Christian Women Please Dress More Modestly
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Copying and pasting this from another post I made based on dressing modestly (This is the second time I've reposted this... talk about recycling)
I used to be the girl who went to church, provocatively dressed and darting towards the single men with a spring in my step. At that point I had just come back to Christ, but still carried some old heart issues that caused me to continue being that way. I was well aware of the affect I had on men, I was well aware of what I was doing. At that season in my life my heart was still holding on to the ideas and thought processes of the world and I let lust rule my life. When I dressed myself with revealing tops and short skirts, I felt equipped and had some sense of power and control. The control made me feel comfortable, which made me feel beautiful.
Now, looking back, I am so glad that I did not enter into a relationship at that point. I had so much maturing to do, and my heart wasn't ready to be faithful to any man. It took a loving and godly friend to point out what I was doing and it hurt her to point this out. She worried that she hurt me and she fasted and prayed that I would see my true value. She wanted to see me free from the bondage I was in. I was so adamant that I was an object, I failed to even think I was a gift, a worthy mystery for someone to solve. My body was constantly revealed to all, but I never thought that it could be an undiscovered territory for someone to travel their fingertips along, or that my body was a map of scars and imperfections someone would one day come to know like the back of their hand. I never though that to understand and know me (in a physical sense) is an adventure. The feelings of unworthiness and 'cheapness' were evident in the way I dressed. This may not be the case for every woman, but it was very true to me.
I was a stumbling block to many men in my old church. Not all men will be affected by a women who dress in a matter that is revealing, but it is the case for most. Studies confirm that men are very visual and that certain images would run through their mind several times without them even knowing it. Why bother being a stumbling block? Why cause your brother or sister in Christ to fall? Because 'society says this...'? The old me was proud and would regurgitate feminist arguments until I was blue in the face, but now, the new me, wants to oppose the ideas the world has blinded me with for so long.
I think its about time we stood tall and created a counter-culture to the world. We are meant to stand out. We are meant to be set apart. We are meant to arouse the curiosity of non-believers and to set a standard. I've had enough of the ideas and perception that this world raises on some holy pedestal. Its about time we raised our eyes up to God and to return to His word, the bible has to say so much about how we dress and how we are to be conducted around and with fellow Christians. We need to stop blending bible and world views until it suits us. When you take in the Word and obey it, you will be surprised how much law and loving boundaries sets you free.
I now wear clothes that do not go above the knee. I wear singlets under tops that have low cuts. Finally, finally I feel beautiful because I am saving my physical body for my future husband. My body will be a gift for him to gaze upon and to enjoy. I am not worried whether I am a stumbling block to others, I don't constantly worry about what I am revealing therefore I am so completely comfortable.
Just to confirm, I don't judge women who wear dresses where the neckline meets the hem line of the dress. How can I judge when I did the exact same thing? But I so want people to break free from that because I remember what it was like to be that person.
I used to be the girl who went to church, provocatively dressed and darting towards the single men with a spring in my step. At that point I had just come back to Christ, but still carried some old heart issues that caused me to continue being that way. I was well aware of the affect I had on men, I was well aware of what I was doing. At that season in my life my heart was still holding on to the ideas and thought processes of the world and I let lust rule my life. When I dressed myself with revealing tops and short skirts, I felt equipped and had some sense of power and control. The control made me feel comfortable, which made me feel beautiful.
Now, looking back, I am so glad that I did not enter into a relationship at that point. I had so much maturing to do, and my heart wasn't ready to be faithful to any man. It took a loving and godly friend to point out what I was doing and it hurt her to point this out. She worried that she hurt me and she fasted and prayed that I would see my true value. She wanted to see me free from the bondage I was in. I was so adamant that I was an object, I failed to even think I was a gift, a worthy mystery for someone to solve. My body was constantly revealed to all, but I never thought that it could be an undiscovered territory for someone to travel their fingertips along, or that my body was a map of scars and imperfections someone would one day come to know like the back of their hand. I never though that to understand and know me (in a physical sense) is an adventure. The feelings of unworthiness and 'cheapness' were evident in the way I dressed. This may not be the case for every woman, but it was very true to me.
I was a stumbling block to many men in my old church. Not all men will be affected by a women who dress in a matter that is revealing, but it is the case for most. Studies confirm that men are very visual and that certain images would run through their mind several times without them even knowing it. Why bother being a stumbling block? Why cause your brother or sister in Christ to fall? Because 'society says this...'? The old me was proud and would regurgitate feminist arguments until I was blue in the face, but now, the new me, wants to oppose the ideas the world has blinded me with for so long.
