LGBT

[zeroturbulence]

What is your view on LGBT couples? Do you believe that any love is love or that a book determines what love really is? If you consider yourself heterosexual, how would you react if you found yourself attracted to a person of the same gender?
I'm asking out of curiosity, in Sweden the most christians are very accepting but I haven't ever spoken to an actual christian from any other country about these things.

First of all, I made a point not to read any of the replies because I'd rather not know who might be an angry anti-gay christian on here. God says it is the act which is an abomination to Him. I'm sure murder is something He despises as well yet Moses was a murderer before God appointed him as leader of His people. Paul tortured and killed christians too, but I digress..

I think there are definitely some people who can't help but be attracted to the same sex and for them it is going to be difficult to believe what the bible says. I think God sees the act of gay sex as a sin just like lying or adultery and therefore it is forgiveable even though one may fall into temptation over and over again... just like how some people fall into the sins of adultery and lying. Some people have a habit of stealing or even fornication with the opposite sex (which is also a sin), but these, along with the act of gay sex are all foregiveable and God does not stop loving these folks just because they keep falling into sin. I don't think we should shun gays just as we shouldn't shun drug addicts or alcoholics or those who have led a life of sin (as long as they continue to repent). We are all sinners after all. Gays are not any worse than the rest of us. Just because straight christians will never commit the act of gay sex does not mean we are somehow better. People against stealing may never steal but that doesn't mean they're better than someone who steals (and repents).

 

[Fenner]

What is your view on LGBT couples? Do you believe that any love is love or that a book determines what love really is? If you consider yourself heterosexual, how would you react if you found yourself attracted to a person of the same gender?
I'm asking out of curiosity, in Sweden the most christians are very accepting but I haven't ever spoken to an actual christian from any other country about these things.

I know I'll probably get flack for this, but it doesn't bother me. I have friends that are Lesbian/Gay, and I don't think much about it. I've never been attracted to someone of my gender, I don't know how I would react. Probably ignore it.

 

[NightRevan]

I have always found this to be a real difficult part to deal with, before I was a Christian I was right there saying why couldn't a committed relationship between two consenting adults be seen as ok, and what was so wrong with it. And since being a Christian I have always struggled with these verses, and how to integrate them and implement them properly and lovingly, but I always viewed that was what Scriptures said, and I could see why it was saying it, so I had to live with it and find a way to be welcoming but say the act was wrong. However I could never find the right balance, and it tended to always lead to sew-saws in me, I was either to condemning and unloving, or I felt I might be allowing it to much, in the end I parked the issue and decided I would if asked say this is the view of the Scriptures which I'm committed to, but otherwise I acted in love and compassion to all.

However, a recent work by James V Brownson, a moderate conservative Reformed NT scholar in his book Bible, Gender, Sexuality: Reframing the Church's Debate on Same-Sex Relationships, and some of the dialogue he has had back and forth with various other scholars and critics, has really made me think again. Seriously, I think it is something all should read, both it and the things on his blog, it has really changed not the Scriptures or what they say at all, but how we view it when it comes to specifically life-long equal, loving and committed relationships between homosexual people (that would be marriage or like it).

While I am aware of my bias that might draw me to quickly to embracing it, it is something I am thinking deeply and prayerfully about, as at the moment I can't see a flaw in his arguments (with particularity some further comments he actually gave to a respondent's criticisms, and how this works out in light of Romans). I won't say more on that, just leave a link, not to promote it, but to give people curious some idea (and to remind that he is not a 'liberal' NT scholar at all)

Bible, Gender, Sexuality - James V. Brownson : Eerdmans

So for myself, if asked now, particularly as regards a life-long commitment in marriage (for want of a better term) between two people in a homosexual relationship, I will honestly say at present I don't know it the Scriptures say anything against it, and indeed we can draw out principles to guide and embrace that aspect. At the moment I shall err on love as I prayerfully consider this man's arguments and hope God guides me to the truth the situation, but at present I am tentatively persuaded by it.

 

[spacefreak]

GOD made a couple to be one man and one women, GOD hates the sin but loves the person.

 

[ChosenbyHim]

What is your view on LGBT couples? Do you believe that any love is love or that a book determines what love really is? If you consider yourself heterosexual, how would you react if you found yourself attracted to a person of the same gender?
I'm asking out of curiosity, in Sweden the most christians are very accepting but I haven't ever spoken to an actual christian from any other country about these things.

Hi there PlainLo,

from the testimony of the Scriptures, LGBT "couples" are in sin and rebellion against the holy commandment and righteous of God Almighty.

Any so called "love" between two men or two women is a perverted type of "love." Sodomy leads to all types of sexual perversion.

And if a heterosexual feels that he is beginning to be attracted to the same sex, well then the immediate thing for him to do is to get control of his thought life. And then judge himself. We need to bring into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ. Now we know that that is not so easy to do. But it is something that we need to strive to get better at.

Sodomites and lesbians need to be told the truth in love. Their Sodomite lifestyle is an abomination. And I know there are sodomites out there who have pointed out the hypocrisy of some preachers, and I see their point. Their thinking is that: "If you are going to preach against Sodomy, then why not also preach against Adultery and Fornication."

Again, I do see their point. And I believe that is a valid one. While Sodomy is a vile sin that needs to be preached strongly against. I also believe that preachers need to start preaching against fornication and adultery also. Be consistent. Don't just preach on certain sins and then leave out others, but preach against all sin.


In other words, when a preacher preaches against sexual perversion, then he needs to preach against all types of sexual perversion.