Makeup/Done up (Girls AND guys discussion)

[Ugly]

Questions for the males:
- What do you consider "done up"? What is too much, what is just enough (what would you find "acceptable")? Minimal is best. A little is fine. But even if they are too caught up in it and freak out at the idea of someone seeing them without it, then that's just annoying. I dated a woman who was like that and it left me in a bad spot a time or two.
- When you see a girl with "too much" makeup on, what are your first thoughts? If she is not wearing any at all, what are your first thoughts? Well, i've noticed the girls most prone to this are the ones who are naturally pretty by modern standards. Then i wonder why they had to hide their face and how much better they would look if they used Less.
- What occassions are "okay" to be done up for? A situation where it would make sense to dress up more, i can see using a bit extra. But still not a lot

For both:
- What do you think society/culture says about women and the expectation of makeup? As a guy, i don't have much experience in that effect. I only know what i hear from women. But my understanding of it all is that the real problem is not the people selling the image, but that women are believing they are powerless to fight the image of models/actresses etc.. Women feeling that they 'have to' look certain ways to 'get a man'. Rather than believing that if the man they get won't notice them without the makeup and image then he's not worth having anyways. Rather than going after the corporations that promote these ideas, educate women. Once women learn, and change, the natural progression will require the companies change to suit the customers, not the other way around.
- A friend of mine said that the quote "Guys like girls to go all natural, no makeup" actually means "they like already naturally pretty girls". Thoughts on this? This is a two fold answer. If you read the intents of the statement its a load of crap. If you read the words of the statement its fact. Yes, men do like naturally pretty girls. But the idea of the statement is that guys who like women that wear little or no makeup only go after beautiful women, by cultural standards. Essentially saying that men like that are no different than men who prefer lots of makeup. Not true. As a guy who prefers little to no makeup, i have found that the prettier the girl is by cultural standards the more likely she is to wear makeup. Thereby making her less appealing, in a sense. When i am attracted to a woman that wears little makeup its because i'm seeking someone I find attractive from my own perceptions. And that i'm not requiring a Barbie Doll. Its because without the makeup i can see who i really find attractive for what they look like, not what they try to present. I think the less makeup issue is speaks more to the TYPE of woman a guy prefers, than the visual aspect.

I have spoken.

 

[Isdaniel]

This is why I wear make-up.
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Now that that's clear... lol

Yes I wear make-up . I wear it because I feel prettier that way.
No I don't always wear it , but most of the time I do.
The last time I got "hit on" was at a dollar store near my house and I had no make up on...so yes... I go places without makeup sometimes.
I agree with the " if you don't recognize her without it " answer.... that is too much and should be toned down.

you wear because society has it so you should look at picture where women do not wear make its mind blowing

 

[ServantStrike]

This is why I wear make-up.
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Now that that's clear... lol

Yes I wear make-up . I wear it because I feel prettier that way.
No I don't always wear it , but most of the time I do.
The last time I got "hit on" was at a dollar store near my house and I had no make up on...so yes... I go places without makeup sometimes.
I agree with the " if you don't recognize her without it " answer.... that is too much and should be toned down.

I see a beautiful woman in that picture.

 

[ServantStrike]

In my opinion, I thought the questions were pretty neutral. Rachel just simply asked what they thought, not on what they think women should do, though sometimes those two things overlap.

I think if a guy isn't satisfied with the way a girl looks, then they simply don't date her. I don't know that for sure, and I know for a fact that's not always the case. But one would think that a guy, even a girl, would have the sense to not date someone if they're not satisfied with their looks, because it might eventually lead to them trying to convince them to try this, or do that. Go to the gym with me, or try this toothpaste, it whitens your teeth.


(Just a heads up, this is all hypothetical. I could be completely wrong, and do tell if I am.)

No, I think you're dead on, it's just another version of missionary dating.

If you're dating someone thinking you can change them - just don't. It's going to end badly.



As for the makeup thing, I do not feel that I can really make a determination of how much is too much, or not enough. I will chime in and say that I was also was one of the guys who chimed in and agreed though that there is such a thing as too much. I have seen it used to the point where it goes every where, which is kind of icky. I think most women have the common sense not to do that though.

