monkey business

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Jullianna

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I was reading a post a few minutes ago where a very precious lady had been made to feel as though she was being deceitful if she did not tell a guy straight up that she did not believe in having sex before marriage, and a huge question mark formed in my mind...


[video=youtube;bflZhokvYl4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bflZhokvYl4[/video]


It has not been many years ago that purity was treasured in a lady, even by those who were not Christians. I personally think most people still admire and respect it on some level, no matter what they say.

Apparently sometime after the "sexual revolution" of the 60s "free love" became a dating expectation, huh? So, I'm thinking...for over 5000 years it was NOT the norm to expect sex outside of marriage, and now Christians who choose to honor the Lord by remaining sexually pure are made to feel deceitful if they don't disclose this immediately? That's................................sad.

This is further evidence that evolution is not a real thing folks. If it were, an expectation that we should all be running around mating like monkeys would be evidence that it has been working in reverse for about 50+ years now... (Please read those two sentences verrrrrrrrrrrry carefully before chasing rabbits. :) )

We are men and women of God, not monkeys. NEVER allow society to make you feel as if choosing to be sexually pure is a personal flaw. It is society's expectation that is flawed, Beloved, not you. :) The children of God were given dominion over the animal kingdom in Genesis. Remember that. :)
 
Ritter

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There is a certain reason why society's expectation exists though.

Sure, being chase was once considered a standard to be followed and to a point where people expected it out of others. However, people generally remained virgins for a shorter amount of time than they do today.

By this I mean marriage was much more common at younger ages because people got their lives together faster. They didn't have to dance around an rather oppressive system of credentials to get to the point where supporting one-another and starting a family were possible.

Adolescence extends into the thirties by some measures. Well past puberty. By the time the average American male marries (27 and getting higher), he will have gone through 12 years of sexual urges, cresting between ages 16 and 19 (if I remember my health class notes correctly).

In short, people expect sexual activity at ages they used to expect it. The social conditions have change. Just as the Spartan society encouraged theft by forcing young men to steal their food, so have we encouraged unchaste activity not only by shattering the airwaves with it, but also making it extremely difficult for people to control their urges by extending childhood.

Does this absolve people of their sin? No. Sex before marriage is wrong, always has been wrong, and always will be wrong. We are called to remain righteous even through times that test our devotion to Christ.

Just showing that there is another component at work here.
 
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Stuey

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Might help weed out the undesirable partners pretty quickly...
 
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ptlman

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It is definitely the norm to be sexually active. The day before I got out of prison the questions I was asked the most was: what was the 1st thing I was going to eat and was I going "to get some". I have been out almost 4 months and haven't even been on a date, kissed a woman, held a womans hand, got a phone number, or really had a deep conversation.What our convictions r will lead us in how to react to people and situations. I am going to stay pure til marriage.
 
Liamson

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I have a "sister", that I have always known. She is the closest thing to a girl I have felt no possibility of relationship, yet I am very protective of her.

We have, since we were little, done seemingly everything together. I dated her older sister after high school and she has often come to me for advice about her own relationships as have I turned to her in my own. She and I have spent not a great amount of time together but, the time we do spend is meaningful, her family is my family and my family is hers as well.



Learning from the Mistakes of one of my last relationships, I went to God and fasted for 3 or 4 days. I prayed that He would guide my heart and show me how I need to grow. And He showed me that the only way I will ever know true love is when I treat the woman I would spend the rest of my life with, as I have treated my sister. She is My God's treasure and worth more than any treasure in this world. I have immeasurable respect and value for her innocence and her virtue. If anyone should steal that in any way, I would be distraught and feel as though I had failed her.

God showed me that, this perspective extends to all of his daughters. That I should value in them the virtue that I value in my sister, for they are forgiven and He does not count against them any wrong. It is my right to guard this in each as I would for my own family.

For in the end it is not anyone else's choices that I fear, rather it is myself that is bound to this. It is my own accountability, honor, and choices that determine the course of my life. The Lord is faithful, and I am the one who is in need of a shepherd.


To really love is to love like children, with a knowledge of only what is innocent and good. It is treasuring each thing without selfishness or consideration for gain. It is without want or expectation. It is without physical desire or pride. It seeks the highest good and believes in the possibility of achieving it.


This is my aim. Everything else in an accessory.
 
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Jullianna

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Ritter said:
There is a certain reason why society's expectation exists though.

Sure, being chase was once considered a standard to be followed and to a point where people expected it out of others. However, people generally remained virgins for a shorter amount of time than they do today.

By this I mean marriage was much more common at younger ages because people got their lives together faster. They didn't have to dance around an rather oppressive system of credentials to get to the point where supporting one-another and starting a family were possible.

Adolescence extends into the thirties by some measures. Well past puberty. By the time the average American male marries (27 and getting higher), he will have gone through 12 years of sexual urges, cresting between ages 16 and 19 (if I remember my health class notes correctly).

In short, people expect sexual activity at ages they used to expect it. The social conditions have change. Just as the Spartan society encouraged theft by forcing young men to steal their food, so have we encouraged unchaste activity not only by shattering the airwaves with it, but also making it extremely difficult for people to control their urges by extending childhood.

Does this absolve people of their sin? No. Sex before marriage is wrong, always has been wrong, and always will be wrong. We are called to remain righteous even through times that test our devotion to Christ.

Just showing that there is another component at work here.
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I'm glad you included that part about it still not being okay or I'd have to break out the water balloons. :) I'm 40 and unmarried, and it's still not okay. :)

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Oncefallen

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Jullianna said:
I'm glad you included that part about it still not being okay or I'd have to break out the water balloons. :) I'm 40 and unmarried, and it's still not okay. :)
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Yeah, but at our age we don't have those urges anymore. :rolleyes::rolleyes:






Or at least that seems to be the opinion of many of the youngsters.
 
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Jullianna

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Oncefallen said:
Yeah, but at our age we don't have those urges anymore. :rolleyes::rolleyes:


Or at least that seems to be the opinion of many of the youngsters.
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Hahahahahahah....yeah...right :rolleyes:
 
Liamson

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Are you saying the urge to throw water balloons doesn't go away?

I haven't seen anyone your age do that ever.
 
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Jullianna

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The urge for a woman to throw water balloons peaks at 40. I understand that it's 19 for men. :)
 
zeroturbulence

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Is that what they're calling it now? Throwing water balloons?? Makes sense I guess.
 
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ptlman

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Good unadulterated water balloon throwing is good at any age!!!!!!!:p
 
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