Will You Still Hate Donald Trump ?

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So unfettered illegal immigration is in our best interest? That issue alone proves he doesn't have your best interest at heart. He just tugged on your heart strings and played you like a fiddle.
I said "what he thought".
 
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Another thing. Why isn't the peace loving passive non violent left condemning all this protester violence?
You know, those people that tell us violence and war is never the answer.
Funny how when it seems to fit their agenda the rules change. Yet another indication how far from God these people are.
One day someone here (not me) should make a list of how many things they support and do that are in direct contradiction and rebellion to Gods commands, statutes, and precepts laws.
It's another indication of how the left is exactly like an abuser a wife beater and a criminal.
 
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:pI hope uncle Don stays true to what he said to us about uncle sam(talking about his taxes)
He did say he would reveal them after the SO CALLED audit.

Why do I get the feeling he's not worried about that.

#holdinghisfeettothefire
 
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:pI hope uncle Don stays true to what he said to us about uncle sam(talking about his taxes)
He did say he would reveal them after the SO CALLED audit.

Why do I get the feeling he's not worried about that.

#holdinghisfeettothefire
You've gotten to used to Obama. Now, you expect all presidents to lie.

This man tells the truth. And, he delivers.
 
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ROSSELLA

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If he delivers on many of his intentions ? Keeping jobs in America .. re-building the American infra-structure .. healthcare overhaul ..protect social security for those who paid for it .. revamping adverse effect trade deals .. co-operating with other countries (Russia .. instead of isolating oneself) against ISIS .. stricter immigration laws. Exactly what is it that Trump hopes to accomplish that has the liberals so up in arms against him ? I won't be "debating" on this thread. I'm just curious why liberals are so against his stated intentions as POTUS ?
Well I don't hate Trump. I hate a lot of the things he does and says, and the things he stands for. But I don't hate him. If Trump does perform well as a President and keeps a lot of jobs in America, rebuilds infrastructure, protect Social Security, etc., that will definitely improve my opinion of him. However, while I will pray for him to make wise decisions, there is a lot about him that disgusts me.
He repeatedly disrespects women while claiming to respect them. Women don't even have the same constitutional rights as men because every time the Equal Rights Amendment comes up, those in charge are more interested in not changing the Constitution than protecting women. I don't feel safe with a man like Trump being able to make decisions regarding the passing of laws that protect women's rights.
Trump uses incredibly harsh language towards illegal immigrants. To some degree, immigration does need to be limited. But those making and enforcing the laws should never forget that many illegal immigrants (maybe even most) didn't come here illegally for the fun of it. They did so because the places they used to live in were terrible and for one reason or another, they couldn't come here legally. There needs to be some compassion in dealing with these people and Trump hasn't demonstrated that.
Trump has claimed that he thinks police should be able to randomly search "Muslim" neighborhoods for signs of terrorists. This violates the Constitutional rights of Muslim Americans, increases the risk of police brutality against people based on race and religion, and is reminiscent of the Gestappo.
Trump changes his mind on people and organizations depending on whether or not they help/support him, he seems unable to deal with criticism, and his cabinet choices are less than scrupulous people (despite him saying he'd weed out the corruption in the Government).
If Trump changed his views and actions to ones that honored God, I would change my opinion on him. But he has a lot of work to do. Undoubtedly God is capable of changing Trump and nothing can happen that God doesn't allow. But Trump needs to want to change and I don't know that he does.
 
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Well I don't hate Trump. I hate a lot of the things he does and says, and the things he stands for. But I don't hate him. If Trump does perform well as a President and keeps a lot of jobs in America, rebuilds infrastructure, protect Social Security, etc., that will definitely improve my opinion of him. However, while I will pray for him to make wise decisions, there is a lot about him that disgusts me.
He repeatedly disrespects women while claiming to respect them. Women don't even have the same constitutional rights as men because every time the Equal Rights Amendment comes up, those in charge are more interested in not changing the Constitution than protecting women. I don't feel safe with a man like Trump being able to make decisions regarding the passing of laws that protect women's rights.
Trump uses incredibly harsh language towards illegal immigrants. To some degree, immigration does need to be limited. But those making and enforcing the laws should never forget that many illegal immigrants (maybe even most) didn't come here illegally for the fun of it. They did so because the places they used to live in were terrible and for one reason or another, they couldn't come here legally. There needs to be some compassion in dealing with these people and Trump hasn't demonstrated that.
Trump has claimed that he thinks police should be able to randomly search "Muslim" neighborhoods for signs of terrorists. This violates the Constitutional rights of Muslim Americans, increases the risk of police brutality against people based on race and religion, and is reminiscent of the Gestappo.
Trump changes his mind on people and organizations depending on whether or not they help/support him, he seems unable to deal with criticism, and his cabinet choices are less than scrupulous people (despite him saying he'd weed out the corruption in the Government).
If Trump changed his views and actions to ones that honored God, I would change my opinion on him. But he has a lot of work to do. Undoubtedly God is capable of changing Trump and nothing can happen that God doesn't allow. But Trump needs to want to change and I don't know that he does.
Interesting. He might feel the same way about you.
 

