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V838 Monocerotis, a variable star accompanied by a light echo, has been erroneously portrayed as an approaching planet or brown dwarf on a collision course with Earth.[1]
Claims Earth's imminent collision or near miss with a giant planetoid
Related scientific disciplines Astronomy, archaeology
Year proposed 1995
Original proponents Nancy Lieder
Subsequent proponents Marshall Masters, Jaysen Rand, Pana Wave, David Meade, Terral Croft, Paul Begley, Matt Rogers

Pseudoscientific concepts

Pseudoscience consists of statements, beliefs, or practices that claim to be both scientific and factual but are incompatible with the scientific method.[1][Note 1] Pseudoscience is often characterized by contradictory, exaggerated or unfalsifiable claims; reliance on confirmation bias rather than rigorous attempts at refutation; lack of openness to evaluation by other experts; absence of systematic practices when developing hypotheses; and continued adherence long after the pseudoscientific hypotheses have been experimentally discredited
I have posted observed events concerning meteors and concerning earthquakes. That is not pseudo science.
 
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This is what znp believes. he believes some crazy woman talks to extraterrestrials from the zeta reticuli star system through an implant in her brain.

The Nibiru cataclysm is a supposed disastrous encounter between Earth and a large planetary object (either a collision or a near-miss) that certain groups believed would take place in the early 21st century. Believers in this doomsday event usually refer to this object as Nibiru or Planet X. The idea was first put forward in 1995 by Nancy Lieder,[2][3] founder of the website ZetaTalk. Lieder claims she is a contactee with the ability to receive messages from extraterrestrials from the Zeta Reticuli star system through an implant in her brain. She states that she was chosen to warn mankind that the object would sweep through the inner Solar System in May 2003 (though that date was later postponed) causing Earth to undergo a physical pole shift that would destro if you y most of humanity.[4]

The prediction has subsequently spread beyond Lieder's website and has been embraced by numerous Internet doomsday groups. In the late 2000s, it became closely associated with the 2012 phenomenon. Since 2012, the Nibiru cataclysm has frequently reappeared in the popular media, usually linked to newsmaking astronomical objects such as Comet ISON or Planet Nine. Although the name "Nibiru" is derived from the works of the "ancient astronaut" writer Zecharia Sitchin and his interpretations of Babylonian and Sumerian mythology, he denied any connection between his work and various claims of a coming apocalypse. A prediction by self-described "Christian numerologist" David Meade that the Nibiru cataclysm would occur on 23 September 2017 received extensive media coverage.

The idea that a planet-sized object will collide with or closely pass by Earth in the near future is not supported by any scientific evidence and has been rejected by astronomers and planetary scientists as pseudoscience and an Internet hoax.[5][failed verification][6] Such an object would have destabilised the orbits of the planets to the extent that their effects would be easily observable today.[7] Astronomers have hypothesized many planets beyond Neptune, and though many have been disproved, there are some that remain viable candidates such as Planet Nine. All the current candidates are in orbits that keep them well beyond Neptune throughout their orbit, even when they are closest to the Sun.
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V838 Monocerotis, a variable star accompanied by a light echo, has been erroneously portrayed as an approaching planet or brown dwarf on a collision course with Earth.[1]
Claims Earth's imminent collision or near miss with a giant planetoid
Related scientific disciplines Astronomy, archaeology
Year proposed 1995
Original proponents Nancy Lieder
Subsequent proponents Marshall Masters, Jaysen Rand, Pana Wave, David Meade, Terral Croft, Paul Begley, Matt Rogers

Pseudoscientific concepts

Pseudoscience consists of statements, beliefs, or practices that claim to be both scientific and factual but are incompatible with the scientific method.[1][Note 1] Pseudoscience is often characterized by contradictory, exaggerated or unfalsifiable claims; reliance on confirmation bias rather than rigorous attempts at refutation; lack of openness to evaluation by other experts; absence of systematic practices when developing hypotheses; and continued adherence long after the pseudoscientific hypotheses have been experimentally discredited
 
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I'll just let you ramble on. Say hi to Nancy. Wonder if she has heard from those aliens recently :unsure:
 

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This is what znp believes. he believes some crazy woman talks to extraterrestrials from the zeta reticuli star system through an implant in her brain.

