Makeup/Done up (Girls AND guys discussion)

[rachelsedge]

Liamson and Donkeyfish's posts inspired me to make a thread about this.

This actually brings me to an interesting dilemma.

Single women, "Do Up" their face and hair, making them less attractive.

Ha ha, I've noticed that myself. There's exceptions to this rule, it actually does help some girls but very very rarely. 99% of them it doesn't though. What I think is funny is that of all the ladies reading this.....I bet most of them thought

"I'm one of the 1% that actually looks better with it on".

But no, no your not .....this is the very problem we speak of

I'm not calling them out (so hopefully you guys don't feel that way ), but rather wanted to expand on this and get perspectives.

*This is NOT a thread about whether being done up or wearing makeup is "moral" or whether or not it is "Biblical" so please don't turn it into that*

This thread is also not to bash or put down those who do wear what you would consider to be too much or not enough. Please be courteous.

Questions for the males:
- What do you consider "done up"? What is too much, what is just enough (what would you find "acceptable")?
- When you see a girl with "too much" makeup on, what are your first thoughts? If she is not wearing any at all, what are your first thoughts?
- What occassions are "okay" to be done up for?

Questions for the females:
- Do you wear makeup? Why or why not? If you don't, do you wear it for special occasions or not at all?
- Do you feel comfortable going out in public without makeup? Why or why not?
- What do you think is "too much" makeup?
- How do you feel when you get "done up"?

For both:
- What do you think society/culture says about women and the expectation of makeup?
- A friend of mine said that the quote "Guys like girls to go all natural, no makeup" actually means "they like already naturally pretty girls". Thoughts on this?

I'm hoping we can gain some insight as to what those of our own gender think as well as the other gender.

 

[Fenner]

I do wear makeup, not everyday. Sometimes, my makeup is very modest. If I am going to a wedding or special occasion, I will maybe wear eyeliner. But it's definitely not heavy. I try to wear minimal makeup because I feel to much is not a good thing.

When I dress up and look nice, hair done, nice outfit, makeup on, I feel good.

 

[rainin]

I wore make up when I was younger but not a lot. It has probably been over 25 years since I have worn any. I don't even own any makeup. It doesn't look so good on older skin in my opinion....at least not mine. I can't say that it made me feel any different one way or the other to wear it. When I see a woman with heavy makeup on it makes me think she has some issues about the way she looks. When I see a man with makeup on it just makes me wonder.

 

[lil_christian]

Questions for the females:
- Do you wear makeup? Why or why not? If you don't, do you wear it for special occasions or not at all?

Nope, I don't wear makeup. I don't have time for it, don't feel a need for it. I used to wear it on special occasions, then I was just like, "...Eh." Plus, when your eye itches, and you forget you have mascara on....hello, there, raccoon eye!!

- Do you feel comfortable going out in public without makeup? Why or why not?

As long as I have someone review how I look "done up" and they say, "Hey, lookin' good!" then yeah, I feel fine. But not confident. But I don't feel confident with or without makeup (it's not an "OMG, I'm so ugly." thing. I just think I'm very average as far as looks go. Good height, decent skin, on the chunky side, though. I don't look down on myself, but I'm not all like, "Who's that gorgeous girl in the mirror?? Oh, that's right. Me!").

- What do you think is "too much" makeup?

When people don't recognize you without it, or if you have to take a picture of yourself on Facebook to remind people how you look without makeup (I'm lookin' at you, girls, who take "selfies" 7 times a day, with all the crazy bronzing stuff, foundation, falsies mascara, and shimmery eyeshadow.).

Natural looking makeup is fine, honestly. But putting on a ton of it is just a cheap escape (sometimes it's not even cheap), to make themselves feel beautiful, until they take it off at the end of the day, because they think they look plain without it.

I think I answered the last question already? So not gonna answer it.

For both:
- What do you think society/culture says about women and the expectation of makeup?
- A friend of mine said that the quote "Guys like girls to go all natural, no makeup" actually means "they like already naturally pretty girls". Thoughts on this?

Our culture is a fickle one. They say, "Don't change, you're beautiful." Then Hollywood or commercials on TV says, "You'll end up the crazy cat lady if you don't wear makeup, don't have a certain facial structure, have nerdy glasses, and are overweight."

And some guys can be just as double-sided (SOME being the keyword here. ). They'll say, "Yeah, I'd date a girl who doesn't wear make up... ... ...



...if they can look as hot as a movie star without it."

I'd like to think, though, that a lot of guys would like a girl just the way they are, with or without makeup. Though, in my home church's youth group, most of the girls that have boyfriends do wear makeup and stylish clothing (I don't wear makeup, or the latest clothing).

