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Moses_Young

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America hating radical leftist ideology and agenda. Obama had the same ideology and agenda.

It may have failed everyone's attention but Trump has done zero gun grabbing. ABSOLUTELY ZERO.
This makes him enemy number one of the globalists & their America destroying agenda.
And he kept referring to the virus being the worst since 1917. The 1917 virus is Communism! And it's infecting America in 2020.
 

iamsoandso

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But it isn't a hoax? And are you confident in the death tallies? I believe China is responsible for Covid 19. The hoax is the medias and liberals weaponization of the narrative. Same thing when we have a mass shooting, within minutes they are calling for gun control.

But if you go down the list of Governors I gave you and look up the Republican Governors state by state you'll find that they are mitigating C-19 in their states as if their numbers are real. It would be peachy if we could say it's the left but then that would mean that when you look up the rights states you would find that those Governors were saying in the media "it's a hoax" and that they wont do nothing because of it and their case counts would be low.

That's not what you will find for instance in Texas where it's Republican Governor is ordering refrigerator trucks to put their dead in. When you look at Abbots comments over the last year he has always treated C-19 as if it is real. He shut down all non essential businesses and reopened in phases determined by case numbers. He gave orders for all counties with more than 20 active cases to have mask mandates in place.

If you go down the list of the other Republican Governors in the US and look at what they are doing and have done you will see they are treating C-19 as if it is real. Trump set together a task force and we all watched it day after day on TV when they explained where they would get n95 mask,respirators ect.

You keep saying it's leftist,liberals,Dems. ect. but if you look at who's in charge and who is doing what you will realize that none of the Republican Governors nor the President are pretending this is a hoax. If this was a hoax then none of the Rep. Governors would be doing the things they are in their states to protect their citizens from C-19 but if they are then that can only mean that they do not agree it is a hoax. That would also mean that they do not think that this is just created by the media,leftist Dems. and that they do not agree with what you are thinking is a hoax.
 

Roughsoul1991

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America hating radical leftist ideology and agenda. Obama had the same ideology and agenda.

It may have failed everyone's attention but Trump has done zero gun grabbing. ABSOLUTELY ZERO.
This makes him enemy number one of the globalists & their America destroying agenda.
Sure didn't escape my attention. If Biden wins, you better find a undisclosed location to hide your guns.
 

iamsoandso

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You failed to mention that it is the Democrat mayors and governors who are singled out as the ones who have amped up Covid hysteria to the redline. And their Constitution breaking draconian ordinances are by far the worst.

I live in a red state(Texas) where we have a million cases according to our Republican Governor and twenty thousand dead so I don't know much about you folks blue Mayors.
 

cv5

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But if you go down the list of Governors I gave you and look up the Republican Governors state by state you'll find that they are mitigating C-19 in their states as if their numbers are real. It would be peachy if we could say it's the left but then that would mean that when you look up the rights states you would find that those Governors were saying in the media "it's a hoax" and that they wont do nothing because of it and their case counts would be low.

That's not what you will find for instance in Texas where it's Republican Governor is ordering refrigerator trucks to put their dead in. When you look at Abbots comments over the last year he has always treated C-19 as if it is real. He shut down all non essential businesses and reopened in phases determined by case numbers. He gave orders for all counties with more than 20 active cases to have mask mandates in place.

If you go down the list of the other Republican Governors in the US and look at what they are doing and have done you will see they are treating C-19 as if it is real. Trump set together a task force and we all watched it day after day on TV when they explained where they would get n95 mask,respirators ect.

You keep saying it's leftist,liberals,Dems. ect. but if you look at who's in charge and who is doing what you will realize that none of the Republican Governors nor the President are pretending this is a hoax. If this was a hoax then none of the Rep. Governors would be doing the things they are in their states to protect their citizens from C-19 but if they are then that can only mean that they do not agree it is a hoax. That would also mean that they do not think that this is just created by the media,leftist Dems. and that they do not agree with what you are thinking is a hoax.
The numbers are not particularly accurate but neither are they a hoax. The hoax is the hysteria. The numbers are little different than a typical flu outbreak in the winter. When the winter flu is going around pretty well everyone gets it......same goes for COVID. Covid is more virulent and more fatal to the elderly. But it is still merely a coronavirus (and nothing compared to the 1918 flu bug) and it is not the end of the world like the commie Democrats would have us think.
 

cv5

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I live in a red state(Texas) where we have a million cases according to our Republican Governor and twenty thousand dead so I don't know much about you folks blue Mayors.
My friend I do not obsess over COVID. In fact I really don't care much about COVID it will pass. Once herd immunity is reached we shall carry on as we always have.
 

Roughsoul1991

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But if you go down the list of Governors I gave you and look up the Republican Governors state by state you'll find that they are mitigating C-19 in their states as if their numbers are real. It would be peachy if we could say it's the left but then that would mean that when you look up the rights states you would find that those Governors were saying in the media "it's a hoax" and that they wont do nothing because of it and their case counts would be low.

That's not what you will find for instance in Texas where it's Republican Governor is ordering refrigerator trucks to put their dead in. When you look at Abbots comments over the last year he has always treated C-19 as if it is real. He shut down all non essential businesses and reopened in phases determined by case numbers. He gave orders for all counties with more than 20 active cases to have mask mandates in place.

