Living in the safety bubble of hand sanitizer...Do you?

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1still_waters

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This is precisely why I don't use them.

I wash my hands after using the restroom. That's about it. I don't sanitize the heck out of every surface at home or at work unless there is food preparation involved - and even then there are varying degrees to which I'll clean a surface (I'll use something a lot stronger if I was handling raw poultry than I will if I was just chopping up some vegetables).

Whenever a soap is listed as antibacterial I usually ditch it in favor of one that isn't.
I have noticed germophobes tend to be sick often compared to non germophobes.
 

Roh_Chris

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I have noticed germophobes tend to be sick often compared to non germophobes.
There is a level of risk for even non-germaphobes to contract certain viruses. For example, conjunctivitis is a seasonal communicable disease. It mainly spreads through touch, for e.g. when an infected person touches his eye and then holds a door knob and a non-infected person touches the door knob and then his eye. Washing hands will also not keep one safe because the infected person may have used the same tap. In such cases, having a bottle of hand sanitizer helps.
 
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1still_waters

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There is a level of risk for even non-germaphobes to contract certain viruses. For example, conjunctivitis is a seasonal communicable disease. It mainly spreads through touch, for e.g. when an infected person touches his eye and then holds a door knob and a non-infected person touches the door knob and then his eye. Washing hands will also not keep one safe because the infected person may have used the same tap. In such cases, having a bottle of hand sanitizer helps.
What if you open the door with your eyes?
 
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Tintin

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I don't know that using sanitizers is a part of the cause of anti-biotic resistant bacteria, however (IMO) overuse will weaken your immunity system and even more so a child's. Our immunity systems (other than inherited traits) are predominantly a blank slate at birth. Our bodies learn what to kill off and what not to by exposure to different things in childhood years. I find it interesting that current research shows that kids raised in less sterile environments (rural, ag communities) are by far less likely to develop allergies and auto-immune disorders and that as our environments become increasingly sterile (anti-bacterial everything) auto-immune disorders are flourishing.
There has to be so much truth in this. I live in the city suburbs and I was raised in an environment where my brothers and I could develop strong immune systems. I have one allergy - bad hay fever in Spring. That's it. Whereas, some of my friends who grew up in the city or the city suburbs have weaker immune systems, as their bodies were exposed to incredibly hygenic environments (not the hyper-ridiculous of more recent years, but still it affected them). Some of them have numerous allergies. But still not as many allergies as kids and teenagers nowadays. Far out!
 

Fenner

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I only use it once and a while, it makes my skin dry.
 

Fenner

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they make different kinds with aloe and other oils...[/QUOT

I didn't know that. I work at a preschool of course we have it there. The kids always want to use it, I don't know what the big thrill is but I don't let them use it as much as they want. One year one child put almost a half bottle on her hands when we weren't paying attention.
 

seoulsearch

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This will shock some, as I tend to be a fairly neat, clean, and organized person, but I don't use any over-the-counter antibacterial products, nor do I carry hand sanitizer. I just wash my hands at all the appropriate times (before eating, at the restroom, after work, etc.) and try to only take the medications my doctor recommends, in any form, for all the reasons that Oncefallen has stated.

Vaccines introduce a small amount of what makes us sick so that our body will learn to fight it--I've always had the theory that if our body doesn't learn to fight anything, it will become dependent on artificial means. (That might be a bunch of baloney but it's what I've always theorized.) I don't get flu shots either, as they only protect you from a few strains, and I've known some people who became horribly sick after getting them. Not using sanitizer is also my small rebellion against having a relative who is extremely germophobic (as in, don't come near that person if you are not thoroughly sanitized from head to toe.) However, in their defense, that person also very rarely gets sick.

Up until about age 35 I could count on one hand how many times in my life I'd taken antibiotics, but unfortunately, I now seem to get The Sinus Infection of Death at least once a year, and all that knocks it out is a stream of anywhere from 1-3 different antibiotics.

