Guys Like Girls Who are Intelligent

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Guess that IQ test I took claiming I was just shy of super genius was wrong then, cause I have trouble carrying conversations. Too bad.....
Noticed how I prefaced my statement. I really don't see the point in going out with someone I couldn't communicate with.

And yes, I realize my definition is highly subjective. We're talking about relationship preferences, so it has to be a subjective judgement.
 
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Skybound

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I tend to find a quirky or sarcastic sense of humor a lot more attractive than a math grade. Or, well, any grade. Don't go changing, Smudge. I've seen a few of your posts and you seem to be a fun, intelligent, wonderful young woman.
 

Liamson

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Noticed how I prefaced my statement. I really don't see the point in going out with someone I couldn't communicate with.

And yes, I realize my definition is highly subjective. We're talking about relationship preferences, so it has to be a subjective judgement.
Actually this ties into why I got into the Psychology of relationships in the first place.


I was dating a woman that I couldn't communicate with. And no matter how hard I tried, it was like I was digging for a piece of her mind that didn't exist. No line of reasoning could find what inspired her and no question could search out what moves her. I still have no idea how she expresses herself.

So after doing some research I discovered that in spite of her having a Masters Degree, she was not wired to "get" abstract, intuitive or metaphorical concepts. If it wasn't concrete, factual or otherwise mundane day to day stuff, it didn't interest her. She would talk about the weather and want to watch TV and I hate TV, because to me its mindless but, to her its a way to unwind and not have to think.

The only thing that we really had in common was that we both liked fitness and playing sports. Which in retrospect is really silly.
 
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Actually this ties into why I got into the Psychology of relationships in the first place.


I was dating a woman that I couldn't communicate with. And no matter how hard I tried, it was like I was digging for a piece of her mind that didn't exist. No line of reasoning could find what inspired her and no question could search out what moves her. I still have no idea how she expresses herself.

So after doing some research I discovered that in spite of her having a Masters Degree, she was not wired to "get" abstract, intuitive or metaphorical concepts. If it wasn't concrete, factual or otherwise mundane day to day stuff, it didn't interest her. She would talk about the weather and want to watch TV and I hate TV, because to me its mindless but, to her its a way to unwind and not have to think.

The only thing that we really had in common was that we both liked fitness and playing sports. Which in retrospect is really silly.
I really have tried not to be a crank in this fashion, but you are correct.

3 women have heavily been on my radar. 2 of them were sensors, 1 intuitor. I fell hopelessly in love with the intuitor and would still dream of being with her. The other two didn't have the same fire because I really couldn't communicate with them beyond "So yeah, this is what I did today."
 
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I think "well read" is attractive. Like someone else wrote, it is not about your ability to do math. To me, it is more about who you are as a person and of course, there has to be some physical attraction between the man and woman.
 
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Yes, so much yes. I used to date a model, and ended up dumping her. Lesson learned in beauty without brains. Meanwhile I was dating this girl purely on physical attraction I ignored the one who had both, and she ended up marrying a complete jerk. We talked two years later and both admitted, our lives would have been much better had I not gone with the model, and dated her instead. #regret.
 
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Thank you guys- I haven't had a lot of time to respond to posts because school has started(yaay). But you all have given me a lot to think about. I just hope that when I meet *him* I'll be able to speak calmly because nerves tend to me say backwards things make. Then the shunning begins... haha! xD


So I guess what guys should put in their "list" of what they want in a woman isn't intelligence so much as conversation and knowledge. But I can see how its simply easier to just say intelligence.

Fortunately my phase of twitterpation without a target is over and I can chill. Still some insecurities but we all have them.
 

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Actually this ties into why I got into the Psychology of relationships in the first place.


I was dating a woman that I couldn't communicate with. And no matter how hard I tried, it was like I was digging for a piece of her mind that didn't exist. No line of reasoning could find what inspired her and no question could search out what moves her. I still have no idea how she expresses herself.

So after doing some research I discovered that in spite of her having a Masters Degree, she was not wired to "get" abstract, intuitive or metaphorical concepts. If it wasn't concrete, factual or otherwise mundane day to day stuff, it didn't interest her. She would talk about the weather and want to watch TV and I hate TV, because to me its mindless but, to her its a way to unwind and not have to think.

The only thing that we really had in common was that we both liked fitness and playing sports. Which in retrospect is really silly.
This is nearly identical to the problem I had in my last relationship. She just didn't want to think. Of course, she had also finished junior year of high school. The only thing we really had in common was our Christian faith values, and the fact we both come from messed up families.
 
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I love intelligent women. Only intelligent women. But you know, intelligence is not measured by your grades in school. Not at all. Nor is it measured by your knowledge of math.

