Christian-Muslim Relationship

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Jun 14, 2013
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It seems your only "liking" the posts that condone this relationship.

A devout Muslim and a catholic

That's the worst idea ever. Do you really want her family to disown her? If the two of you have children they won't know their grandparents, and i KNOW she is going to want her family involved with her kids.
This has not been thought through, this is two young people with a lot of hormones about to make a very foolish decision.
There's also the fact that its North Africa and the cultural traditions kinda means her family makes her life miserable. Very unloving and what not.

She's more modern about it all. A believer in the Islamic Renaissance and she protested during Tunisia's Arab Spring uprising.

It doesn't bother her so much as you'd think.
 

JimJimmers

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My opinion on a Christain-Muslim relationship is what The Bible says, that it is a bad idea. However, as you don't seem to be a Christian, how can I speak against it? Now, if you want to become a Christian, we can help you with that part, surely ;)
 
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NodMyHeadLikeYeah

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There's also the fact that its North Africa and the cultural traditions kinda means her family makes her life miserable. Very unloving and what not.

She's more modern about it all. A believer in the Islamic Renaissance and she protested during Tunisia's Arab Spring uprising.

It doesn't bother her so much as you'd think.
It very well might not bother her now, but she is looking at the rest of her life without her family...

Seems you already had your mind made up before you started your thread, i think you just wanted to ease your conscience by starting it and having those few people agree that it's a great idea to move a muslim woman over here(and in the process have her family disown her) marry her, have kids and not care which religion you raise them, all because you have some feelings..
 
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It very well might not bother her now, but she is looking at the rest of her life without her family...

Seems you already had your mind made up before you started your thread, i think you just wanted to ease your conscience by starting it and having those few people agree that it's a great idea to move a muslim woman over here(and in the process have her family disown her) marry her, have kids and not care which religion you raise them, all because you have some feelings..
I have tried to discourage her. Trust me, I have.

I wanted people's opinions. Wether or not I'd listen wasn't the issue, I simply wanted to see what people think or believe about the situation. Simple as that.
 
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woka

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If you are asking the question then I would think, you are aware that there are huge differences. I have a friend who wears a hajib and burka we have only been friends because of my interest in her religion, and on this basis am I 'allowed" to be her friend, but the Koran actually does not allow for christian fellowship or friendship if you have denounced Alah then you are an outcast someone to be hated in fact.

One my friend and I have the talk and I explain to her that I love Jesus I know the frienship will have to end so truthfully I have delayed the conversation.

She gave me some literature on Islam, I however was not allowed to give her literature on christianity as she is not allowed to read it according to the Koran. You have a choice to enquire about become Muslim and will have lots of open doors to you and lots of friendly people, but once you choose otherwise you are an outcast.

The reason I befriended this lady was to witness to her about our Lord and saviour Jesus Christ, not Mary, or Paul or any of the saints but Jesus our Lord and Kind. I could only do it on the basis of who I am to her, for her to learn to trust my judgement on day to day things, to build a deep friendhip and when and only when she enquires why are you so different to other christian people I know, I could witness about our Lord. It has to be a personal relationship becuase of the ban on th Bible or anything pertaining to Christianity, sad so very very sad.
 

presidente

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It's a really bad idea. If she converted and you both followed the faith, that may be a possibility.

According to her religion, she may not marry a Christian. A Muslim man could marry a Christian woman since he's the boss. But it doesn't work the other way. Sometimes it happens in looser Islamic societies. Her family might be willing to accept you if you converted to their religion, but loyalty to Christ definitely has to trump finding a wife. Also, if she does convert, many interpretations of Islam would have her be guilty of the death penalty. Some looser Islamic societies aren't that strict. I don't know about Tunisia, but my guess is that it is reasonably strict.

Divorce rates may be low in some Islamic societies (and high in others.) I don't know about hers. But keep in mind that if you do not follow her religion, there are those who would tell her she is justified in divorcing you. Imagine her running off with the kids after several years and having them trained to be Imams or Mullahs or whatever the Muslims have. Instead of having religion being a force to keep your marriage together, it can be an ongoing force to pull it apart.

There are a million subtle differences in beliefs and values between a Muslim from one country and a Catholic from another country. My wife is from a predominantly Muslim country. She's not Muslim. But we have a lot of values in common? Why? We both draw our understanding of values from the Bible, and if there is a difference in understanding between us, we can look there and we can pray together. There is also help from the Holy Spirit, and how can you expect that from the Muslim side of the equation? Lots of Sunnis call Gabriel the holy spirit. They think the Koran came through him.