The Nibiru cataclysm is a supposed disastrous encounter between Earth and a large planetary object (either a collision or a near-miss) that certain groups believed would take place in the early 21st century. Believers in this doomsday event usually refer to this object as Nibiru or Planet X. The idea was first put forward in 1995 by Nancy Lieder,[2][3] founder of the website ZetaTalk. Lieder claims she is a contactee with the ability to receive messages from extraterrestrials from the Zeta Reticuli star system through an implant in her brain. She states that she was chosen to warn mankind that the object would sweep through the inner Solar System in May 2003 (though that date was later postponed) causing Earth to undergo a physical pole shift that would destro if you y most of humanity.[4]

The prediction has subsequently spread beyond Lieder's website and has been embraced by numerous Internet doomsday groups. In the late 2000s, it became closely associated with the 2012 phenomenon. Since 2012, the Nibiru cataclysm has frequently reappeared in the popular media, usually linked to newsmaking astronomical objects such as Comet ISON or Planet Nine. Although the name "Nibiru" is derived from the works of the "ancient astronaut" writer Zecharia Sitchin and his interpretations of Babylonian and Sumerian mythology, he denied any connection between his work and various claims of a coming apocalypse. A prediction by self-described "Christian numerologist" David Meade that the Nibiru cataclysm would occur on 23 September 2017 received extensive media coverage.

The idea that a planet-sized object will collide with or closely pass by Earth in the near future is not supported by any scientific evidence and has been rejected by astronomers and planetary scientists as pseudoscience and an Internet hoax.[5][failed verification][6] Such an object would have destabilised the orbits of the planets to the extent that their effects would be easily observable today.[7] Astronomers have hypothesized many planets beyond Neptune, and though many have been disproved, there are some that remain viable candidates such as Planet Nine. All the current candidates are in orbits that keep them well beyond Neptune throughout their orbit, even when they are closest to the Sun.
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V838 Monocerotis, a variable star accompanied by a light echo, has been erroneously portrayed as an approaching planet or brown dwarf on a collision course with Earth.[1]
Claims Earth's imminent collision or near miss with a giant planetoid
Related scientific disciplines Astronomy, archaeology
Year proposed 1995
Original proponents Nancy Lieder
Subsequent proponents Marshall Masters, Jaysen Rand, Pana Wave, David Meade, Terral Croft, Paul Begley, Matt Rogers

Pseudoscientific concepts

Pseudoscience consists of statements, beliefs, or practices that claim to be both scientific and factual but are incompatible with the scientific method.[1][Note 1] Pseudoscience is often characterized by contradictory, exaggerated or unfalsifiable claims; reliance on confirmation bias rather than rigorous attempts at refutation; lack of openness to evaluation by other experts; absence of systematic practices when developing hypotheses; and continued adherence long after the pseudoscientific hypotheses have been experimentally discredited
Nope. Show me the post. This theory of our solar system being a binary star system is attacked and vilified with absurd articles like this. That doesn't mean there wasn't significant scientific evidence in all the orbits of the planets that this was the case, rather it means I am over the target that this is receiving such ridiculous attacks like this. This is libelous. Have i posted anything from this person? Nope.
 

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The scientific evidence that is undeniable and unexplained and therefore completely ignored is that the average number of earthquakes on earth about 70 years ago was less than 1,000 (2.5 and greater) and now it is over 25,000! How is this not all over the news? They are hiding this from you.

The same is true with an exponential increase in meteor events.

This is scientific evidence. They don't discuss it, they run from it, they hide it, but the fact is all the billionaires are building luxury underground bunkers and all the major governments have built extensive underground bunkers for the government and military.
 

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Very thankful to Polar for bring this topic back up. When You listen to the news they are relentlessly preaching that every single natural disaster and weather event is due to Climate change. It used to be called global warming, but when we didn't see the predicted warming they changed the name to climate change. The principal is very simple, weather events require energy and since we are keeping more energy from the sun that will translate to "climate change" a very nebulous term. But it allows you to say that a blizzard is a result which sounds strange if you are calling it "global warming".

The thing that scientists are coming to realize is that the models are not explaining what we are seeing this last year. It is murky when you look at a particular storm or drought, but everyone was expecting to see a rise in average global temperature causing the events and we aren't seeing that. That is the disconnect in the simplest way to express it.