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Well I don't hate Trump. I hate a lot of the things he does and says, and the things he stands for. But I don't hate him. If Trump does perform well as a President and keeps a lot of jobs in America, rebuilds infrastructure, protect Social Security, etc., that will definitely improve my opinion of him. However, while I will pray for him to make wise decisions, there is a lot about him that disgusts me.
He repeatedly disrespects women while claiming to respect them. Women don't even have the same constitutional rights as men because every time the Equal Rights Amendment comes up, those in charge are more interested in not changing the Constitution than protecting women.


1. Exactly WHICH constitutional rights do women not have?

Please list them.







 

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This comment is fine for what it is..........but.........it is not in keeping with your other comment.........the one I responded to.

You said:

I know of zero middle class earners, let alone low income class earners that can afford a $200,000.00 mortgage.

Now you say:

I wouldn't consider a $200,000.00 mortgage as beyond the limits for the middle-class earners, although it could be considered high .. but I would think it both unreasonable and unwise for low-income families for obvious reasons.


I don't disagree that Obama was playing games...........I'm just wondering what you consider the Middle Class to be? While Two Hundred Thousand Dollars is a small fortune to me, for a whole bunch of Americans, it is not unreasonable at all, and even quite cheap when applied to the value of a home.

Cars/Trucks can easily exceed Forty to Fifty Thousand Dollars, and folks buy them daily.......Shoot, a well furnished Double Wide can run between Seventy Five and a Hundred Thousand dollars these days...... :)

I think Obama put as many "land mines" as possible in Trump's path before he left Office. As with other issues, this one is most important to those it most effects in my opinion.



I wouldn't consider a $200,000.00 mortgage as beyond the limits for the middle-class earners, although it could be considered high .. but I would think it both unreasonable and unwise for low-income families for obvious reasons. And that's the group the anti-Trump media are targeting with this "news" ... "making life harder for those with the least". Those no good Republicans and Donald Trump picking on the little people again :rolleyes:. Here's the kicker tho ... Obama didn't "see fit" to lower the mortgage insurance cost until one week ago ... seven days before he exists. Wonder why he didn't do this eight years ago ... all that wasted time ? :confused: Obama's enjoying himself trying to paint Trump as the antithesis of himself. But his actions reek of hypocrisy, dishonesty and deception. And arrogance.
 

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Trump's press secretary complaining about the media's reporting of the size of the inauguration crowds was embarrassing and petty. Are we going to have to put up with four years of petty bickering? Aren't there more important things to focus on than Trump's ego? Does anybody really care about the size of the inauguration crowd??? Trump and his people need to focus more on governing and less on petty bickering with the media.
 

maxwel

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Trump's press secretary complaining about the media's reporting of the size of the inauguration crowds was embarrassing and petty. Are we going to have to put up with four years of petty bickering? Aren't there more important things to focus on than Trump's ego? Does anybody really care about the size of the inauguration crowd??? Trump and his people need to focus more on governing and less on petty bickering with the media.
I agree; we should stop the petty bickering.

As you stated yourself, Spicer was responding to something THE MEDIA BROUGHT UP.



Neither Trump nor his press secretary started that dialogue.

Therefore, instead of complaining here, please write the media and tell THEM to stop bickering.
 

p_rehbein

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I refused to attend his Party........... :)

What? No, I was not invited............

If invited, I will not attend, if I attend, i will not enjoy myself, if I enjoy myself, I will not admit it.........

I refuse to attend Parties that I am not invited to........

Tom called........he said "bickering" is not his last name..........Petty is though......what a heartbreaker he can be

:)


I agree; we should stop the petty bickering.

As you stated yourself, Spicer was responding to something THE MEDIA BROUGHT UP.



Neither Trump nor his press secretary started that dialogue.

Therefore, instead of complaining here, please write the media and tell THEM to stop bickering.
 

skipp

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I agree; we should stop the petty bickering.

As you stated yourself, Spicer was responding to something THE MEDIA BROUGHT UP.



Neither Trump nor his press secretary started that dialogue.

Therefore, instead of complaining here, please write the media and tell THEM to stop bickering.
I hope you enjoy four years of him spending his time and energy feuding with the media then rather than focusing on governing the country. You can't swat every fly. "He started it!" "No, he started it!" sounds like something out of grade school. It makes him look overly sensitive and thin skinned to go into a tizzy over nonsense like this. A White House press conference should be about vital matters important to our nation, not whining because somebody in the media said something mean.
 