And now comes the point in time where I sound like a dirty hippy and/or an overly effeminate man. I know quite a bit about what goes into cosmetics - more than a lot of women, which confuses me as I don't even use them.

I'm not so hung up on how much of it is used as I am concerned about what is in it. The FDA has recently cracked down on companies making anti-aging claims - many have run afoul of consumer protection laws by making exaggerated claims without clinical studies to back them up. Additionally, much of the anti-aging stuff out there in fact consists of weak acids, which strip off the outer layer of epidermis - making you look younger but also opening you up to increased UV radiation and skin cancer.

Shredded rubber (from tires) is a common ingredient in a lot of cosmetics. I know I wouldn't want to put it on my face, but I have talked to women who do not care what is in that magic product as long as they feel that they are getting some benefit from it.

And I think while many women wear make up because while they feel obligated to, I know that many also just enjoy wearing it. And I think can somewhat relate to that - I make my own deodorant and hair care products because I find the process enjoyable (and side benefit, I can eat the stuff its so non toxic).



So yeah, I just advocate people make informed decisions as to what's in whatever they chose to use.

 

[Pipp]

I see a beautiful woman in that picture.

Thank you very much

 

[Ugly]

Honestly, I feel a bit 'ericked' (I think I just made up that word) with the questions posed to males about what is 'acceptable' or 'okay' occasions to wear make-up. (Not towards towards Rachel, but the questions). No man has say on how acceptable something I wear is. It's like a man telling me that it's unacceptable for me to wear my hair in ponytail because he prefers it down. I have the good sense on how to dress properly. Maybe it's an Infp thing, but it's a way I can express my individuality, I would feel as if a man was impeding on my individuality and creativity. And to be honest, I rather be single then be constraint by a man's personal preference.

The question is a question seeking opinion. A man is entitled to his opinions on the matter in light of his personal preferences. The problem is not the question, but you are hyper-focusing on the wording and missing the general idea.
And lets face it, you take that tone about the idea, but its a long running joke, often based in fact, that women have a tendency to try to dictate how guys look. Picking out their clothes and hair styles. Its not that uncommon. So why is it acceptable for a woman to tell a man how he should dress to 'look acceptable' or 'decent' or whatever, but if a man attempts that same attitude on a woman its considered impeding on her?

 

[Isdaniel]

Thank you very much

do you think Eve wear make up ?

Do you think we will wear make up in the kingdom ?

 

[error]

Questions for the females:
- Do you wear makeup? Why or why not? If you don't, do you wear it for special occasions or not at all?

I don't wear makeup (daily). I don't like to wear it. It makes me feel like I'm wearing a mask or something. Anyway, I just don't feel comfortable wearing makeup every day. + it saves lots of time for me in the morning. I wear it for special occasions tho. Sometimes it is nice to feel and look very good.

- Do you feel comfortable going out in public without makeup? Why or why not?

Yes. Well -> cause that's how I look. Do you like it or not - your problem, not mine.

 

[Pipp]

No of course I don't think Eve wore makeup because there wasn't such a thing. And no I don't think we will in Heaven seeing as we will be in a glorified body. Like I said... I wear what I wear to make myself feel better. Could I live without it , most definitely... but I don't think I wear enough to be a hindrance to anyone.

 

[ServantStrike]

Thank you very much

You're welcome!

 

[error]

Sorry, my dear. That didn't clarify anything, because all I see is a beautiful woman

I agree. She looks nice.

 

[Ugly]

you wear because society has it so you should look at picture where women do not wear make its mind blowing

Perhaps rather than informing people you don't know why they do things, you should consider talking less and listening more. Better to keep your mouth shut and let everyone think you're a fool than to open your mouth and prove it.

 

[Ugly]

I wear light make-up that's pretty natural looking, simply because my eyelashes are almost completely clear. The key to make-up (for me) is to look like I don't actually have any on, unless I'm going somewhere special.

We have roves of "beauty pageant" girls and women in my area who literally look like they are wearing stage make-up and hair, ALL of the time. They are often beautiful, though they do look high-maintenance. I'm wondering if it's a southern culture thing.