I think its about time we stood tall and created a counter-culture to the world. We are meant to stand out. We are meant to be set apart. We are meant to arouse the curiosity of non-believers and to set a standard. I've had enough of the ideas and perception that this world raises on some holy pedestal. Its about time we raised our eyes up to God and to return to His word, the bible has to say so much about how we dress and how we are to be conducted around and with fellow Christians. We need to stop blending bible and world views until it suits us. When you take in the Word and obey it, you will be surprised how much law and loving boundaries sets you free.
I now wear clothes that do not go above the knee. I wear singlets under tops that have low cuts. Finally, finally I feel beautiful because I am saving my physical body for my future husband. My body will be a gift for him to gaze upon and to enjoy. I am not worried whether I am a stumbling block to others, I don't constantly worry about what I am revealing therefore I am so completely comfortable.
Just to confirm, I don't judge women who wear dresses where the neckline meets the hem line of the dress. How can I judge when I did the exact same thing? But I so want people to break free from that because I remember what it was like to be that person.
You cannot put a band aid on a solution for a deep laceration, as i aforesaid. Putting the air conditioning on 'chill' is like a band aid on a serious wound. Besides not all churches will have air conditioning save the nice middleclass churches. The bible says that the man is the head of his family, as Christ is head of the church. Where the man cannot control his own life, in that he is tempted by women's state of dress, perhaps he should not be the head until he can sort himself out. Perhaps the women should not put men at the head position for the same reason. Would you put a smack-head in charge of the treasury? The remedy. All church resource seems to be aimed at the youth. How about 'men' classes, 'thou shall not look at women's boobs or at their butt' irrespective of how they dress. As the bible infers it's how we react not the offense caused. How about adult education in terms of teaching parents how to parent, too. For Christian families, classes should be aimed at equipping fathers and mothers to approach their daughter how to dress appropriately. If mom is dressed inappropriately, daughter will likely dress the same, why because whom we associate with we will simply become like them, to cite the bible.
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Anthropological, no. Biblical, yes.
Ephesians 2:8-10 (KJV) [SUP]8 [/SUP]For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: [SUP]9 [/SUP]Not of works, lest any man should boast. [SUP]10[/SUP]For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.
Statistics mean nothing to me. They are flawed & slanted to the direction of choice.
As far as pushing our "beliefs", yes we should. More people would be saved if we did. If we believe Christ saves we should push it.
Some things aren't acceptable to us. Then again, some of our beliefs aren't acceptable to them. If there's no difference, there's no change, & we're not saved. The true church has NEVER been acceptable with the world.
You're welcome to disagree with everything that I've just said. So you don't need to quote and reply; I already accept your disagreement as a valid opinion and answer. I however refuse to treat myself as something greater, or higher than an unbeliever because they are just as reconciled to God than I am. If someone, whether an unbeliever or Christian, is doing wrong I will treat both of them with the same love— they are reconciled to God and only acting out of a reality that is contrary to the work done at the cross.[/QUOTE]
If your'e saved you ought to treat yourself as something greater..... For HE that lives within you is.
The saved & sinner are not reconciled to God...... only those that believe & receive Christ is reconciled to Him.
2 Corinthians 5:20-21 (NASB) [SUP]20 [/SUP]Therefore, we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God were making an appeal through us; we beg you on behalf of Christ, be reconciled to God. [SUP]21 [/SUP]He made Him who knew no sin to be sin on our behalf, so that we might become the righteousness of God in Him.
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Matthew 5:16 (KJV) [SUP]16 [/SUP]Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven.
[HR][/HR]1 Peter 2:12 (KJV) [SUP]12 [/SUP]Having your conversation(lifestyle, behavior) honest among the Gentiles: that, whereas they speak against you as evildoers, they may by your good works, which they shall behold, glorify God in the day of visitation.
If the world can't see the difference, we're not doing what we're supposed to do. We're different all right.... That's why I came to Jesus.... I didn't want to be the same anymore. I wanted to become His child. I wante to be forgiven. That's the difference.
Joan of Arc: "Still looking for my shield of faith & my helmet of salvation. Can't leave home without it. "
Ephesians 6:[SUP]10 [/SUP]Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might. [SUP]11 [/SUP]Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil. [SUP]12 [/SUP]For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. [SUP]13 [/SUP]Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand. [SUP]14 [/SUP]Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness; [SUP]15 [/SUP]And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace; [SUP]16 [/SUP]Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked. [SUP]17 [/SUP]And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God: [SUP]18 [/SUP]Praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints;
If we run the way the world runs, can they see the light of Christ in our life? It isn't the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eye we need to be concerned about, but the pride of life as well.