But the even bigger problem is that there are massive changes happening that were completely unrelated to "climate change" theory and yet no one is talking about them or trying to explain them. The two most notable are the dramatic increase in meteor events in the world and the incredible exponential rise in earthquakes worldwide since the 1950s.

The yearly average for earthquakes was less than 1,000 and now it is over 25,000! It is stunning! This has nothing to do with greenhouse gases.

Prior to 2010 we averaged about 10 meteor events per year, we had 598 meteor events in 2021. This has nothing to do with greenhouse gases.

There are other disturbing issues as well. We have had truck drivers and people in the military leak out information about massive tunnel systems in the US, in Russia, in Europe, in China, etc. In the US alone the tunnels span the entire continental US and they are being stocked by massive 18 wheelers now. World governments are planning to hide out in caves (just like Revelation says) from some future event. Russia has a huge underground city in the Ural mountains.

Another disturbing fact is that the Catholic church has a very expensive and sophisticated observatory located in the US because it is an ideal viewing location. However, their telescope is only designed to see infrared objects in our solar system. It is a Binocular so they can accurately assess distance and speed.

So we have a 59x increase in meteors, and a 26x increase in earthquakes. Why is no one talking about this? (Except for Polar, again thank you for bringing this back up).
 

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Very thankful to Polar for bring this topic back up. When You listen to the news they are relentlessly preaching that every single natural disaster and weather event is due to Climate change. It used to be called global warming, but when we didn't see the predicted warming they changed the name to climate change. The principal is very simple, weather events require energy and since we are keeping more energy from the sun that will translate to "climate change" a very nebulous term. But it allows you to say that a blizzard is a result which sounds strange if you are calling it "global warming".

The thing that scientists are coming to realize is that the models are not explaining what we are seeing this last year. It is murky when you look at a particular storm or drought, but everyone was expecting to see a rise in average global temperature causing the events and we aren't seeing that. That is the disconnect in the simplest way to express it.

But the even bigger problem is that there are massive changes happening that were completely unrelated to "climate change" theory and yet no one is talking about them or trying to explain them. The two most notable are the dramatic increase in meteor events in the world and the incredible exponential rise in earthquakes worldwide since the 1950s.

The yearly average for earthquakes was less than 1,000 and now it is over 25,000! It is stunning! This has nothing to do with greenhouse gases.

Prior to 2010 we averaged about 10 meteor events per year, we had 598 meteor events in 2021. This has nothing to do with greenhouse gases.

There are other disturbing issues as well. We have had truck drivers and people in the military leak out information about massive tunnel systems in the US, in Russia, in Europe, in China, etc. In the US alone the tunnels span the entire continental US and they are being stocked by massive 18 wheelers now. World governments are planning to hide out in caves (just like Revelation says) from some future event. Russia has a huge underground city in the Ural mountains.

Another disturbing fact is that the Catholic church has a very expensive and sophisticated observatory located in the US because it is an ideal viewing location. However, their telescope is only designed to see infrared objects in our solar system. It is a Binocular so they can accurately assess distance and speed.

So we have a 59x increase in meteors, and a 26x increase in earthquakes. Why is no one talking about this? (Except for Polar, again thank you for bringing this back up).
Also there has been an exponential increase of Luxury bunkers sold to billionaires and multimillionaires.

Now consider how strange this is. Obama, a big proponent of Climate change, he has access to all the real assessments, things they might want to keep from Americans which would scare them, buys this huge multi million dollar mansion on Martha's Vineyard, right on the water? For 8 years you tell people sea level will rise and yet you buy beach front property? Now at the same time he does this rich people around the world are buying luxury underground bunkers to survive the apocalypse. It is reasonable to ask what do they know that we don't?

They are telling us every time anything happens that it is climate change and yet every time we try and put two and two together we don't end up with climate change. There is a very different catastrophe they are seeing approach.

Not only so but NASA launched a rocket in the last week or so designed to stop an earth bound asteroid.
 
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I'm thankful most people have the good sense to know your upper story is tilted
 

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I'm thankful most people have the good sense to know your upper story is tilted
I never heard that expression before, I have heard "you are all wet" or "you are underwater" or "troubled water" or "keep your head above water" or "wet behind the ears", but not that one. Thank you, I learn something everyday.
 