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I hope you enjoy four years of him spending his time and energy feuding with the media then rather than focusing on governing the country.
Gotta love generalized statements that aren't close to accurate, thanks for another one. :)

He's focused on the government and country, already saving jobs and making other decisions that will contribute to the success of the US so your comment is unfounded while parroting liberal rhetoric. That, and he's told the MSM, which is nothing more than fake news and propaganda, to buzz off. I like it.
 

maxwel

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I hope you enjoy four years of him spending his time and energy feuding with the media then rather than focusing on governing the country. You can't swat every fly. "He started it!" "No, he started it!" sounds like something out of grade school. It makes him look overly sensitive and thin skinned to go into a tizzy over nonsense like this. A White House press conference should be about vital matters important to our nation, not whining because somebody in the media said something mean.
Skipp,

You complained about Trump's Press Secretary for bickering.

I pointed out that he was only RESPONDING to issues raised by the press.


That is a Press Secretary's JOB... to respond to issues raised by the press.

The Press Secretary, and the Communications Team, DO IN FACT have the SPECIFIC JOB of swatting every fly.



Yes, this is what they do.
For every president... this is what they do.
Whenever people made complaints about Obama, his press secretary would respond.
This is what Press Secretaries do.



I'm sorry if you don't enjoy it.
But this is what all press secretaries do.
 

skipp

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Gotta love generalized statements that aren't close to accurate, thanks for another one. :)

He's focused on the government and country, already saving jobs and making other decisions that will contribute to the success of the US so your comment is unfounded while parroting liberal rhetoric. That, and he's told the MSM, which is nothing more than fake news and propaganda, to buzz off. I like it.
It wasn't liberal rhetoric I was employing. This may come as a shock to you but not every conservative bows at the throne of Trump. Throwing out "liberal!" accusations every time somebody is the least bit critical of Trump is weak. My biggest concern is that Trump will make a hash of things and completely wreck the reputation of the conservative movement in America. There's a lot of good policies but he needs to be dignified and presidential and stop it with the celebrity reality show persona. It's okay to get into petty squabbles when you are a reality show star but that's not going to fly as president. I'm not going to applaud everything Trump does just because I'm a conservative.
 

maxwel

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It wasn't liberal rhetoric I was employing. This may come as a shock to you but not every conservative bows at the throne of Trump. Throwing out "liberal!" accusations every time somebody is the least bit critical of Trump is weak. My biggest concern is that Trump will make a hash of things and completely wreck the reputation of the conservative movement in America. There's a lot of good policies but he needs to be dignified and presidential and stop it with the celebrity reality show persona. It's okay to get into petty squabbles when you are a reality show star but that's not going to fly as president. I'm not going to applaud everything Trump does just because I'm a conservative.
I hate to tell you this, but the conservative movement was already wrecked in America.

That's how Obama got elected for 8 years.
 

skipp

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Skipp,

You complained about Trump's Press Secretary for bickering.

I pointed out that he was only RESPONDING to issues raised by the press.


That is a Press Secretary's JOB... to respond to issues raised by the press.

The Press Secretary, and the Communications Team, DO IN FACT have the SPECIFIC JOB of swatting every fly.



Yes, this is what they do.
For every president... this is what they do.
Whenever people made complaints about Obama, his press secretary would respond.
This is what Press Secretaries do.



I'm sorry if you don't enjoy it.
But this is what all press secretaries do.
Yes, they respond to issues raised by the press but it's usually IMPORTANT issues! The size of Trump's inauguration crowd IS NOT IMPORTANT. IT DOES NOT AFFECT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. It's a completely meaningless issue. Instead it makes Trump look overly sensitive that he would make such a big deal addressing it.
 

maxwel

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Yes, they respond to issues raised by the press but it's usually IMPORTANT issues! The size of Trump's inauguration crowd IS NOT IMPORTANT. IT DOES NOT AFFECT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. It's a completely meaningless issue. Instead it makes Trump look overly sensitive that he would make such a big deal addressing it.
A word like "important" is subjective.

Something unimportant to YOU may be important to some other TELEVISION VIEWER.

Apparently this issue was IMPORTANT enough to the NEWS NETWORKS that they MADE AN ISSUE OF IT.



Apparently some issues that are not important to YOU are important to the MEDIA... because they waste expensive TV time on them.


If you think some issue isn't important... PLEASE CONTACT THE NEWS NETWORK WHICH BROUGHT IT UP.
 
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Interesting to watch the emotional immature come of age.