Let me ask you some questions.
Do you like to read?
Do you spend a lot of time thinking about the world and why you are here and why the world is here?
Do you have deep thoughts about the meaning of life?
Do you like philosophy?
Does the world fascinate you?
Do different cultures fascinate you?
Do you like nature ?
Do you like art?
Do you like science?
Do you like to read the bible?
Do you like to think deeply about the meaning of bible versus?

If the answer to any of those questions is yes, you are intelligent. You could add more questions there too. Essentially if you care about anything meaningful in this world.

The only person I would consider not intelligent is those shallow superficial women you see whose only meaning in life is to gossip about why she is better than her friends because her friends are less pretty than she is or have worse clothes, or are not as rich, and who party 24/7 and get drunk and have a different boyfriend every other day. Not only are they immoral, they are also not very intelligent.
well said.....................................
 
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simplyme_bekah

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After studying loads of Psychology, I've discovered a few things. There are many different kinds of intelligence. I'm not trying to be a relativist or anything but, it depends person to person how we judge what we see.

Some people can do really hard math. Some people can speak 3 or more languages. Some people can write music without trying. Some people can tell me everything there is to know about every sports car from 1974 to present. Some people can paint masterpieces without a thought. Some people can do impressions and drama extraordinarily well.

I'm terrible at math. I don't care if someone else is terrible at math either.

What is really attractive about a woman to me, is not intelligence or how good at some academic pursuit a girl is. For me, its Wisdom. Wisdom is the practical application of knowledge. Some people get Ph.D's that don't know how to balance a checkbook. But the woman who knows what she believes in and why, that is impressive to me. A woman who does what she knows is right, not because there might be a rule against it but, because its who she is. That is attractive. A woman who has character that springs from her relationship with God and the respect that she has for His holiness, she is worth all the degrees a university can deliver. Wisdom is not something that can be hung on a wall, but it is displayed through every action a woman can make.

Charm is deceptive, and beauty does not last; but a woman who fears the Lord will be greatly praised. Pr 31:30
You are a very wise Godly man. That is awesome!!! ;)
 
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violakat

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Intelligence and Education are not the same thing, although, people do confuse the too. Intelligence is based upon your ability to reason and think things out. While being educated is more understanding what you have learned, which does not have to come from schools. (One can be well educated without ever having to step in a school. And one can be uneducated and have attended an Ivy League School. Although the latter doesn't often happen. But if you go to college and haven't really learn anything, even though you have a degree, are you truly educated? Ok, enough of my soap box.)

Getting back to what I was going with, from the responses on here, it seems that real men do want intelligent, educated women, while the boys chase after the ditzes of the world.

And guys, just so you know, most women also want men who are intelligent and educated. And let me just say again, educated does not necessarily mean you had to go to college.
 

lil_christian

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SO.... about a month ago I went on a journey through the interwebs. My quest was to satisfy the sudden romance addict in me. I read true love stories(I love the ones that are told by eighty-year-old couples. Oh it makes my heart melt!), watched proposals on the youtube, read articles on dating advice....

And I came across a consistency in the "what guys look for in girls" topic. It wasn't beauty or a sense of humor. It wasn't personality either. It was intelligence.

Statistically out of all the articles and comments from guys that I read, the one thing that they all agreed on was intelligence. ((Deep down I know that guys like girls who are girls))

I'm going to admit that I feel okay on confidence until we reach that trait specifically. I have dyslexia and it caused a lot of problems with math and it effects my speech a bit. I go to a deadbeat community college(there, everyone thinks they're a failure- its thick in the atmosphere), and though I get As and Bs- they aren't rewarding because I feel like I got the dumbed down version of the cookie.

So when I hear about all these guys asking for intelligence in women, not just the silly articles, conversations with actual guys too. I'm sitting here thinking that they want those girls that are quick on their feet, consume math like it was bacon, aren't gullible... and unquestionably smart.

Don't worry though- I'm not sitting in my room crying, "Oh! Woe is me! Now I'll NEVER get a boyfriend!!!"

I'm sure someone is going to fall for me, if its God's will, my own brother described me as a Meg Ryan stock character. Haha!

I guess my big question is- what do guys consider intelligent? If I'm in the range that is what is considered intelligent--- then why is it that guys desire intelligence like its hard to find? I don't think that there are a lot of people that are considerably "dumber" than me. As in, I feel like I'm fairly average at best.

The title of this reminds me of a book by Chad Eastham :) it's called "Guys like Girls Who..."


He's super awesome :)

The first chapter says, Guys like girls who are born. :p He said in the book he wished he could just end it at that. Guys like girls who are born. The End. LOL
 
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SO.... about a month ago I went on a journey through the interwebs. My quest was to satisfy the sudden romance addict in me. I read true love stories(I love the ones that are told by eighty-year-old couples. Oh it makes my heart melt!), watched proposals on the youtube, read articles on dating advice....