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It's not that the number of meteors has increased over the past decades, it is the ability to detect them that has improved, and continues to improve.

The same is true for earthquakes.
 

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It's not that the number of meteors has increased over the past decades, it is the ability to detect them that has improved, and continues to improve.

The same is true for earthquakes.
Baloney.

We have had seismometers since the 1950s and they have hardly changed. One seismometer in NYC can detect earthquakes in 2/3 of the Earth. If you add one in LA and one in London and a few other cities you are covering the whole earth. We have seismometers all over the earth and have had them since the 1950s. The US, Russia and the other nuclear powers use them to detect nuclear blasts. So this became a very important issue of national security for the US to ring the globe with seismometers. We have military bases and embassies all over the world. All the developed nations share their seismographs with each other.

Likewise with a meteor event. One meteor can be seen by a very large area on the earth. They are seen by pilots flying planes, they are seen by people who are outside working. We had the entire skies filled with pilots back in the 2000.

These type of claims are absurd hocum that is based on people who have an agenda to hold down the truth in unrigteousness.
 

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This is Nigeria today

 

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Baloney.

We have had seismometers since the 1950s and they have hardly changed. One seismometer in NYC can detect earthquakes in 2/3 of the Earth. If you add one in LA and one in London and a few other cities you are covering the whole earth. We have seismometers all over the earth and have had them since the 1950s. The US, Russia and the other nuclear powers use them to detect nuclear blasts. So this became a very important issue of national security for the US to ring the globe with seismometers. We have military bases and embassies all over the world. All the developed nations share their seismographs with each other.

Likewise with a meteor event. One meteor can be seen by a very large area on the earth. They are seen by pilots flying planes, they are seen by people who are outside working. We had the entire skies filled with pilots back in the 2000.

These type of claims are absurd hocum that is based on people who have an agenda to hold down the truth in unrigteousness.
baloney, you say??

sep. 23 i say.

do not act you do not remember that.....
 

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Also there has been an exponential increase of Luxury bunkers sold to billionaires and multimillionaires.

Now consider how strange this is. Obama, a big proponent of Climate change, he has access to all the real assessments, things they might want to keep from Americans which would scare them, buys this huge multi million dollar mansion on Martha's Vineyard, right on the water? For 8 years you tell people sea level will rise and yet you buy beach front property? Now at the same time he does this rich people around the world are buying luxury underground bunkers to survive the apocalypse. It is reasonable to ask what do they know that we don't?

They are telling us every time anything happens that it is climate change and yet every time we try and put two and two together we don't end up with climate change. There is a very different catastrophe they are seeing approach.

Not only so but NASA launched a rocket in the last week or so designed to stop an earth bound asteroid.
Al Gore bought beach front property after his movie, An Inconvenient Lie. It's probably from all that investment capital realized from Carbon Credits.
 

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baloney, you say??
Yes, I say to anyone who says the reason the earthquakes have increased 26x since the 1950s is because we are better able to detect them, that is baloney.

Yes, I say to anyone who says that we were not able to detect meteors 15-20 years ago as well as we can now and that is why we have a 59x increase in the number of meteor events from what we had 15 to 20 years ago. That explanation is baloney.

sep. 23 i say.

do not act you do not remember that.....
I remember this and I have addressed this. I linked Jeffrey McGaha's apology in my blog and I have not posted anything more from him.
 

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Yes, I say to anyone who says the reason the earthquakes have increased 26x since the 1950s is because we are better able to detect them, that is baloney.

Yes, I say to anyone who says that we were not able to detect meteors 15-20 years ago as well as we can now and that is why we have a 59x increase in the number of meteor events from what we had 15 to 20 years ago. That explanation is baloney.


I remember this and I have addressed this. I linked Jeffrey McGaha's apology in my blog and I have not posted anything more from him.
fair enough.
 

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A little good news for once

I was watching the nightly news as they showed the devastation in Florida and was thinking who is going to clean up this mess. Then I realized it will be cleaned up during the millennial reign which is called the "restoration of all things". That is when it hit me the Lord is going to need to rapture a whole bunch of construction workers and laborers. So for all the deplorables out there, good news, you will be needed in the kingdom age.