1 John 2:[SUP]15 [/SUP]Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him. [SUP]16 [/SUP]For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world. [SUP]17 [/SUP]And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever.
Psalm 101:[SUP]4 [/SUP]A froward heart shall depart from me: I will not know a wicked person. [SUP]5 [/SUP]Whoso privily slandereth his neighbour, him will I cut off: him that hath an high look and a proud heart will not I suffer. [SUP]6 [/SUP]Mine eyes shall be upon the faithful of the land, that they may dwell with me: he that walketh in a perfect way, he shall serve me.
Proverbs 21:[SUP]3 [/SUP]To do justice and judgment is more acceptable to the Lord than sacrifice. [SUP]4 [/SUP]An high look, and a proud heart, and the plowing of the wicked, is sin. [SUP]5 [/SUP]The thoughts of the diligent tend only to plenteousness; but of every one that is hasty only to want.
2 Corinthians 10:7Do ye look on things after the outward appearance? if any man trust to himself that he is Christ's, let him of himself think this again, that, as he is Christ's, even so are we Christ's.
1 Peter 1:[SUP]16 [/SUP]Because it is written, Be ye holy; for I am holy. [SUP]17 [/SUP]And if ye call on the Father, who without respect of persons judgeth according to every man's work, pass the time of your sojourning here in fear: [SUP]18 [/SUP]Forasmuch as ye know that ye were not redeemed with corruptible things, as silver and gold, from your vain conversation received by tradition from your fathers; [SUP]19 [/SUP]But with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot: [SUP]20 [/SUP]Who verily was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you, [SUP]21 [/SUP]Who by him do believe in God, that raised him up from the dead, and gave him glory; that your faith and hope might be in God.
1 Peter 4:1Forasmuch then as Christ hath suffered for us in the flesh, arm yourselves likewise with the same mind: for he that hath suffered in the flesh hath ceased from sin; [SUP]2 [/SUP]That he no longer should live the rest of his time in the flesh to the lusts of men, but to the will of God. [SUP]3 [/SUP]For the time past of our life may suffice us to have wrought the will of the Gentiles, when we walked in lasciviousness, lusts, excess of wine, revellings, banquetings, and abominable idolatries: [SUP]4 [/SUP]Wherein they think it strange that ye run not with them to the same excess of riot, speaking evil of you: [SUP]5 [/SUP]Who shall give account to him that is ready to judge the quick and the dead.
America is a nation that is in a slowly boiling pot of sexual imageries & unclean birds nesting in people's brains.
Revelation 18:1And after these things I saw another angel come down from heaven, having great power; and the earth was lightened with his glory. [SUP]2 [/SUP]And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird.
I was confronted with one of those unclean birds. They do exists.
I was half asleep waking up and my head jerked up and back as I felt as if a bird was taking off so fast, that my head reacted that way in its wake. I was dreaming about being underwater... and can't recall the imagery in the dream but it was about a naked or a semi naked woman swimming and I saw a huge bug swam towards her to bite off her head.
I did not fathom the moment until the Lord led me to those verses about unclean birds. Then afterwards in rel life, I went to see a movie that when I got there, did not realize that my favorite actress was in it... what I did not realize that she would be naked in it. The Lord has a tendency to warn me with prophetic dreams of what is to come.. and that was one of them.
For the sake of struggling believers, I will not mention the movie nor the actress unless it tempts them to see it. I could not believe she did a film like that and it was a stupid film. She had never done anything like it and she was usually classy about the kind of films she had done: action/suspense/family with big name stars... hopefully she will not do that again.
1 John 2:[SUP]15 [/SUP]Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him. [SUP]16 [/SUP]For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world. [SUP]17 [/SUP]And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever.
Psalm 101:[SUP]4 [/SUP]A froward heart shall depart from me: I will not know a wicked person. [SUP]5 [/SUP]Whoso privily slandereth his neighbour, him will I cut off: him that hath an high look and a proud heart will not I suffer. [SUP]6 [/SUP]Mine eyes shall be upon the faithful of the land, that they may dwell with me: he that walketh in a perfect way, he shall serve me.
