I swear, everytime I hear my friend talking about how much they love their girlfriend

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eugenius

eugenius

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MaryR said:
Oh my. You are cynical. haha It's funny for me to say that because I thought I was about as cynical as it gets. It seems to me that you're cynical about more than just "love"... you're a bit cynical about life in general. Clearly, since I'm a bit younger I'm likely not the best to respond to this with something to the effect of "It just gets better as you get older. You just have to wait and see what God has in store for you." But guess what? I'll say that. Because it's people like you who make me want to be more positive. It's responses like these that make me want to convince you that you don't have to just "drag on" through the rest of your life. You can live it and experience it and love it.
As for your friends, I agree completely. It's upsetting to me when I see people changing who they are and what they believe in for someone else. But if you have to give up your firmly held convictions for reasons other than being completely convinced that the other person's views are correct, I don't know that that's actually love.
You obviously love your friends and they trust you to help them out. That's wonderful. But does that make you think that you might just be capable of loving someone else just as much?
Don't get me wrong, I don't know from experience. I'm 18 years old and can't tell you what it's like to be in love with someone in the "silly, romantic sense." To be honest, I don't know that I want to know. But it's something to think about. Why put it completely out of the picture now? I hate to tell you, but you've probably got decades left. =)
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Likes this post, and the intelligent way in which you express your ideas. Also I mostly agree with you. But I am another one of these cynical and sarcastic people. Also pretty angry, misunderstood, etc.

Also Dothack, I know how you feel. My best friend who lives far away, and who I only talk to online, finally got friends in real life, and I constantly fear that he will stop caring about me eventually. I know he won't, he is like nobody I ever met, but I have a very hard time trusting people.
 
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MaryR

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eugenius said:
Likes this post, and the intelligent way in which you express your ideas. Also I mostly agree with you. But I am another one of these cynical and sarcastic people. Also pretty angry, misunderstood, etc.
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Well, thanks. =)
I guess it must be the group of us. All cynical and pessimistic.
Angry and misunderstood? I don't know if I'd put myself into that category. But I, like many people here, am more than happy to try to understand so you can take yourself out and move onto the "happy and understood" category!
 
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Maddog

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MaryR said:
Oh my. You are cynical. haha It's funny for me to say that because I thought I was about as cynical as it gets. It seems to me that you're cynical about more than just "love"... you're a bit cynical about life in general.
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That's a fair summation.

MaryR said:
Clearly, since I'm a bit younger I'm likely not the best to respond to this with something to the effect of "It just gets better as you get older. You just have to wait and see what God has in store for you." But guess what? I'll say that. Because it's people like you who make me want to be more positive. It's responses like these that make me want to convince you that you don't have to just "drag on" through the rest of your life. You can live it and experience it and love it.
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I was optimistic when I was your age as well. If you can keep that up then all the more power to you. However, don't be surprised when in a few years you find that life has just sapped it out of you.

MaryR said:
As for your friends, I agree completely. It's upsetting to me when I see people changing who they are and what they believe in for someone else. But if you have to give up your firmly held convictions for reasons other than being completely convinced that the other person's views are correct, I don't know that that's actually love.
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Not love love, I suppose it's just the infatuation part. But every high has its come-down.

MaryR said:
You obviously love your friends and they trust you to help them out. That's wonderful. But does that make you think that you might just be capable of loving someone else just as much?
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Anything's possible. But as long as I'm free from the grip of a woman I see no reason to willfully surrender myself to one. It's a bit like taking Es. I'm sure it feels very nice, but it's just a scene in which I have no particular interest.

MaryR said:
Don't get me wrong, I don't know from experience. I'm 18 years old and can't tell you what it's like to be in love with someone in the "silly, romantic sense." To be honest, I don't know that I want to know. But it's something to think about. Why put it completely out of the picture now?
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For me to consider courting, it would take a magnificent amount of some form of intoxication for me to be persuaded it was a good idea. And I'm talking intoxication way in excess of the time I got drunk and decided to to become a film producer so signed up for media studies at school. In other words, as long as I'm thinkng clearly it's just not going to happen.

I like to think I know a reasonable bit about myself, and I'm quite convinced that me and women don't mix. The fact that I'm a misogynist only perpetuates this incompatibility.

MaryR said:
I hate to tell you, but you've probably got decades left. =)
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Well, I suppose that gives me a bit more time to make sure I'm right with God.
 
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MaryR

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Maddog said:
That's a fair summation.


