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IBDesmond

IBDesmond

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Haniml said:
So technically you (in general) could be with anyone however having in mind all these factors would narrow down your pool dramatically, e.g physical attraction, pet peeves, education level, goals, aspirations, etc.
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Please don't shoot meet down in flames but I'm the one of the dudes that, for me, aesthetic appeal plays a big role in my attraction to someone.
It's interesting you mention education level. To me, that's not important at all. I feel like that's almost...what's the word?....discrimination? I think that's the word I'm looking for. I'm not sure.
Anyone else agree or is that just me?
 
Lynx

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By the way phil38111, you have unknowingly opened a can of worms. There are people who are steadfast, hard-line believers on both sides of this topic. It's not your fault, I just wanted to explain why you are getting these responses in your thread.
 
JonahLynx

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I respectfully disagree based on the account of Isaac and Rebekah. Here, Abraham's servant departs in order to find a wife for his son Isaac. This was the servant's prayer when he arrived in the land:

And he said, "O Lord, God of my master Abraham, please grant me success today and show steadfast love to my master Abraham. Behold, I am standing by the spring of water, and the daughters of the men of the city are coming out to draw water. Let the young woman to whom I shall say, ‘Please let down your jar that I may drink,’ and who shall say, ‘Drink, and I will water your camels’ - let her be the one whom you have appointed for your servant Isaac. By this I shall know that you have shown steadfast love to my master.” (Gen. 24:12-14)

He requests a sign to both confirm God's approval as well as the specific woman whom He had chosen for Isaac. This happened to be Rebekah:

Before he had finished speaking, behold, Rebekah, who was born to Bethuel the son of Milcah, the wife of Nahor, Abraham's brother, came out with her water jar on her shoulder.... When she had finished giving him a drink, she said, “I will draw water for your camels also, until they have finished drinking. (24:15,19)

Therefore, the servant knew that Rebekah was the woman God intended for Isaac. By this example, I surmise that including God in your decision making - especially on an issue so serious as marriage - is wise and perhaps even essential.
 
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Mo0448

Mo0448

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IBDesmond said:
Please don't shoot meet down in flames but I'm the one of the dudes that, for me, aesthetic appeal plays a big role in my attraction to someone.
It's interesting you mention education level. To me, that's not important at all. I feel like that's almost...what's the word?....discrimination? I think that's the word I'm looking for. I'm not sure.
Anyone else agree or is that just me?
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So Desmond...it's not discrimination to set aesthetic appeal high on the list? I'm confused...I mean I think I get what you're saying but suggesting its discriminating to put education as a factor is about as discriminating as suggesting aesthetics is a factor...looks don't last forever...while I understand your thought to be "attracted" to the person ... however would you take a supermodel that couldn't carry a conversation and essentially be a "trophy wife" (no offense ladies), over a plain Jane who was intelligent and well educated?
 
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IBDesmond said:
Please don't shoot meet down in flames but I'm the one of the dudes that, for me, aesthetic appeal plays a big role in my attraction to someone.
It's interesting you mention education level. To me, that's not important at all. I feel like that's almost...what's the word?....discrimination? I think that's the word I'm looking for. I'm not sure.
Anyone else agree or is that just me?
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My preferences in what I look for in someone will vary from yours and every other person.

My post was a general statement and gave examples of what different people want from someone.
 
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JonahLynx said:
I respectfully disagree based on the account of Isaac and Rebekah. Here, Abraham's servant departs in order to find a wife for his son Isaac. This was the servant's prayer when he arrived in the land:

And he said, "O Lord, God of my master Abraham, please grant me success today and show steadfast love to my master Abraham. Behold, I am standing by the spring of water, and the daughters of the men of the city are coming out to draw water. Let the young woman to whom I shall say, ‘Please let down your jar that I may drink,’ and who shall say, ‘Drink, and I will water your camels’ - let her be the one whom you have appointed for your servant Isaac. By this I shall know that you have shown steadfast love to my master.” (Gen. 24:12-14)

