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I cannot tell a lie.
I will never be able to get into that kind of music. I still hear the use of autotune, which is uncalled for.
Call me old fashioned, but I think the talent is in the natural human voice.
And by the way, this is all coming from someone who went through a huge Beatles craze in high school. And not just their early stuff. While everyone in my school was listening to Hannah Montana/Jonas Brothers, I was listening to the whole Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club band album.
 

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I can give you 7 things Japanese music does way better than American music does nowadays.

1. In Japan, melody comes first

Americans have gotten really sloppy in creating melodies. I've heard from someone who knows music theory really well, and they said that a lot of Japanese music is much more complex and sounds more interesting than most American songs nowadays do. One Japanese song can have enough melodies to make up three American songs. Even better, they actually sound good. And the fact that they can make this music commercially marketable is pretty impressive.
Ok..i actually might agree with that..american old school music was good..new school..crap!
 

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And by the way, this is all coming from someone who went through a huge Beatles craze in high school. And not just their early stuff. While everyone in my school was listening to Hannah Montana/Jonas Brothers, I was listening to the whole Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club band album.
I thought most females had a Beatles phase.
I don't know who Hannah Montana or the Jonas brothers are.
How old are you?

Oh, and about the layers....
I do prefer simple melodies, although I listen to classical music, and pick out the different instruments while trying to imagine them each being played.
 

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I cannot tell a lie.
I will never be able to get into that kind of music. I still hear the use of autotune, which is uncalled for.
Call me old fashioned, but I think the talent is in the natural human voice.
Old fashioned ! Lol

 
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I thought most females had a Beatles phase.
I don't know who Hannah Montana or the Jonas brothers are.
How old are you?

Oh, and about the layers....
I do prefer simple melodies, although I listen to classical music, and pick out the different instruments while trying to imagine them each being played.
Like I said, everyone has a different taste.
Good, don't bother, they aren't worth your time.
Mid 20s.

Maybe I had a taste for that sort of music 'cause my parents lived through the age of hippies.
 
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Plus my dad is an amateur musician, and back in the 70s he'd travel around and play the keyboard with different groups. I can't remember a time when we didn't have a piano in the house.
 

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Plus my dad is an amateur musician, and back in the 70s he'd travel around and play the keyboard with different groups. I can't remember a time when we didn't have a piano in the house.
I wish I had talent for it.

I want to ask you another personal question.

Do you work, have a career?
 

Jewel5712

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@Tommy379

This "new skool" isnt bad..love the bass


All the percussion sounds are all vocals :(
 

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Plus my dad is an amateur musician, and back in the 70s he'd travel around and play the keyboard with different groups. I can't remember a time when we didn't have a piano in the house.
Yea. PIANO!
 
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I wish I had talent for it.

I want to ask you another personal question.

Do you work, have a career?
I've had three jobs over a number of years. I've never really had any huge ambitions. I'm currently not working and I'm trying to figure out whether I should go back to school or look for a job.

3. They leave songwriting to the songwriters

I'm not saying artists shouldn't write their own songs. What I am saying is just because someone can sing but doesn't write their own songs doesn't mean they are "talentless." Likewise, there are people who can't sing but who are phenomenal songwriters.

We seem to like the cliché story of a heartbroken girl picking up a guitar and singing along with her feelings, and writing every part of the song herself. A lot of Americans feel like if the composition and lyricism is not "authentic" and directly created by the one artist that performs it, it isn’t "real."

The singer-songwriter idea isn’t bad in itself, but the practical application of it leads to a slew of sloppy, underwritten songs that lack a killer hook. Everyone has their role in creating music, and a lot of the time, the singer’s role should not be the songwriter’s role. Quite frankly, most phenomenal singers are not good songwriters unless they have put in the countless hours of practice to both areas.

Remember how in economics specialization of labor leads to increased productivity? It is the same way in the music business. Everyone has their role, some people are much better at certain things than they are at others. This, of course, doesn’t mean a person can’t be talented in more than one area – rather, just that we must practice each individual skill we would like to specialize in. My main point is just that we cannot compensate for poor songwriting with phenomenal singing skill.

But I digress. I've heard a ton of amazing J-pop songs, and I was amazed to learn they were all written by one person. His name is Mitsuo Terada and he's one of the most prolific songwriters I've ever seen. He's been doing this for 20 years and he's written song and single one after another for dozens of different groups. He's written all of the singles for groups that were active for a whole decade. I'm not joking. He's like a songwriting machine. His range is incredible and a lot of his songs sound completely different from the other.