I was optimistic when I was your age as well. If you can keep that up then all the more power to you. However, don't be surprised when in a few years you find that life has just sapped it out of you.


Not love love, I suppose it's just the infatuation part. But every high has its come-down.


Anything's possible. But as long as I'm free from the grip of a woman I see no reason to willfully surrender myself to one. It's a bit like taking Es. I'm sure it feels very nice, but it's just a scene in which I have no particular interest.


For me to consider courting, it would take a magnificent amount of some form of intoxication for me to be persuaded it was a good idea. And I'm talking intoxication way in excess of the time I got drunk and decided to to become a film producer so signed up for media studies at school. In other words, as long as I'm thinkng clearly it's just not going to happen.

I like to think I know a reasonable bit about myself, and I'm quite convinced that me and women don't mix. The fact that I'm a misogynist only perpetuates this incompatibility.


Well, I suppose that gives me a bit more time to make sure I'm right with God.
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Wow. I feel like my argument was completely shot down. haha
I guess it's not for me to say whether or not you should want to love a woman. It's just my suggestion on your decidedly negative opinion. As for you being a misogynist, I would tend to agree. Most women probably wouldn't have any desire to be with someone who hated them. But what do I know? haha
Here's hoping you find what you're looking for. Whatever that is. =)
 
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Maddog

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MaryR said:
Wow. I feel like my argument was completely shot down. haha
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Haha, nah I'm just a miserable old git. Don't let my jaded perspective ruin things for you.

MaryR said:
I guess it's not for me to say whether or not you should want to love a woman. It's just my suggestion on your decidedly negative opinion.
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Most people I know believe it's normal to want to go off and one day get married etc. I don't think my position is negative, just neutral, in that I don't find myself automatically driven in that direction, which means that to get into the courting game would take a definite act of the will - but I simply can't see any incentive to do so.

MaryR said:
As for you being a misogynist, I would tend to agree. Most women probably wouldn't have any desire to be with someone who hated them. But what do I know? haha
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Maybe I don't really hate women. I think I've just never grown past the school yard boys versus girls feud stage. Women can be alright in small doses...I can usually get on with them, but I don't think I could handle one full time. They're irrational, prone to wild emotional outbursts, and when I see them with their friends being all giddy and silly it makes me want to slit my wrists. As well as that, I typically find them incredibly boring. I've had a few interesting conversations with one or two...but all the interesting stuff was said by me. We're just on different wavelengths.

MaryR said:
Here's hoping you find what you're looking for. Whatever that is. =)
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Whatever that is indeed. Not a clue at this end, love. All my ambitions have dried up and now I'm just waiting for the end (bar a few loose ends I need to sort out). I'd have probably done myself in by now if I didn't fear hell.

Still though, I hope your life goes okay.
 
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MaryR

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Maddog said:
Haha, nah I'm just a miserable old git. Don't let my jaded perspective ruin things for you.


Most people I know believe it's normal to want to go off and one day get married etc. I don't think my position is negative, just neutral, in that I don't find myself automatically driven in that direction, which means that to get into the courting game would take a definite act of the will - but I simply can't see any incentive to do so.


Maybe I don't really hate women. I think I've just never grown past the school yard boys versus girls feud stage. Women can be alright in small doses...I can usually get on with them, but I don't think I could handle one full time. They're irrational, prone to wild emotional outbursts, and when I see them with their friends being all giddy and silly it makes me want to slit my wrists. As well as that, I typically find them incredibly boring. I've had a few interesting conversations with one or two...but all the interesting stuff was said by me. We're just on different wavelengths.


Whatever that is indeed. Not a clue at this end, love. All my ambitions have dried up and now I'm just waiting for the end (bar a few loose ends I need to sort out). I'd have probably done myself in by now if I didn't fear hell.

Still though, I hope your life goes okay.
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I don't really know what to say. I think I'm getting your point. Or trying. haha
I like what you said about the interesting conversations. All the interesting stuff was said by you? haha Kind of made me laugh.
And I'd like to point out that not all women are "giddy and silly". Maybe some. Maybe most. But not all.
Anyway, I hope your life goes okay as well. As a matter of fact, I hope it goes wonderfully!
 
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NodMyHeadLikeYeah

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dothackzero said:
it feels like I'm being stabbed. Really, it's same when I seem the kissing and stuff. Is it like that for any of you guys too?
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Look, just put your hands over your ears close your eyes and yell 1..2..3.. WHAT THE HECK IS BOTHERING ME. yeah, it totally works
 
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