It does seem to be a southern culture issue to do the overly made up thing. That's my single biggest complaint about southern women. That and any who are rednecks.

 

[Pipp]

It does seem to be a southern culture issue to do the overly made up thing. That's my single biggest complaint about southern women. That and any who are rednecks.

What no Honey Boo Boo kinda woman for you ???

 

[arwen83]

The question is a question seeking opinion. A man is entitled to his opinions on the matter in light of his personal preferences. The problem is not the question, but you are hyper-focusing on the wording and missing the general idea.
And lets face it, you take that tone about the idea, but its a long running joke, often based in fact, that women have a tendency to try to dictate how guys look. Picking out their clothes and hair styles. Its not that uncommon. So why is it acceptable for a woman to tell a man how he should dress to 'look acceptable' or 'decent' or whatever, but if a man attempts that same attitude on a woman its considered impeding on her?

I respect your reply Ugly I haven't heard men complaining if their wife tells a man to dress a certain way that it was impeding on their individuality. Maybe others know of some? The whole feeling impeded thing might just be me *shrugs*

 

[rachelsedge]

I don't know if we can throw in the "It won't be in Heaven so why do it here" argument, because there are a lot of things that won't be in heaven that are encouraged here on earth, such as showering, brushing teeth, etc.

I find it interesting that what is projected in society of what's expected of a woman is not what men seem to truly like.

Pipp, you are beautiful with and without makeup. I feel like I look a bit manly without makeup, though that's probably my own perception and not the truth.

"If the only beauty you have can be washed away at the end of the day, then you are pursuing the wrong type of beauty." It's okay to wear makeup, and it's even okay to feel pretty with it on, but if that's the only thing that makes us feel beautiful, then we need to learn more about what God says is beautiful and embrace that.

 

[Pipp]

Thank you Rachel .. You are a beautiful lady too. I love that last quote ...very good stuff

 

[ServantStrike]

I don't know if we can throw in the "It won't be in Heaven so why do it here" argument, because there are a lot of things that won't be in heaven that are encouraged here on earth, such as showering, brushing teeth, etc.

I find it interesting that what is projected in society of what's expected of a woman is not what men seem to truly like.

Pipp, you are beautiful with and without makeup. I feel like I look a bit manly without makeup, though that's probably my own perception and not the truth.

"If the only beauty you have can be washed away at the end of the day, then you are pursuing the wrong type of beauty." It's okay to wear makeup, and it's even okay to feel pretty with it on, but if that's the only thing that makes us feel beautiful, then we need to learn more about what God says is beautiful and embrace that.

I look a bit manly without make up too!

Which is why I don't wear it .

 

[Relena7]

The question is a question seeking opinion. A man is entitled to his opinions on the matter in light of his personal preferences. The problem is not the question, but you are hyper-focusing on the wording and missing the general idea.
And lets face it, you take that tone about the idea, but its a long running joke, often based in fact, that women have a tendency to try to dictate how guys look. Picking out their clothes and hair styles. Its not that uncommon. So why is it acceptable for a woman to tell a man how he should dress to 'look acceptable' or 'decent' or whatever, but if a man attempts that same attitude on a woman its considered impeding on her?

It's not more acceptable for one gender than the other. Some people are just more sensitive to it than others. No big deal.

(I see you are a fan of cake wrecks too. I remember that scary meatloaf baby. O_O)

 

[Relena7]

I don't wear any makeup, but I probably should. If a typical woman had my skin, she'd wear makeup nonstop to hide the freckles, and the uneven cheek reddness due to birthmarks. But I don't wear it cause I'm lazy.

One time an old woman in a store saw my birthmark and asked me if someone hit me. Another time a doctor asked me about my skin because to her it looked like what some people get when they have a certain vitamin overdose. I had to tell her it was only a birthmark, lol. So yeah... I could probably do with some skin tone evener (haha I don't even know what it is called), but I don't really care. That powdery stuff is bad for your skin anyway, and I hear it makes you age faster in the long run. I have an oily complexion so the last thing I need is a layer of powder on top of that.


(this is possibly the most girly sounding post I've posted yet)

Oh yeah, and I do nothing with my hair. Other than the occasional ponytail to stop it from getting in my mouth.