If you go down the list of the other Republican Governors in the US and look at what they are doing and have done you will see they are treating C-19 as if it is real. Trump set together a task force and we all watched it day after day on TV when they explained where they would get n95 mask,respirators ect.

You keep saying it's leftist,liberals,Dems. ect. but if you look at who's in charge and who is doing what you will realize that none of the Republican Governors nor the President are pretending this is a hoax. If this was a hoax then none of the Rep. Governors would be doing the things they are in their states to protect their citizens from C-19 but if they are then that can only mean that they do not agree it is a hoax. That would also mean that they do not think that this is just created by the media,leftist Dems. and that they do not agree with what you are thinking is a hoax.
I think we are in a misunderstanding. Covid 19 is not a hoax.
Covid numbers going up also depends on good testing. Elon Musk just tweeted the other week about his test being both positive and negative at the same time.

Accurate death counts depend on hospital integrity and not money grabs for listing covid deaths. None of that has been investigated.

The hysteria of the left is unwarranted and the media narrative is constant hysteria. Then add the illogical attempts by Democratic ran cities or states to contain the virus has been more totalitarian than logical.
 

Roughsoul1991

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My friend I do not obsess over COVID. In fact I really don't care much about COVID it will pass. Once herd immunity is reached we shall carry on as we always have.
God is in control.
 

iamsoandso

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The numbers are not particularly accurate but neither are they a hoax. The hoax is the hysteria. The numbers are little different than a typical flu outbreak in the winter. When the winter flu is going around pretty well everyone gets it......same goes for COVID. Covid is more virulent and more fatal to the elderly. But it is still merely a coronavirus (and nothing compared to the 1918 flu bug) and it is not the end of the world like the commie Democrats would have us think.

You think my Republican Governor Greg Abbott would misrepresent the numbers? About once a week he has a news update telling us what he's doing to keep from having to shut the businesses back down. Maybe your lucky but I have lost count of my family members who have caught C-19 some with very little symptoms but two who have internal organ damage that will never heal.
 

iamsoandso

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I think we are in a misunderstanding. Covid 19 is not a hoax.
Covid numbers going up also depends on good testing. Elon Musk just tweeted the other week about his test being both positive and negative at the same time.

Accurate death counts depend on hospital integrity and not money grabs for listing covid deaths. None of that has been investigated.

The hysteria of the left is unwarranted and the media narrative is constant hysteria. Then add the illogical attempts by Democratic ran cities or states to contain the virus has been more totalitarian than logical.

Again I live in a RED state(Texas) and so our Republican Governor is who is providing us with our numbers and advice as to C-19 not the blue guys.
 

cv5

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You think my Republican Governor Greg Abbott would misrepresent the numbers? About once a week he has a news update telling us what he's doing to keep from having to shut the businesses back down. Maybe your lucky but I have lost count of my family members who have caught C-19 some with very little symptoms but two who have internal organ damage that will never heal.
I'll tell you a little story. I caught something in the hospital while I was nursing my elderly father back in Feb 2017. I was incredibly sick and for about FOUR YEARS nonstop. I am still not 100% and it was by far the worst thing that has ever happened to me. This is of course supposedly before COVID.

There is permanent damage that I don't want to elaborate on.
The idiotic doctors never did give me a proper diagnosis and in fact they ignored my month after month after month pleading for relief and treatment.

There are bugs going around that are certainly as bad as COVID (or worse) but nobody's talking about them.

COVID hysteria is a hoax buddy. I can tell you from personal experience. People need to quit being panicked and get on with their lives.
 

Roughsoul1991

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Again I live in a RED state(Texas) and so our Republican Governor is who is providing us with our numbers and advice as to C-19 not the blue guys.
And where does he get his numbers?

As for advice is it equivalent to California or you must wear a mask in your own home?
 
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The numbers are not particularly accurate but neither are they a hoax. The hoax is the hysteria. The numbers are little different than a typical flu outbreak in the winter. When the winter flu is going around pretty well everyone gets it......same goes for COVID. Covid is more virulent and more fatal to the elderly. But it is still merely a coronavirus (and nothing compared to the 1918 flu bug) and it is not the end of the world like the commie Democrats would have us think.
Another completely inaccurate post.

The Spanish flu was an H1N1 virus .. and no not everyone gets the seasonal flu

another laughable statement... nothing compared to 1918... do you even know why the flu of 1918 had such a high death toll?
 
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EleventhHour

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You think my Republican Governor Greg Abbott would misrepresent the numbers? About once a week he has a news update telling us what he's doing to keep from having to shut the businesses back down. Maybe your lucky but I have lost count of my family members who have caught C-19 some with very little symptoms but two who have internal organ damage that will never heal.
You are wasting you time with people who cannot fathom things on a more complex level, hence the need for the conspiratorial view ..... they live a one dimensional world... the one dimension they know is >>> Hoax.
 

cv5

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And where does he get his numbers?

As for advice is it equivalent to California or you must wear a mask in your own home?
Recall Newsom. Get a petition and get rid of the idiot. He is an hypocrite and a snake oil selling liar. He does not belong to the office.
 
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Covid numbers going up also depends on good testing.
This is not true, a study of the data in Ontario if you look it up, demonstrates number went down even when there was a lot of testing.

Once again an over simplification
 
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