Proverbs 21:[SUP]3 [/SUP]To do justice and judgment is more acceptable to the Lord than sacrifice. [SUP]4 [/SUP]An high look, and a proud heart, and the plowing of the wicked, is sin. [SUP]5 [/SUP]The thoughts of the diligent tend only to plenteousness; but of every one that is hasty only to want.
2 Corinthians 10:7Do ye look on things after the outward appearance? if any man trust to himself that he is Christ's, let him of himself think this again, that, as he is Christ's, even so are we Christ's.
1 Peter 1:[SUP]16 [/SUP]Because it is written, Be ye holy; for I am holy. [SUP]17 [/SUP]And if ye call on the Father, who without respect of persons judgeth according to every man's work, pass the time of your sojourning here in fear: [SUP]18 [/SUP]Forasmuch as ye know that ye were not redeemed with corruptible things, as silver and gold, from your vain conversation received by tradition from your fathers; [SUP]19 [/SUP]But with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot: [SUP]20 [/SUP]Who verily was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you, [SUP]21 [/SUP]Who by him do believe in God, that raised him up from the dead, and gave him glory; that your faith and hope might be in God.
1 Peter 4:1Forasmuch then as Christ hath suffered for us in the flesh, arm yourselves likewise with the same mind: for he that hath suffered in the flesh hath ceased from sin; [SUP]2 [/SUP]That he no longer should live the rest of his time in the flesh to the lusts of men, but to the will of God. [SUP]3 [/SUP]For the time past of our life may suffice us to have wrought the will of the Gentiles, when we walked in lasciviousness, lusts, excess of wine, revellings, banquetings, and abominable idolatries: [SUP]4 [/SUP]Wherein they think it strange that ye run not with them to the same excess of riot, speaking evil of you: [SUP]5 [/SUP]Who shall give account to him that is ready to judge the quick and the dead.
America is a nation that is in a slowly boiling pot of sexual imageries & unclean birds nesting in people's brains.
Revelation 18:1And after these things I saw another angel come down from heaven, having great power; and the earth was lightened with his glory. [SUP]2 [/SUP]And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird.
I was confronted with one of those unclean birds. They do exists.
I was half asleep waking up and my head jerked up and back as I felt as if a bird was taking off so fast, that my head reacted that way in its wake. I was dreaming about being underwater... and can't recall the imagery in the dream but it was about a naked or a semi naked woman swimming and I saw a huge bug swam towards her to bite off her head.
I did not fathom the moment until the Lord led me to those verses about unclean birds. Then afterwards in rel life, I went to see a movie that when I got there, did not realize that my favorite actress was in it... what I did not realize that she would be naked in it. The Lord has a tendency to warn me with prophetic dreams of what is to come.. and that was one of them.
For the sake of struggling believers, I will not mention the movie nor the actress unless it tempts them to see it. I could not believe she did a film like that and it was a stupid film. She had never done anything like it and she was usually classy about the kind of films she had done: action/suspense/family with big name stars... hopefully she will not do that again.
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I'm going through this thread, constantly seeing this picture, and I can't help but think "she's hot!" She's about as modest as you can get and yet, she still looks good. Can we once and for all stop putting the blame on women for what they wear for our own stumbling and put the responsibility back on ourselves? We can appreciate women as God's greatest creation, but where it goes from there, becomes man's choice and his alone.
P.S. Love the Joan of Ark jokes!
P.S. Love the Joan of Ark jokes!
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She figured it out...
Men like shiny things. Men also like women. If women keep shiny things around, they can be really beautiful without resorting to dressing immodestly.
Or... you konw... if men behaved themselves they would stop looking at only inappropriately clad women, and then all of a sudden all women are beautiful. There is that too.
How about both?
Shiny...
Men like shiny things. Men also like women. If women keep shiny things around, they can be really beautiful without resorting to dressing immodestly.
Or... you konw... if men behaved themselves they would stop looking at only inappropriately clad women, and then all of a sudden all women are beautiful. There is that too.
How about both?
Shiny...
Modesty is talked about in the word of GOD, and the very act of COVERING started in Genesis. So whether she is speaks of herself or not, Modesty is BIBLICAL and GOD accepts that.
When Paul says, it is no longer HE that lives but CHRIST in HIM, He did not mean that HE WAS JESUS in the physical. that is, JESUS took the body of PAUL, noooo PAUL followed CHRIST soooo much in as much that HE NO LONGER EXISTED (his old nature, His thoughts, His actions, HIS UNDERSTANDING, His wisdom) did not live. But whatever GOD through CHRIST taught HIM to do, think and Say, that HE did. And whatever GOD told HIM to do was LIBERATING.