Maybe I should have used that hand sanitizer after all.
 
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ServantStrike

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There is a level of risk for even non-germaphobes to contract certain viruses. For example, conjunctivitis is a seasonal communicable disease. It mainly spreads through touch, for e.g. when an infected person touches his eye and then holds a door knob and a non-infected person touches the door knob and then his eye. Washing hands will also not keep one safe because the infected person may have used the same tap. In such cases, having a bottle of hand sanitizer helps.
Generally I try not to touch my eyes for this reason, and I'll wash my hands before eating if I've handled any foreign surfaces. There is, of course, also an assessment of the level of risk involved in various situations. A hospital environment will cause me to wash my hands before eating after I've left, and I try to make it a point not to eat at hospitals (for a number of reasons including terrible food).


Like others have said though, I like to keep my immune system fighting the small stuff so that it's strong for the big stuff. I've never developed an allergy before in my life and in fact the one slight allergy I had has gone away on it's own (I had mild lactose intolerance).
 
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Tintin

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I don't use hand-sanitizer often but I sometimes use it, at school and when visiting hospitals etc. I especially needed to use it when I was relief teaching at a school. I was sitting at the teacher's desk and then a child threw up all over the desk and floor and I had to clean it up. I used a lot of hand-sanitizer during that process. It wasn't pretty.
 

zeroturbulence

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they make different kinds with aloe and other oils...[/QUOT

I didn't know that. I work at a preschool of course we have it there. The kids always want to use it, I don't know what the big thrill is but I don't let them use it as much as they want. One year one child put almost a half bottle on her hands when we weren't paying attention.
Ahh, so it's not just me! :D
 

zeroturbulence

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A word of caution......

DO NOT put sanitizer on a cut or sore!!


 
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1still_waters

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I don't use hand-sanitizer often but I sometimes use it, at school and when visiting hospitals etc. I especially needed to use it when I was relief teaching at a school. I was sitting at the teacher's desk and then a child threw up all over the desk and floor and I had to clean it up. I used a lot of hand-sanitizer during that process. It wasn't pretty.
Don't Aussies have their own personal kangaroo hand cleaning attendants? :p
 

Roh_Chris

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Generally I try not to touch my eyes for this reason, and I'll wash my hands before eating if I've handled any foreign surfaces. There is, of course, also an assessment of the level of risk involved in various situations. A hospital environment will cause me to wash my hands before eating after I've left, and I try to make it a point not to eat at hospitals (for a number of reasons including terrible food).
I think it depends on the environment. Plus, hand sanitizers come in handy when you don't have water to wash your hands. Let's say you're doing a long road-trip and you only have some water to drink. Having a hand sanitizer on standby means you don't need to use that little amount of water to wash your hands. :)
 

Lynx

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Seen on the wall of a motel:

Attention neat freaks:You are making the world TOO CLEAN! The human immune system needs exposure to some germs and dirt in order to build up immunities. That's why at this motel we proudly leave our rooms a little dirty. Staying a night in this motel room will give your system the filth it needs to stay healthy.
 

lil_christian

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Hand sanitizer may be one of the best mobile devices made next to the smart phone and tablet. How many of you carry a supply with you whereever you go?
I actually rarely use hand sanitizer. The alcohol in it just dries my hands up like crazy, and I'm not a fan of all the chemicals in it. However, I do have a very small one just in case I need it because sometimes there is no other option.
 
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1still_waters

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I actually rarely use hand sanitizer. The alcohol in it just dries my hands up like crazy, and I'm not a fan of all the chemicals in it. However, I do have a very small one just in case I need it because sometimes there is no other option.
Has it been tested by a certain homeopath for the proper distribution of germ destroying chemicals?I hear they have a little mantra they recite while operating their hand sanitizer xray device.

Oooga looga no no germs
Ooooga looga no no worms
Oooga looga be free of gross
Oooga looga destroy the most.

Right?