He requests a sign to both confirm God's approval as well as the specific woman whom He had chosen for Isaac. This happened to be Rebekah:

Before he had finished speaking, behold, Rebekah, who was born to Bethuel the son of Milcah, the wife of Nahor, Abraham's brother, came out with her water jar on her shoulder.... When she had finished giving him a drink, she said, “I will draw water for your camels also, until they have finished drinking. (24:15,19)

Therefore, the servant knew that this was the woman God intended for Isaac. By this I conclude that including God in your decision making - especially on an issue so serious as marriage - is wise and perhaps even essential.
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[h=1]Genesis 24:1-7King James Version (KJV)[/h]24 And Abraham was old, and well stricken in age: and the Lord had blessed Abraham in all things.
2 And Abraham said unto his eldest servant of his house, that ruled over all that he had, Put, I pray thee, thy hand under my thigh:
3 And I will make thee swear by the Lord, the God of heaven, and the God of the earth, that thou shalt not take a wife unto my son of the daughters of the Canaanites, among whom I dwell:
4 But thou shalt go unto my country, and to my kindred, and take a wife unto my son Isaac.
5 And the servant said unto him, Peradventure the woman will not be willing to follow me unto this land: must I needs bring thy son again unto the land from whence thou camest?
6 And Abraham said unto him, Beware thou that thou bring not my son thither again.
7 The Lord God of heaven, which took me from my father's house, and from the land of my kindred, and which spake unto me, and that sware unto me, saying, Unto thy seed will I give this land; he shall send his angel before thee, and thou shalt take a wife unto my son from thence.;)
 
IBDesmond

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Mo0448 said:
So Desmond...it's not discrimination to set aesthetic appeal high on the list? I'm confused...I mean I think I get what you're saying but suggesting its discriminating to put education as a factor is about as discriminating as suggesting aesthetics is a factor...looks don't last forever...while I understand your thought to be "attracted" to the person ... however would you take a supermodel that couldn't carry a conversation and essentially be a "trophy wife" (no offense ladies), over a plain Jane who was intelligent and well educated?
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Yeh I hear you on that. What I meant was that education level sounds really formal. It's something you put on a CV (Resumé). Like (excuse my English grading system due to my lack of knowledge on American grading systems) it's almost as if Hanimi was suggesting that are attraction to someone would be based on how many GCSE's, A-Levels and degree's they have. Obviously their level of intellect is an important to me. I couldn't marry a spud haha. They can't be a complete cabbage. But I'm not phased about how many qualifications someone has. Not at all. I know mind if they dropped out of school or they have a PHD.
 
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Yeah, when I hear people talk about "The One", I'm thinking, "You mean everyone else is not good enough?" While in God's grand story it is "The One", to us, many, many people will do. It just ends up being whoever you cross paths with and say Yes to.

Forgive me if it's a bad analogy, but it's like looking for a job. Do we really care about a DREAM job, or rather, a job that fulfills our needs (not just money, mind you)?
 
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IBDesmond said:
Yeh I hear you on that. What I meant was that education level sounds really formal. It's something you put on a CV (Resumé). Like (excuse my English grading system due to my lack of knowledge on American grading systems) it's almost as if Hanimi was suggesting that are attraction to someone would be based on how many GCSE's, A-Levels and degree's they have. Obviously their level of intellect is an important to me. I couldn't marry a spud haha. They can't be a complete cabbage. But I'm not phased about how many qualifications someone has. Not at all. I know mind if they dropped out of school or they have a PHD.
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You completely missed the point of my post.

Obviously if I know myself and I'm not attracted to someone I won't engage in anything romantically with that person. That would be settling, plus a waste of time.
 
phil38111

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Lynx said:
By the way phil38111, you have unknowingly opened a can of worms. There are people who are steadfast, hard-line believers on both sides of this topic. It's not your fault, I just wanted to explain why you are getting these responses in your thread.
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haha. Had no idea. Well, my new years resolution is to stop debating people. So I'm not going to defend my point at all. I'm going to let my CC goons handle this one. lol.
 
secularhermit

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Rubish?