And the very same GOD of OT is the same in tHE NT, His 10 commandments (law) still STANDS, if you break any of them, you will be judged THROUGH THEM, but the LORD went deeper concerning sin, and HE said, that if can surpress the flesh through walking IN THE SPIRIT(Through TRUTH and SPIRIT LED) life we will automatically obey the 10 commandments.
Thats where the OT comes in, GOD deals with Lust, Envy and other different characters before they manifest into Adultery, Murder etc.
The Word of GOD is pretty clear on the matter, WE still HAVE TO DO Something (ie WORK OUT OUR SALVATION WITH FEAR AND TREMBLING) but this time we are not alone, WE HAVE CHRIST who is the WORD OF GOD and the HOLY SPIRIT to give us STRENGTH, AND ALL THAT HE HAS IN STORE FOR US.
And YES HE GIVES RULES, AND PUTS IN DIRECTIONS, HE WARNS, and the liberty HE has given us, is the LIBERTY FROM SIN, and not the LIBERTY TO SIN. We are free from sin, but we are in BONDAGE TO CHRIST(Prisoners of the LORD as Paul PUTS it).
And a BORN AGAIN Christian LADY, should absolutely and positively COVER UP.!!. Not for men, but for HER own decency. Its quite simple really, but the clothes of these days have made Christian Ladies think its Okay but it ain't. Hate it or love it...
Dont take my word for it, If you have a relationship with GOD, a LIVE relationship with GOD, ASK HIM. You do want to go to heaven..
It's Jesus + nothing = perfect living.
A sanctification process of faith and manifestation of the living God. Send an inbox to Cobus sometime, I disagree with 60% of what he says but in my opinion he's hit some beautiful revelation on "sanctification". I don't have it right, and you sure as hell don't either, but from where I was to where I am now I could never preach another gospel. This is a faith trip, not a works trip. I will not dress up the Law as "intentionally striving to live a good and Holy life as the Christian should because they have been redeemed by Jesus".[/QUOTE]
When Paul says, it is no longer HE that lives but CHRIST in HIM, He did not mean that HE WAS JESUS in the physical. that is, JESUS took the body of PAUL, noooo PAUL followed CHRIST soooo much in as much that HE NO LONGER EXISTED (his old nature, His thoughts, His actions, HIS UNDERSTANDING, His wisdom) did not live. But whatever GOD through CHRIST taught HIM to do, think and Say, that HE did. And whatever GOD told HIM to do was LIBERATING.
And the very same GOD of OT is the same in tHE NT, His 10 commandments (law) still STANDS, if you break any of them, you will be judged THROUGH THEM, but the LORD went deeper concerning sin, and HE said, that if can surpress the flesh through walking IN THE SPIRIT(Through TRUTH and SPIRIT LED) life we will automatically obey the 10 commandments.
Thats where the OT comes in, GOD deals with Lust, Envy and other different characters before they manifest into Adultery, Murder etc.
The Word of GOD is pretty clear on the matter, WE still HAVE TO DO Something (ie WORK OUT OUR SALVATION WITH FEAR AND TREMBLING) but this time we are not alone, WE HAVE CHRIST who is the WORD OF GOD and the HOLY SPIRIT to give us STRENGTH, AND ALL THAT HE HAS IN STORE FOR US.
And YES HE GIVES RULES, AND PUTS IN DIRECTIONS, HE WARNS, and the liberty HE has given us, is the LIBERTY FROM SIN, and not the LIBERTY TO SIN. We are free from sin, but we are in BONDAGE TO CHRIST(Prisoners of the LORD as Paul PUTS it).
And a BORN AGAIN Christian LADY, should absolutely and positively COVER UP.!!. Not for men, but for HER own decency. Its quite simple really, but the clothes of these days have made Christian Ladies think its Okay but it ain't. Hate it or love it...
Dont take my word for it, If you have a relationship with GOD, a LIVE relationship with GOD, ASK HIM. You do want to go to heaven..
It's Jesus + nothing = perfect living.
A sanctification process of faith and manifestation of the living God. Send an inbox to Cobus sometime, I disagree with 60% of what he says but in my opinion he's hit some beautiful revelation on "sanctification". I don't have it right, and you sure as hell don't either, but from where I was to where I am now I could never preach another gospel. This is a faith trip, not a works trip. I will not dress up the Law as "intentionally striving to live a good and Holy life as the Christian should because they have been redeemed by Jesus".[/QUOTE]