Don't make a big decision like this based purely on your feelings. If it really doesn't make sense, and especially if it is sin or leads to sin, don't put yourself in that situation.
 

presidente

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She gave me some literature on Islam, I however was not allowed to give her literature on christianity as she is not allowed to read it according to the Koran. You have a choice to enquire about become Muslim and will have lots of open doors to you and lots of friendly people, but once you choose otherwise you are an outcast.
Sure, she can read it. Show her where the Koran says positive things about the Injil (Gospel), Zabur (Psalms) and the Taurat (the Law.)

I don't think Mu ham mad ever read the Bible. It turns out when his followers got a hold of it, it didn't line up with the oral versions of the Koran that were collected and edited into the koran by Abu Bakr, so Muslims now say the Bible was corrupted, but I don't think their 'scriptures' support that idea.
 
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Well here's the situation. As I said she is a devout Muslim. In Islam, women are not allowed to marry non-Muslim. Though, if we would, it would be in America (a place she's never been) and her family would probably disown her once they found out.

On my side, I would want to get married through the Catholic Church (she already agreed that if anything did happen wed have two weddings, one Catholic in America and one Muslim in Tunisia if at all possible). Her faith dictates she would have to raise any children Muslim. To get married by the Church we have to promise to raise any children Catholic.

It's kind of just a mess. I honestly don't care if we raise any children Christian or Muslim as long as they are aware of each of our cultures and religions and can make their own minds when they are older.
Here's what you do.. pray for her conversion and if/when she is ready to believe in Jesus, then you can get married. I truly believe God will work on her heart if you really love this woman. He would be on your side with the issue, and when God is for you, no one can be against you. There's no telling how long it will take though. I wish you both the best. God bless.
 
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I'd say it's a horrible idea because....IF you have any children together....Imagine what a nightmare trying to raise the child would be when you can't agree on religion.
 
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guidingfaith13

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So, while I was in Dubai I met a girl (Abir) who is from Tunisia. I met her twice on my 5 visits, the second was completely by chance and we didn't plan it. We've kept on contact for these last 9 months and I want her to come to America and see me.

We both accept we have feelings for each other, though she is a devout Muslim (not burka or Hijab wearing) and I am a lapsed Catholic. We always joke around about converting one another and the like.

My question is, what is all of you opinions about Christian-Muslim relationships?
Well to be honest in my view of it..i think it would be much harder to not have the same foundation as your partner! By having the same foundation, you both will have the same outlook on certain issues where as if you dont then that will lead to more arguments about the Lord and sooner or later those arguments will turn into resentment and a lot of bitterness!! Its just a burden that no one would want to have to carry for years and years!! By having the same beliefs you grow stronger to that person. form more of a connection then just physical attraction.. you really do become one!! and that is what a marriage is in the Lord. its a covenant in God..making the two persons one in the Lord.. If the other does not have that base then its a marriage of two people and will always be only two people and you will never turn into one. Then the do you want kids someday factor..i think it would be a big ball of confusion for them as to why mom and dad dont believe in the same things and they never agree..i just think its a territory maybe your should stay away from. but that obviously just my opinion lol not judging anyone :) just stating why i wouldn't go near it :) God Bless hun!
 
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isaria

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Muslim men are permited to marry christian woman.
Often they lovingly call christians "children of the book".

Woman are not to marry christian men because they see the man should be the leader in the house hold and they see a christian man would not be a steady guide of the family and may lead the woman astray.

I know a muslim man who married a non muslim woman and they argued about bringing up the son.
He was very good and patient man however.
He never abused her and was patient, tolerant and respectful.
Not all are like this.
He was a good husband but she did not want her child raised in muslim school.

She does not seem to be such a strict muslima if she does not cover her face at all or her hair/main.
Maybe it will not be so much dramas then.

It depends on the family, the partner, the type of muslim they are and how devoted and commited they are and what country living in.

You could probably arrange some thing.
Maybe even talk with families about it in a heart to heart kindof way. (romeo juliette) :)

If her family disown her that ofcourse may hurt (if he likes them ) lol (maybe they were not nice to her, who knows..)

The rules of the religion are as are but maybe you can find creative solution and talk about it.

best wishes to thy both and your relationship.
 
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guidingfaith13

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My opinion on a Christain-Muslim relationship is what The Bible says, that it is a bad idea. However, as you don't seem to be a Christian, how can I speak against it? Now, if you want to become a Christian, we can help you with that part, surely ;)
ahahahahah i love everything you have to say!! :p always making me laugh!!
 
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jimmydiggs

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My question is, what is all of you opinions about Christian-Muslim relationships?
If you're a Catholic, the differences are more cultural than they are spiritual. Whereas for a Christian, it is forbidden because of the spiritual difference and incoherence.
 
