Interference, as Dominon was sending the American vote counts around the world, call for a new election.

Biden isnt going to be inaugurated on January 20th, I believe civil war is more likely before that happens,time will tell?
 

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I Agree

Why did AG Barr remain silent, he didnt wanted to the hand on investigation, nor interfere with the election

I believe a good move, all the dirt coming out now, in support of the back of plan if Congress and Scotus dont come through?

Invoking the 2018 Executive Order on Foreign Interference, as Dominon was sending the American vote counts around the world

Biden isnt going to be inaugurated on January 20th, I believe civil war is more likely before that happens,time will tell?
The whole thing is the farce of the century.
 

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The whole thing is the farce of the century.
The Russia Hoax, Trump Impeachment, and this Election?

Something Sci-Fi Conspiracy Novelist And Screen Writers Wouldn't Believe, Or Dream About

This Is Beyond Imagination!
 
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