Do you believe in romance??

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tourist

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I've been romantic to those I've dated, but they seemed to have gotten bored with it after a while...

It's awesome to think of creative ideas that show someone how much you care about them. I think love letters should make a comeback.lol
I think that this post is absolutely awesome. I believe that you would feel right at home in the JUNGLE ROOM thread. It is for those that are romantic at heart.
 
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ServantStrike

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#42
Romance is not just Disney stuff. Courtly love and chivalric values were part of a Christian way in mediaeval times. It is about noble love that believes that physical attraction is part of it but you have to have discipline and not give in to it, and is about proving you can wait. The tales that French nobility had told about knights performing tasks for their Lady or slaying dragons were the stories they had about the ideas.
You mean chastity? That's a given isn't it?

But if killing dragons is romantic, then romance is easy. That's a lot easier than talking to people about your innermost feelings.


All joking aside, I have a romantic streak, it's just tempered with an awful lot of practicality. It kind of has to be - no use giving my heart away every time I meet someone. Most people are not worth becoming romantically involved in, with very few exceptions.


I still stand by the statement that pain and suffering are related to I don't know, let's call them love coefficients.
 
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jeremyPJ

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#43
I do believe in romance. And surely it can be done in a Christian life appropriately!...
At least I hope so, I'm a hopeless romantic at heart :)
 

Descyple

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#46
I believe in romance for the same reasons I believe in the sun: not only can I see it, but by it I often get seriously burned!!!


(I slightly paraphrased C.S. Lewis there!!!).
 

ElizabethJo50

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#47
Romance and love are two different things.

Romance is what the world wants you to believe what love is: Nicholas Sparks, Disney, Valentine's Day, etc.
--Kissing in the rain
--Rose petals and champagne
--"Noooo, YOU hang up first! *giggle*"
--Moonlight serenades

Actual love is too busy for that stuff. Because actual LOVE is busy doing this:
--Changing a poopy-diaper instead of watching the final game-winning drive
--Scrounging up a homemade meal after a 12-hour workday because even fast-food is too expensive
--Skipping out on any Christmas gifts for yourself or your spouse to make sure bills are paid
--Praying and crying together when a parent-in-law or sibling-in-law dies
--Working extra hours so your spouse can finish that degree
--Making the bed every morning, because they like it made even though you think it's a waste of time
--Using your hard-earned day off to clean and prep the house for a visit from your in-laws
--Fighting over an undone chore, an impulse purchase, or an unthoughtful remark
--Doing things the way God says in the Bible, rather than take the easy way out
--Actually talking out fears and frustrations, rather than hiding at the bar or coffee shop for hours
--Watching them suffer through chemotherapy, or surgery, or depression
--Driving the rusted out junkpile for another year or two because they needed the newer car more
--Not sleeping while you instead, help your offspring with ANOTHER diorama for school
--Walking, feeding, and cleaning up after a dog you never wanted

Who's ready to sign up for a lifetime of THAT?! Sounds AWESOME, right?

Of course it doesn't. Romance is an idea, which makes it a noun, a feeling, a thing. Love is what you DO...as DCTalk once sang, love is a VERB. So we buy the lie about romance, thinking that's the ideal version of love. But when it comes time to LOVE, to actually DO...and we find out that love is NOT romance, roughly 50% of people find out that being romantic isn't enough to actually LOVE, and another marriage fails.

Romance is what you create because YOU WANT. You want, "need," that other person in your life. So you create romance to win them over.

Love is what you do, because THEY NEED. They need something, and you do the providing for that need, because you don't want them to have unmet needs. To be loved in return is no different, your partner equally thinking of YOUR need, and wanting to provide for you.

Christ doesn't romance us. He doesn't woo us or seduce us...He loves because we need, and He can provide for our need if we are willing to give ourselves to Him. THAT'S our model of love.

In the end, all romance does is lead you to the bedroom. Nice, but not sustainable. Also, far too much work for far too little reward. (Seriously, getting laid doesn't actually require romance, but in a day and age where people can barely distinguish 'being loved' from 'making love,' well...) Love leads to pain and sacrifice, but the comfort of knowing you aren't alone, and that someone is going to be with you when your life is hardest, when times are darkest, when anyone one else would abandon you.

Do I believe romance exists? Sure. I also believe that Twinkies exist. But I also know better than to eat nothing but Twinkies and expect healthy results...
I meant to quote this and state that it is an awesome response. (Will get the hang of this soon.)
 
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Ariel82

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#48
I am curious. Do you believe in romance yes or no?? If not why not?? How would you define romance?? Does romance go away after your married??

For me I dunno if I believe in romance or not. I like to think it exists but we do live in a fallen sinful world. For me romance is getting flowers and gifts unexpectedly without reason just because, getting love letters in the mail from someone when they live next door, calling me just to hear my voice, wanting to spend time with me just because, dancing with me when there is no music, going for walks in the rain, getting hugs and kisses when I don't expect them and when I do expect them, serenading me outside my house, opening doors for me, pulling out chairs for me to sit in, carrying me down steps so that I will not fall. When I think of romance I think of the Disney movies such as Cinderella, Sleeping Beauty, Snow White, Beauty And The Beast, The Little Mermaid etc. What is your opinion?? Are these childish thoughts that one needs to forget about?? Have you experienced what you would call romance?? Please share.
I don't know if I believe in romance.