And I came across a consistency in the "what guys look for in girls" topic. It wasn't beauty or a sense of humor. It wasn't personality either. It was intelligence.

Statistically out of all the articles and comments from guys that I read, the one thing that they all agreed on was intelligence. ((Deep down I know that guys like girls who are girls))

I'm going to admit that I feel okay on confidence until we reach that trait specifically. I have dyslexia and it caused a lot of problems with math and it effects my speech a bit. I go to a deadbeat community college(there, everyone thinks they're a failure- its thick in the atmosphere), and though I get As and Bs- they aren't rewarding because I feel like I got the dumbed down version of the cookie.

So when I hear about all these guys asking for intelligence in women, not just the silly articles, conversations with actual guys too. I'm sitting here thinking that they want those girls that are quick on their feet, consume math like it was bacon, aren't gullible... and unquestionably smart.

Don't worry though- I'm not sitting in my room crying, "Oh! Woe is me! Now I'll NEVER get a boyfriend!!!"

I'm sure someone is going to fall for me, if its God's will, my own brother described me as a Meg Ryan stock character. Haha!

I guess my big question is- what do guys consider intelligent? If I'm in the range that is what is considered intelligent--- then why is it that guys desire intelligence like its hard to find? I don't think that there are a lot of people that are considerably "dumber" than me. As in, I feel like I'm fairly average at best.
I'm hopping in a little late, but a couple things. Going to a community college says nothing about your intelligence. I went to several community colleges to get the general credits out of the way, before transferring to a university.

I think for me the type of intelligence I would be looking for is being able to use their brain to think. Some people are totally clueless and believe just about everything they hear and read, they don't know how to think through anything. Then there are people on the other side of the yard stick and they are so smart and brainy they don't know how to carry on a normal conversation.
 
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violakat

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I'm hopping in a little late, but a couple things. Going to a community college says nothing about your intelligence. I went to several community colleges to get the general credits out of the way, before transferring to a university.

I think for me the type of intelligence I would be looking for is being able to use their brain to think. Some people are totally clueless and believe just about everything they hear and read, they don't know how to think through anything. Then there are people on the other side of the yard stick and they are so smart and brainy they don't know how to carry on a normal conversation.
Admit it, you like common sense.
 
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Chrissy77

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I actually had a man tell me one time that I was too strong of a woman for things to ever work out between us. He said he was looking for a woman who he felt superior to personality wise. Crazy!
 

eugenius

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I'm sure if this article was published in Harvard, you would find her exceedingly un-intelligent. ;)

I would put intelligence up there, and maybe just a willingness to talk.

Being out with someone who just never has anything to say for me is really boring. If you suddenly just start talking to me about some article you read on why the human brain wouldn't provide the nutritional value a zombie needs in a daily diet and you read that in some Yale published paper, well I'm going to find you much more interesting.
 

eugenius

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Guess that IQ test I took claiming I was just shy of super genius was wrong then, cause I have trouble carrying conversations. Too bad.....
There is a difference between having trouble communicating and having nothing to say. You can be blind, death, or autistic but can have plenty to say. If you have nothing to say because nothing interests you, then you are not very intelligent. Or if only superficial things interest you. What is or isn't superficial can be further debated, but by participating in the debate you would prove that you are intelligent because the question interests you. ;)
 

eugenius

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A good example is found in the arts. Lets take music.

If the lyrics of your song are

What you gon' do with all that junk?
All that junk inside that trunk?
I'ma get, get, get, get, you drunk,
Get you love drunk off my hump.
You are NOT very smart............

The song continues and gets much more explicit and vile. And the worst part is, its extremely catchy. Lord help us.


If the lyrics to your song are

People killin',
people dyin'
Children hurt and you hear them cryin'
Can you practice what you preach
And would you turn the other cheek

Father, Father, Father help us
Send some guidance from above
'Cause people got me, got me questionin'
Where is the love (Love)
You are most definitely intelligent........

Considering that both of these songs come from the same group "Black eyed Peas". I have no idea what to say. Hahahaha. :D

The only conclusion I can make is that Black eyed Peas will sing ANYTHING someone writes for them without reading the lyrics. I mean come on. How hypocritical.
 
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violakat

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ummm, yeah...who doesn't? How would you describe common sense anyway?
Well, Gorillas might say that common sense says that if one hand has more candy then the other, you want the hand with the most candy. (Yes, there was an experiment along time ago that was based on a similar scenario.)

But seriously, common sense is knowing how to survive in everyday life. And there are different types of common sense: street smart, city smart, country life, survival-ism, etc ....