A Bird in the Hand is worth TWO in the Bush...

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Liamson

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this has all the making for a telanovela! : )

clearly, you already know that a relationship with emily should be off the table. there's nothing worse that settling for the wrong relationship, especially when you have this kind of awareness from the outset.

it sounds like the only good option here is AJ, and if you're even thinking of her as a good option, straightening things out with emily should be a priority.

i think that your friend aprilia is possibly right about emily. there's at least a couple really compelling reason to give strong consideration to whether you should be spending so much time with emily now that you've found new lucidity in what a relationship with her would be like. or at least, spending time with her until you're satisfied that things are more understood between the both of you.

i think it's reasonable to consider that she could be a very "slow burner", and still sorting out how she feels about you (or a relationship in general), spending all this time together could yield a scenario where you've become clear that you two aren't right together, while she's simultaneously (finally) figuring out that you'd be good boyfriend material and decided that she wants something more. i think the fact that she spends SO much time with you reveals that she believes developing a close relationship with you is a priority, and i don't think most of us (usually) seek out/form opposite sex relationships for the purpose of being (only) good friends.

i've actually been in a very similar scenario -- by the time i had developed strong feelings for him, he'd already decided that i didn't really care that much about him (in a romantic sense) and had sort of moved on emotionally. that "slow burn" could really be enhanced by this distraction from the veterinarian. if she had those feelings first for him, some of us just take some time to resolve that distraction/attraction before moving on. i've never been one to manage simultaneous attractions/romantic feelings, but from the outside it could certainly look as though someone is just keeping a "back-up boyfriend".

it sounds like you've never really had a super honest conversation with emily about this sort of thing, but maybe it's worthwhile to hear where she's coming from, or fish for a segue to get more honesty. also, pulling back a bit might provide the onus to have that conversation. making sure she's not expecting more from you should be a priority if you continue to spend all this time with her.

perhaps if you create a little distance between yourself and emily, pursuing something with AJ wouldn't feel so wrong? considering you've never actually been romantically linked with emily, i don't think that pursuing AJ would be in terrible form, especially if it was handled with some finesse.

AJ being away might provide a means to explore a different angle to the relationship with her, in a low-key, even (initially) ambiguous way.

sorry this is so long! if i had more time, it'd be shorter. : ) i hope this helps a little bit.

This is entirely what I was thinking. Down to practically every detail.

And you are right though, we haven't had a super deep conversation about this stuff. I think mostly because the more time I spend with her, the less romantically threatening she becomes to me. And because I asked her out, I think she believes I'm still there but, for her sake I believe we need to have some kind of an understanding.
 
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Date them both!! :D See how easy that was. :) You're welcome.


Is there an ad over here? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
 
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Arlene89

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Bahaha, beside your comment, Zero, is an ad for female clothing. The brand is called, "Misguided" (On my screen, anyways). Even the ads disagree.
 
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Bahaha, beside your comment, Zero, is an ad for female clothing. The brand is called, "Misguided" (On my screen, anyways). Even the ads disagree.
LoL thanks for letting me know, Arlene. :D
 
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keep_on_smiling

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Don't ever settle for someone, it isn't good for you and it is so bad and sad for the girl. You both deserve better. (You don't strike me as someone who would settle).

If you can't go and be with Jae (She's the one I'd choose in your situation), then I would just keep living life and waiting on the girl the Lord has for you.

What about your best friend, Aprilia, is she not an option?

Either way, if you question who you are with I'd think they aren't the one. In my mind, when I'm with the one, I won't have to question it.

I see you posted this a week ago, have you come to a determination yet? :)
 

Liamson

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Jae recently started dating someone.

Aprilia would be an amazing woman to date and marry and stuff but, she and I have a lifetime of history together. She loves me but, I don't believe she could ever be in love with me. I dated her sister, and that makes things complicated. We see each other and know each other, so in a weird way, its like we are too close to be anything.
 
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keep_on_smiling

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^^^ That's really interesting and kinda sad too about not being able to be with Aprilia. I suppose it's a blessing that you have such a close friend.

And on another note, you've already been with a friend's sister, so you kinda already know how being with A.J may turn out.

Thanks for sharing
 
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Ariel82

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1. don't date emily (she has put you in the friend box and just wants a buddy to hang out with, don't hold out on the hope for more)

2. don't date emily's sister (they are talking trash about each other, NOT a good place to be and not the type of mature christian girl you need in your life right now. God needs them to stop gossiping and grow up. they are sisters and should not be fighting over your attention like a dog bone)

3. jae sounds like a maybe,

4. being alone is okay, if you fill your life with other girls how will you recognize the person God wants you with? focus on God and He will show you the girl you should be with.
 
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Ariel82

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by the way you don't have any birds in hand so I'm not sure about the title.
 

TheAristocat

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I'm in a strange relationship.

Girl A: I will call her Emily (ISFJ)

Girl B: I will call her A.J. (ENTJ)

Girl C: I will call her Aprilia (ENFJ)

Girl D: I will call Jae (INTJ)

I hang out with Emily and her sister A.J. every weekend. About 3 months ago, I asked Emily out and she said, she was honored but alas no. Yet, we still wind up doing all the coupley things that I would expect in a relationship ie long phone calls, hugs, movies, working out etc etc. She thinks I'm a little weird because she doesn't get a lot of my jokes, references, symbolism or any deeper stuff. After getting to know her more, I realize that she isn't really my type, and it would take a lot A LOT of patience from both of us to make something like this work out. She frowns upon a lot of the stuff I do, but likes me enough to spend all of her free time with me.