What is you were given the present to meet her JUST TONIGHT?

Hormonally I have lived it out, years ago, and it was so exciting (?) that I would not call it that way.
 
IBDesmond

IBDesmond

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Haniml said:
You completely missed the point of my post.

Obviously if I know myself and I'm not attracted to someone I won't engage in anything romantically with that person. That would be settling, plus a waste of time.
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No I didn't miss the point of your post. I was just trying to clarify what you meant by Education level. Everyone has a different criteria for what they're attracted to (e.g. can sing, can dance, same profession/complementing profession, salary, etc). I was wondering what you meant by Education Level. No biggie :)
 
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IBDesmond said:
No I didn't miss the point of your post. I was just trying to clarify what you meant by Education level. Everyone has a different criteria for what they're attracted to (e.g. can sing, can dance, same profession/complementing profession, salary, etc). I was wondering what you meant by Education Level. No biggie :)
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Lol then you should have just asked that. If you're a doctor would you consider a waitress ? Education also does play a role.

If I aspire a certain goal that required a level of education would my significant other contribute to that goal without the proper education.

But like I say since we each are different, should know ourselves, our preferences will vary.
 
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Oh and by the way I have nothing against waitresses. I think they do an excellent job, I think I'm to clumsy for it. Pease no one get offended, I was just making a point.
 
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ELECT

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Haniml said:
Lol then you should have just asked that. If you're a doctor would you consider a waitress ? Education also does play a role.

If I aspire a certain goal that required a level of education would my significant other contribute to that goal without the proper education.

But like I say since we each are different, should know ourselves, our preferences will vary.
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i always wonder why doctors want a petty secretary and in some cases marry them ;)
 
Mo0448

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Haniml said:
Oh and by the way I have nothing against waitresses. I think they do an excellent job, I think I'm to clumsy for it. Pease no one get offended, I was just making a point.
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Anti Waitress! :p

 
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ELECT said:
i always wonder why doctors want a petty secretary and in some cases marry them ;)
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I've only seen that in movies :p and even then I'm sure he would pay for her school to be something else. Pease don't dissect my statement I think it was clear.

To the O poster I'm not trying to derail your thread. :) I was just stating my opinion on the whole soul mate etc.
 
Lynx

Lynx

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phil38111 said:
haha. Had no idea. Well, my new years resolution is to stop debating people. So I'm not going to defend my point at all. I'm going to let my CC goons handle this one. lol.
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Stop debating people? Come my brother, I can prove biblically that debating is good. Let's have a debate... er, let's discuss this matter. I will prove I am right. :cool:
 
Oncefallen

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JonahLynx said:
I respectfully disagree based on the account of Isaac and Rebekah. Here, Abraham's servant departs in order to find a wife for his son Isaac. This was the servant's prayer when he arrived in the land:

And he said, "O Lord, God of my master Abraham, please grant me success today and show steadfast love to my master Abraham. Behold, I am standing by the spring of water, and the daughters of the men of the city are coming out to draw water. Let the young woman to whom I shall say, ‘Please let down your jar that I may drink,’ and who shall say, ‘Drink, and I will water your camels’ - let her be the one whom you have appointed for your servant Isaac. By this I shall know that you have shown steadfast love to my master.” (Gen. 24:12-14)

He requests a sign to both confirm God's approval as well as the specific woman whom He had chosen for Isaac. This happened to be Rebekah:

Before he had finished speaking, behold, Rebekah, who was born to Bethuel the son of Milcah, the wife of Nahor, Abraham's brother, came out with her water jar on her shoulder.... When she had finished giving him a drink, she said, “I will draw water for your camels also, until they have finished drinking. (24:15,19)

Therefore, the servant knew that Rebekah was the woman God intended for Isaac. By this example, I surmise that including God in your decision making - especially on an issue so serious as marriage - is wise and perhaps even essential.
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To take one or two instances where God did something a specific way and extrapolate that God does it that way all the time is inherently dangerous theologically. I do, however, agree that God should be included in our decision making.
 
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