Whew! I came back from the bible discussion forum and saw our man cave thread at the top of the heap and , I, for sure, for sure, for sure, thought a woman would be the one there, but it was maxwell, OH, WAIT, what's that, I mean, sorry, rel, who's that who just got in here, again. This is JUST not working out !!! Oh, wait, just a figment of my imagination, I see now, whew!