 

[MissCris]

Questions for the females:
- Do you wear makeup? Why or why not? If you don't, do you wear it for special occasions or not at all?
I wear eye makeup only- eyeliner, eyeshadow, mascara. Because I like to. I have times where I feel insecure about how I look without that stuff, but mostly, I don't put it on because I think I need it, but because I enjoy it- from applying it, to trying different colors/looks...I just like it.

- Do you feel comfortable going out in public without makeup? Why or why not?
I'm totally fine going pretty much anywhere without makeup. I know, I'm married, so maybe that changes how I feel about it as I'm not trying to catch anyone's eye or anything...but I honestly don't think it makes a difference; single or married, I've always been fine with or without makeup on in public. I don't put the stuff on for other people.

- What do you think is "too much" makeup?
Caked on, need a chisel to remove it all...yeah. Also, when someone wears so much makeup normally that you see them one time without it and don't even recognize them...yes, waaay too much.

- How do you feel when you get "done up"?
Pretty and feminine. But then, I can feel that way without being "done up" as well. It's a matter of how you see yourself, I think, to an extent.


For both:
- What do you think society/culture says about women and the expectation of makeup?
Basically that no woman is good enough on her own, in her natural state- every single aspect of a woman's body is subject to judgment by society. Hair should be fashionable. Face should be done up a certain way. Body must be thin and free of flaws. Clothing must be the latest style. It's...too much for any woman. The best thing for girls and women to do is avoid fashion magazines and most media. Seriously. Ignore that crap, and be you.

- A friend of mine said that the quote "Guys like girls to go all natural, no makeup" actually means "they like already naturally pretty girls". Thoughts on this?
There are a lot of guys who do prefer that, and a lot of guys who don't. There are guys who don't care either way.
I think every girl is naturally pretty. I also think that not every guy is going to find every girl attractive, with or without makeup. This takes us into personal preference and we all know it's sinful to have preferences and be attracted to anyone for any physical reason...

 

[lil_christian]

Also... I've heard that makeup ages skin and clogs pores, irritate acne (especially in teenagers), which makes it spread and even redder, and the chemicals that they put in some of the makeup and in the makeup removal things dry out your skin. Just some food for thought.

 

[AAAPlus]

Questions for the males:
- What do you consider "done up"? What is too much, what is just enough (what would you find "acceptable")?

For most girls, I think some light foundation is sufficient. Some eyeliners and light mascara (the stuff on the eyelashes) is acceptable as well. Eye shadow, lipstick, gloss, glitter, nail polish, etc just make a girl look more artificial, and thereby less attractive.

- When you see a girl with "too much" makeup on, what are your first thoughts?

I just think "you don't need it!"

- What occassions are "okay" to be done up for?

Formal events


For both:
- What do you think society/culture says about women and the expectation of makeup?

Our society says that the most important thing for a girl is to be good looking. This gets ingrained into the minds of girls on a subconscious level, to the point where many don't even feel like human beings before they have "prettied-up". So it becomes a competition to look better than other girls, or the best that they can, and makeup is a way to stand out. Many girls just learn from other girls that makeup makes them look beautiful, and who doesn't want to look beautiful?

- A friend of mine said that the quote "Guys like girls to go all natural, no makeup" actually means "they like already naturally pretty girls". Thoughts on this?

Trying not to be blunt on this one, but has anyone ever heard the term "butter face"? I won't go into detail about that term, but what it's NOT referring to is a girl who can't figure out how to use makeup. A girl may be "naturally pretty" or she may not be, but tons of makeup isn't going to help much (if at all). In fact, I've seen it quite the opposite many times; a girl normally wears it, and the day she wears less is when she starts turning heads.

 

[Liamson]

Lots of makeup = Lots of Maintenance. <first impression.>

I feel like, if there is crunch levels of hairspray involved then its "Done Up"




But there is a deeper issue.... (Is this my tagline?)

Take the movie The Breakfast Club or Ugly Betty, Le Destin de Lisa, Verliebt in Berlin or Betty la Fea. The storyline is that girls are somehow flawed as they are, and require a little makeup and dressing to blossom. And after they blossom the world bubbles over with attention and affection for them.


In reality, this is not the case.

Casual....

Post-Makeover....

Both Are Christina Aguilera.



As far as makeup goes, less is more.

 

[arwen83]

I wear make up, it's just a matter of knowing how to put it on and how much is too much. I don't wear it for guys but I like playing with colors and accenting the clothes I wear. It's an art. I have worn very little make up or none at all and I still got a boyfriend. I like how I look better with make up, just a preference. If a guy told me that I look better without make up, I would probably continue to wear it regardless. You guys have seen photos of me on here, I believe I wear the right amount.

