Woman Pastor Explains Her Abortion

[Tommy379]

When did females become pastors, and why would the congregation allow one to remain if they commit baby murder?

 

[Utah]

No one is spewing hatred. I think that is unfair to state about the posters in this thread. We strongly disagreed with the position this woman publicly took and have judged her words to be unfit speech for a minister of Christ. So yes, some of our responses were strong. There is a difference though between hate and judgement. Not one of us have wished harm on her or claimed that she was irredeemable. Some of us have even stated that we understand that she was in a terrible position during her pregnancy and faced with tough choices. Our criticisms have focused on the minister rather than the woman. I can feel great pity on the woman in her personal life, but none for the minister who defends abortion and encourages the government to keep late term abortion on the books.

Christians are called to be a light to the world and salt of the earth. If we become afraid to take a stand for mortality and just excuse every sin, we fail God in the purpose he ordained for us. It is far easier to take on the role of nice person and take the position that we must accept everything that a person does or says. The secular world is never going to get rid of legalized abortion or any other practice that violates God's commands. It remains to the Christians to be that voice in society and enlighten the minds of others. How can we accomplish this if our own " ministers" urge the government to keep abortion legal?

Dude loses what little mind he has left when cops kill a dangerous perpetrator but he's a real cool hipster when it comes to murdering unborn children. Then he tops off his indignity by calling us hateful liars. Durp durp durp.

 

[Utah]

When did females become pastors, and why would the congregation allow one to remain if they commit baby murder?

The liberal swine who infiltrated that congregation will probably erect a statue of their newfound beloved princess.

 

[Sirk]

Dude loses what little mind he has left when cops kill a dangerous perpetrator but he's a real cool hipster when it comes to murdering unborn children. Then he tops off his indignity by calling us hateful liars. Durp durp durp.

Calling what someone else says hate speech is just a way the weak minded cope with differing points of view. I've said this before and I'll say it again, it has more in common with the way the criminal mind processes information than a biblical worldview of self and others.

 

[Utah]

Calling what someone else says hate speech is just a way the weak minded cope with differing points of view. I've said this before and I'll say it again, it has more in common with the way the criminal mind processes information than a biblical worldview of self and others.

Amen to this. Your post should be a CC sticky.

 

[Smoke]

Not necessarily true. Stop with your hyperboles. And quit saying I'm lying all the time because I'm not lying at all; I'm speaking from the heart but the problem is you don't like what I say. Put me on ignore, Scarecrow.

I don't think it's hyperbolic of Dude to say that many times when the mother dies, the baby dies as well.

Ectopic pregnancies are a pretty common complication where if the woman doesn't "murder" the unborn child, the mother suffer complications and potentially die. There is technically a tiny chance the unborn could be carried to fruition, but it is almost certainly a death sentence.

We may not agree with the stance of "If the mother dies, the unborn dies." but it's a pragmatic point that I can understand. Could God perform a miracle on ectopic/tubal pregnancies? Absolutely... but when over 95% of them do not produce fruitful children, do we put women's lives at severe risk and allow the unborn child to grow outside the uterus in hopes God performs a miracle?

I am not sure if this woman had an ectopic pregnancy, but nevertheless, her doctors informed her of her unborn child's eminent death and her potential dangers of carrying to full term. Thankfully, I'm not God. I don't know her heart, I don't know how wrong her decision was or if God willed her to the decision He did. His ways aren't our ways or His thoughts our thoughts. I save condemnation for Him as there is more to this story that I don't know.

 

[notuptome]

When did females become pastors, and why would the congregation allow one to remain if they commit baby murder?

Teachers that itch the ears of those who will not to endure sound doctrine.

2Ti 4:3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;

For the cause of Christ
Roger

 

[notuptome]

Kinda like you "Christians" who spew hatred with every breath....gotcha

Since you are a shared account which one is the one making these accusations?

Kind of a jaded outlook when everybody but you is hate spewing with every breath.

Where is the virtue in such a worldly attitude?

Php 4:8 Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

 

[Dude653]

The liberal swine who infiltrated that congregation will probably erect a statue of their newfound beloved princess.

Now whos using hyperbole? You're ridiculous. I'm pretty sure nobody is praising her for what she did. You keep going back to this idea that people are championing what she did. Stop lying. The baby was going to die anyway and there was a good chance the mother would die as well. She did what she felt like she had to do... I'm sure if he's not proud of it

 

[Utah]

Now whos using hyperbole? You're ridiculous. I'm pretty sure nobody is praising her for what she did. You keep going back to this idea that people are championing what she did. Stop lying. The baby was going to die anyway and there was a good chance the mother would die as well. She did what she felt like she had to do... I'm sure if he's not proud of it

I'm sorry; did you say something?

 

[Dude653]

I'm sorry; did you say something?

Yeah....I said you're lying...agsin

 

[Susanna]

Ok, break it up, guys, the rest of us on here is not very interested in your little forum war.

 

[Socreta93]

Haha for real, we sometimes forget what we are really arguing about.

Ok, break it up, guys, the rest of us on here is not very interested in your little forum war.

 

[Sirk]

Haha for real, we sometimes forget what we are really arguing about.

Sometimes? It's the human way. Why do you think so many marriages fail?

 

[Tommy379]

Sometimes? It's the human way. Why do you think so many marriages fail?

Marriages fail over no good reasons.

 

[Utah]

Yeah....I said you're lying...agsin

What's agsin mean?

 

[Utah]

Ok, break it up, guys, the rest of us on here is not very interested in your little forum war.

If you notice, he's been trolling me. He said he was going to put me on ignore and I asked him to do so but instead he's harassing me and hurting my feelings. He's a bad man.

 

[Tommy379]

What? .

 

[Dude653]

If you notice, he's been trolling me. He said he was going to put me on ignore and I asked him to do so but instead he's harassing me and hurting my feelings. He's a bad man.

That's because you keep saying dumb stuff

 

[Utah]

That's because you keep saying dumb stuff

Leave me alone, you bad man. I'm going to have nightmares because of you. I can see it now, you're going to try to suck my brains out like victims of late term abortions. Now I can't go to sleep!!!!