I believe in love, whether it is the romantic type or the type you see between a mother and her child. I have seen love where someone will give their last bit of food to another and go hungry for days so that they can feel full.

I've seen love where people step in the way of danger so that those they love may not experience that pain. I've seen love where people weep rivers of tears because another was hurt or lost.

Love for me is when my husband washes the dishes so that I can do something else, when my daughter makes me cards with pictures of us hand in hand surrounded by flowers, when my son does his happy dance just because he is surprised to see me at school to eat lunch with him.

Is it romance or love that you are truly looking for?

I don't believe in knights in white horses.

There are too many Machevilli's who would rather use you than love you.

So I would not recommend people look for a Prince to come, but instead look at the gardeners tending the roses, or the waiter's serving others.
 
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AnnaBou

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#49
You mean chastity? That's a given isn't it?

But if killing dragons is romantic, then romance is easy. That's a lot easier than talking to people about your innermost feelings.


All joking aside, I have a romantic streak, it's just tempered with an awful lot of practicality. It kind of has to be - no use giving my heart away every time I meet someone. Most people are not worth becoming romantically involved in, with very few exceptions.


I still stand by the statement that pain and suffering are related to I don't know, let's call them love coefficients.
Yes chastity. Not a given where I am. Courtly love too, make him prove himself.
 
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PATRICKHENRNYPATRIOT

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#50
MissCris is lovely. God's spirit be with you.
 

Desdichado

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Feb 9, 2014
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#51
In its most perfect state, courtly love exists only in legend, but even in legend it had its flaws. For one, romance could only be experienced by nobles. In the same legends we have the famous jus primae noctis.

What we have in real life is something far more beautiful that can be experienced by, well, anyone. That and jus primae noctis is a legend concocted by French Revolution pinkos.
 

simplysweet

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Aug 21, 2014
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#52
Romance and love are two different things.

Romance is what the world wants you to believe what love is: Nicholas Sparks, Disney, Valentine's Day, etc.
--Kissing in the rain
--Rose petals and champagne
--"Noooo, YOU hang up first! *giggle*"
--Moonlight serenades

Actual love is too busy for that stuff. Because actual LOVE is busy doing this:
--Changing a poopy-diaper instead of watching the final game-winning drive
--Scrounging up a homemade meal after a 12-hour workday because even fast-food is too expensive
--Skipping out on any Christmas gifts for yourself or your spouse to make sure bills are paid
--Praying and crying together when a parent-in-law or sibling-in-law dies
--Working extra hours so your spouse can finish that degree
--Making the bed every morning, because they like it made even though you think it's a waste of time
--Using your hard-earned day off to clean and prep the house for a visit from your in-laws
--Fighting over an undone chore, an impulse purchase, or an unthoughtful remark
--Doing things the way God says in the Bible, rather than take the easy way out
--Actually talking out fears and frustrations, rather than hiding at the bar or coffee shop for hours
--Watching them suffer through chemotherapy, or surgery, or depression
--Driving the rusted out junkpile for another year or two because they needed the newer car more
--Not sleeping while you instead, help your offspring with ANOTHER diorama for school
--Walking, feeding, and cleaning up after a dog you never wanted

Who's ready to sign up for a lifetime of THAT?! Sounds AWESOME, right?

Of course it doesn't. Romance is an idea, which makes it a noun, a feeling, a thing. Love is what you DO...as DCTalk once sang, love is a VERB. So we buy the lie about romance, thinking that's the ideal version of love. But when it comes time to LOVE, to actually DO...and we find out that love is NOT romance, roughly 50% of people find out that being romantic isn't enough to actually LOVE, and another marriage fails.

Romance is what you create because YOU WANT. You want, "need," that other person in your life. So you create romance to win them over.

Love is what you do, because THEY NEED. They need something, and you do the providing for that need, because you don't want them to have unmet needs. To be loved in return is no different, your partner equally thinking of YOUR need, and wanting to provide for you.

Christ doesn't romance us. He doesn't woo us or seduce us...He loves because we need, and He can provide for our need if we are willing to give ourselves to Him. THAT'S our model of love.

In the end, all romance does is lead you to the bedroom. Nice, but not sustainable. Also, far too much work for far too little reward. (Seriously, getting laid doesn't actually require romance, but in a day and age where people can barely distinguish 'being loved' from 'making love,' well...) Love leads to pain and sacrifice, but the comfort of knowing you aren't alone, and that someone is going to be with you when your life is hardest, when times are darkest, when anyone one else would abandon you.

Do I believe romance exists? Sure. I also believe that Twinkies exist. But I also know better than to eat nothing but Twinkies and expect healthy results...

way to go shouryu!!~ ^_^