A.J. is Emily's sister. (ENTJ) Very smart, gets my jokes, really competitive, curious, adventurous and in general aimlessly ambitious and wildly successful in whatever she does. She is their father's favorite. A.J. gets it, me, everything. But she just headed to the south for the summer. She left me with a I'm going to be lonely without you, wish you were here, take care of my sister while I'm gone thing. She is in college at BSU and I've helped her write a couple of papers, cause I'm good at that sort of thing and she appreciates my strengths.

My best friend female friend confidant person Aprilia basically said that my pseudo relationship is one where Emily is keeping me as her 2nd string boyfriend, if something else doesn't come up. Sort of like a friend box but, with the hope that we grow closer over time, eventually to become something more or hoping that she can change me into something she likes more.

A.J. hinted that her sister Emily had a crush on some Veterinarian guy and that isn't going as well as she had planned.

Meanwhile back at the Ranch. I was wondering, if this pseudo relationship were to develop into something more, how would that work? I was considering all the details and stuff, when a girl I had a crush on for a long time, messages me. We had talked a lot before and This girl, Jae (INTJ) really gets me, it, everything and feels it the way I do. But all the miles that separate us and our lives mean that just because we would, doesn't mean we should. Jae is someone I could pour my heart into and rather than getting weirded out, or overloaded, she could make something really beautiful out of it. But talking with her made me realize that Emily could never be someone I fall madly in love with. Ours would be a relationship of Duty and Utility. Anything that deviates from the norm of social expectations of hearth and home would be seen as weird or stifled to death.


My suspicion is that Emily is with me, not because she likes me but because other people do and she likes that, because she believes that she has me right where she wants me. And I enjoy spending time with her, which happens all the time. But the nagging feeling is that I'm settling for being taken for granted when the possibility exists that I could be in a better relationship. I enjoy having someone to spend time with, its good.

I haven't really given it too much thought, but I know dating A.J. would wreck Emily. Even though we click better and relate better, it just seems wrong to me. The funny thing is that they both talk trash about each other when their with only me.

Jae is simply out of reach. But to me she represents the concept that I can be understood and loved and appreciated for who I am.


Is it worth it to let go of what I have in the hopes of having something more, or should I simply be content with the situation I'm already in?
Sounds like you're getting nowhere in the situation you're in. Definitely wouldn't go with Emily. Probably would steer clear of A.J. too. In regard to Jae, note that women don't really care about distance if they're wildly infatuated with someone. My guess is she's using distance as an excuse. She may have some reservations against getting together with you or just isn't there yet, and the distance doesn't help.

Preferable option: find a fourth woman and invite them all to dinner on the same night and watch them duke it out?
 

cinder

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Preferable option: find a fourth woman and invite them all to dinner on the same night and watch them duke it out?
Please be advised that should you pursue this option and not let the girls know about each other beforehand, no woman on any jury will convict them for turning on you and beating you to a bloody pulp.
 

Desdichado

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The ENTJ in me says dump them all and let God sort'em out.
 

Desdichado

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That and find a corporate structure to improve/run shortly afterward. It's how we blow off steam.
 

Desdichado

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Also, find someone sufficiently smart, funny, beautiful, competent, and obedient.

K. I'm done. :p
 

TheAristocat

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Please be advised that should you pursue this option and not let the girls know about each other beforehand, no woman on any jury will convict them for turning on you and beating you to a bloody pulp.
I kind of feel like Emily's keeping him on a leash to be her second man. If men don't get two women, women shouldn't get two men. Although granted they're not all like Emily. Maybe just invite Jae to pretend to be his girlfriend to get Emily interested in him more? I hear women like men more if they see they're already taken.

Nah. I wouldn't do this. But it's fun to think about. :rolleyes:
 

shrimp

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Jae lives too far away and her circumstance dictate that if we were involved I would move there over the course of the adventure.

Also I've had a bad track record for distance, so its pretty much off the table.


And as someone else said, there are other fish in the sea. Its just that I want one like Jae, because she exists I know such a thing is possible.
Have you tried a new fishing spot?
 
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evelina

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Option A: if i would be a guy and in that situation i probably would talk straight up to emily how i see things , some girls just want to be lead on on and know how much the guy is into her , well and some guys are just afraid of the response i guess either she will say dude we r just friends or she will be actually with you ... - you know lol hahah...


Option B : dont touch any of those lol.... be friends for both , look somewhere else if you not sure if smeone gets hurt or inany sort of way , i guess if one of them has actually feelings for you they'll come around , let them wriggle and observe :)
 
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evelina

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Jae recently started dating someone.

Aprilia would be an amazing woman to date and marry and stuff but, she and I have a lifetime of history together. She loves me but, I don't believe she could ever be in love with me. I dated her sister, and that makes things complicated. We see each other and know each other, so in a weird way, its like we are too close to be anything.

i just read this later before posted my older post, well i think you think to much - have a time out-(Romans 12:3 ...think soberly,according as God hath dealt to every man the measure of faith :)
that might sound really maybe nobody wants to hear this ,
but pray about it and have faith and hope, great things will happen,
i havent been a long time on cc coudnt catch up with all u guys, lots of love God is good
 
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evelina

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Jae recently started dating someone.

Aprilia would be an amazing woman to date and marry and stuff but, she and I have a lifetime of history together. She loves me but, I don't believe she could ever be in love with me. I dated her sister, and that makes things complicated. We see each other and know each other, so in a weird way, its like we are too close to be anything.
you seem to be the next bachelor !!! lol jk
and i think you think to much :)