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We both accept we have feelings for each other, though she is a devout Muslim (not burka or Hijab wearing) and I am a lapsed Catholic. We always joke around about converting one another and the like. My question is, what is all of you opinions about Christian-Muslim relationships?
I like them. Most interreligious relationships seem to bring out the best in each other's faith.

My Dad is a Muslim and my Mom is Lutheran. There isn't any religious conflict in our house. They both understand each other's faith and accept the way they think, but agree to disagree. I think the biggest source of conflict will probably be raising children, as has been pointed out earlier in the thread. What my parents did was teach us the things both religions have in common, then introduce us to the differences between them later. They let us choose what religion we thought was right to follow, and made sure we understood it wasn't an issue of which parent we liked more, and that we wouldn't get disowned by one parent if we chose the other's religion.

I think that a religiously ambiguous upbringing is a good approach to the dilemma of raising kids. Dad says that Islam is essentially Christianity with an extra chapter tacked on at the end, so most of the things found in the Bible, particularly the Gospel, are relevant to Muslims as well as Christians.

If you wind up marrying this woman, nothing is stopping you from attending mosque with her on Friday nights and her going with you to church on Sunday morning.
 
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isaria

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Mohammed did not know how to read or write from what my teachings say.
His wife did the writing of Holy Quran for him as he told her of his experience with arch angel Gabriel and all Gabriel said to him and he experienced.
One of his wifes said he some times praid all night long.

His first wife was very very wealthy.
Wealthiest in town.A business lady.
One of his other wifes was known for being very wise and she is the one who did the writing .
Men used to seek to speak with her for advise but they had to speak with her behind a kind of wall , cover so they not look at her.Only listen.


Muslims beleive in old testament.
But not in the writings of jesus.
They have another version.

Also may depend on who you are as individuals.
As well as the families etc.

The whole chapter about jesus is very important though and can perhaps become a issue although since you mentioned you are not so much christian now..

Have you read the Holy Quran?
Maybe learn more about it.
I was watching something called guide us tv.
A yusef who was christian and converted to islam.

He wanted to marry and was "set up" with a muslims who apparently had cancer and was dieing so her husband who had only just married her divorsed her to find a "better wife" with "better body" that can make babies for him (her cancer disabled that) .
Yusef was horrified how awful that they juuust got maried and he leaves her when she is dieting and alone.
She survives.
Meets Yusef and they marry and she helped him raise his 2 daughters.

Guide us tv

theres a few other ones aswell.

Best wishes and God bless
 

homwardbound

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I have tried to discourage her. Trust me, I have.

I wanted people's opinions. Wether or not I'd listen wasn't the issue, I simply wanted to see what people think or believe about the situation. Simple as that.
Is it possible she is just looking for a ticket to get out, being stressed out and in rebellion, using her pharimones to entice you and has done so. Hope you have considered this what is her purpose? To escape and then what. get here and leave you behind afterwards. She from what I gather is rebellous and you have gotten attacvhed to her troubles. Think about since you asked
You just might be her ticket to escape captivity, as I know growing up we all want to escape from troubles. Out of the frying pan and into the fire
 
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Dine_wit_Me

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truth spoken, which a lot of times takes away and challenges free will, each has their own free will to decide and God has come through christ to live in each of us freeing us to teach us all truth from error. the choice good or bad is yours freely and hers too.




Homwardhound,



But isn't not our duty to Blase to speak to him from the Words of God and not give our own sinful, lustful flesh opinion....He asked for guidance...not ur opinion...Have u not read in the scriptures that God says...Cursed is the man who puts their trust in the arms of the flesh....Jermiah 17:5.....Oh and dont forget....God says, There is a way that seemeth right to a man...but the end thereof r the ways of death...Proverbs 14:12
 
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I don't see why religion should separate people who love each other, I've had experience dating a nonflexible muslin who eventually ended it because I had to a muslim for it to continue.
 
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Shouryu

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I don't see why religion should separate people who love each other, I've had experience dating a nonflexible muslin who eventually ended it because I had to a muslim for it to continue.
Wait...you actually have FIRST-HAND experience with a Muslim...who broke it off with you...because of your different religious beliefs...and based off of this first-hand evidence, you don't see why it wouldn't work?

"I just put gasoline into my diesel-engined car. Broke the engine. But based off of my experience, I don't see any reason why a diesel engine can't work fine on gasoline."

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Grey

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Wait...you actually have FIRST-HAND experience with a Muslim...who broke it off with you...because of your different religious beliefs...and based off of this first-hand evidence, you don't see why it wouldn't work?

"I just put gasoline into my diesel-engined car. Broke the engine. But based off of my experience, I don't see any reason why a diesel engine can't work fine on gasoline."

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I should have said no VALID reason.