Plus one of his influences is the Beatles and that's an automatic plus for me.
 
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It's like saying all actors should write and direct all the movies they star in.
 

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I've had three jobs over a number of years. I've never really had any huge ambitions. I'm currently not working and I'm trying to figure out whether I should go back to school or look for a job.

3. They leave songwriting to the songwriters

I'm not saying artists shouldn't write their own songs. What I am saying is just because someone can sing but doesn't write their own songs doesn't mean they are "talentless." Likewise, there are people who can't sing but who are phenomenal songwriters.

We seem to like the cliché story of a heartbroken girl picking up a guitar and singing along with her feelings, and writing every part of the song herself. A lot of Americans feel like if the composition and lyricism is not "authentic" and directly created by the one artist that performs it, it isn’t "real."

The singer-songwriter idea isn’t bad in itself, but the practical application of it leads to a slew of sloppy, underwritten songs that lack a killer hook. Everyone has their role in creating music, and a lot of the time, the singer’s role should not be the songwriter’s role. Quite frankly, most phenomenal singers are not good songwriters unless they have put in the countless hours of practice to both areas.

Remember how in economics specialization of labor leads to increased productivity? It is the same way in the music business. Everyone has their role, some people are much better at certain things than they are at others. This, of course, doesn’t mean a person can’t be talented in more than one area – rather, just that we must practice each individual skill we would like to specialize in. My main point is just that we cannot compensate for poor songwriting with phenomenal singing skill.

But I digress. I've heard a ton of amazing J-pop songs, and I was amazed to learn they were all written by one person. His name is Mitsuo Terada and he's one of the most prolific songwriters I've ever seen. He's been doing this for 20 years and he's written song and single one after another for dozens of different groups. He's written all of the singles for groups that were active for a whole decade. I'm not joking. He's like a songwriting machine. His range is incredible and a lot of his songs sound completely different from the other.

Plus one of his influences is the Beatles and that's an automatic plus for me.
Get a job..go to school part time?
 

Tommy379

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I've had three jobs over a number of years. I've never really had any huge ambitions. I'm currently not working and I'm trying to figure out whether I should go back to school or look for a job.

3. They leave songwriting to the songwriters

I'm not saying artists shouldn't write their own songs. What I am saying is just because someone can sing but doesn't write their own songs doesn't mean they are "talentless." Likewise, there are people who can't sing but who are phenomenal songwriters.

We seem to like the cliché story of a heartbroken girl picking up a guitar and singing along with her feelings, and writing every part of the song herself. A lot of Americans feel like if the composition and lyricism is not "authentic" and directly created by the one artist that performs it, it isn’t "real."

The singer-songwriter idea isn’t bad in itself, but the practical application of it leads to a slew of sloppy, underwritten songs that lack a killer hook. Everyone has their role in creating music, and a lot of the time, the singer’s role should not be the songwriter’s role. Quite frankly, most phenomenal singers are not good songwriters unless they have put in the countless hours of practice to both areas.

Remember how in economics specialization of labor leads to increased productivity? It is the same way in the music business. Everyone has their role, some people are much better at certain things than they are at others. This, of course, doesn’t mean a person can’t be talented in more than one area – rather, just that we must practice each individual skill we would like to specialize in. My main point is just that we cannot compensate for poor songwriting with phenomenal singing skill.

But I digress. I've heard a ton of amazing J-pop songs, and I was amazed to learn they were all written by one person. His name is Mitsuo Terada and he's one of the most prolific songwriters I've ever seen. He's been doing this for 20 years and he's written song and single one after another for dozens of different groups. He's written all of the singles for groups that were active for a whole decade. I'm not joking. He's like a songwriting machine. His range is incredible and a lot of his songs sound completely different from the other.

Plus one of his influences is the Beatles and that's an automatic plus for me.
I agree with number 3.

I think it could be helpful for you to immerse yourself in work for the time being.
 

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I'm considering the local animal hospital, 'cause I like animals.
What is it you like about animals? Are you more comfortable around animals than people?
I like animals that perform a task, or provides food for me.
 
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What is it you like about animals? Are you more comfortable around animals than people?
I like animals that perform a task, or provides food for me.
I do find animals less complicated. I used to volunteer at a humane society to hang out with the cats ('cause they need to at least get along with humans if they want to be adopted). Having a cat in my lap to pet is almost therapeutic for me.