 

[arwen83]

Honestly, I feel a bit 'ericked' (I think I just made up that word) with the questions posed to males about what is 'acceptable' or 'okay' occasions to wear make-up. (Not towards towards Rachel, but the questions). No man has say on how acceptable something I wear is. It's like a man telling me that it's unacceptable for me to wear my hair in ponytail because he prefers it down. I have the good sense on how to dress properly. Maybe it's an Infp thing, but it's a way I can express my individuality, I would feel as if a man was impeding on my individuality and creativity. And to be honest, I rather be single then be constraint by a man's personal preference.

 

[Liamson]

Honestly, I feel a bit 'ericked' (I think I just made up that word) with the questions posed to males about what is 'acceptable' or 'okay' occasions to wear make-up. (Not towards towards Rachel, but the questions). No man has say on how acceptable something I wear is. It's like a man telling me that it's unacceptable for me to wear my hair in ponytail because he prefers it down. I have the good sense on how to dress properly. Maybe it's an Infp thing, but it's a way I can express my individuality, I would feel as if a man was impeding on my individuality and creativity. And to be honest, I rather be single then be constraint by a man's personal preference.

We already know women dress for each other. It only seems logical that makeup would follow suit. (literally)

But who knows, maybe I'll be 50 and single because I never let a woman pick out a shirt for me.
(totally false, it happens all the time in a relationship)

 

[rachelsedge]

Honestly, I feel a bit 'ericked' (I think I just made up that word) with the questions posed to males about what is 'acceptable' or 'okay' occasions to wear make-up. (Not towards towards Rachel, but the questions). No man has say on how acceptable something I wear is. It's like a man telling me that it's unacceptable for me to wear my hair in ponytail because he prefers it down. I have the good sense on how to dress properly. Maybe it's an Infp thing, but it's a way I can express my individuality, I would feel as if a man was impeding on my individuality and creativity. And to be honest, I rather be single then be constraint by a man's personal preference.

I think the word is "irked".

I understand what you're saying, but I phrased it that way because you always hear "That's too much makeup", so I was posing the "Well then, what is an 'acceptable' amount to you?" part of it. Hopefully that clarifies it a bit.

I'm like you, if a guy told me he liked me better without makeup, I'd still probably wear it, not to spite him but because I like wearing it and I don't believe I wear too much. If he demanded that I wear less makeup, then I'm not sure our relationship would work out. I'm not to be micromanaged like that.

 

[arwen83]

We already know women dress for each other. It only seems logical that makeup would follow suit. (literally)

But who knows, maybe I'll be 50 and single because I never let a woman pick out a shirt for me.

How do you know that women dress for each other? I don't. I dress up because it's a way to express myself. I mentioned on here before that if I saw a lady in a nice outfit or had her makeup or hair done nicely, I think how complimentary it is, or how the colors look great on her, or it gives me ideas on how I might want to dress- not out of jealousy but that it sincerely looks good. And good for her!

 

[lil_christian]

In my opinion, I thought the questions were pretty neutral. Rachel just simply asked what they thought, not on what they think women should do, though sometimes those two things overlap.

I think if a guy isn't satisfied with the way a girl looks, then they simply don't date her. I don't know that for sure, and I know for a fact that's not always the case. But one would think that a guy, even a girl, would have the sense to not date someone if they're not satisfied with their looks, because it might eventually lead to them trying to convince them to try this, or do that. Go to the gym with me, or try this toothpaste, it whitens your teeth.


(Just a heads up, this is all hypothetical. I could be completely wrong, and do tell if I am.)

 

[Pipp]

This is why I wear make-up.


Now that that's clear... lol

Yes I wear make-up . I wear it because I feel prettier that way.
No I don't always wear it , but most of the time I do.
The last time I got "hit on" was at a dollar store near my house and I had no make up on...so yes... I go places without makeup sometimes.
I agree with the " if you don't recognize her without it " answer.... that is too much and should be toned down.

 

[Loveneverfails]

This is why I wear make-up.
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Now that that's clear... lol

Sorry, my dear. That didn't clarify anything, because all I see is a beautiful woman

 

[Pipp]

Thank you All I see is Casper the friendly ghost... with a blackish brown wig on

 

[Loveneverfails]

o.o if that's Casper with a wig on then I've never seen Casper look so good before

Get yo vision checked woman! I see great skin and STUNNING eyes. Natural beauty.

 

[Grace-Like-Rain]

I wear light make-up that's pretty natural looking, simply because my eyelashes are almost completely clear. The key to make-up (for me) is to look like I don't actually have any on, unless I'm going somewhere special.

We have roves of "beauty pageant" girls and women in my area who literally look like they are wearing stage make-up and hair, ALL of the time. They are often beautiful, though they do look high-maintenance. I'm wondering if it's a southern culture thing.

 

[Isdaniel]

i wonder if there will be a beauty shop in God kingdom

Jist a thought