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MissCris

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So- my main goal right Now is to establish a small group of reliable people both online and here in person who can help me with the things mentioned. I'm all too aware of my complete lack of know-how in some of these areas- as my mom put it, I am basically a catalyst for others who DO have the skills and brains this thing needs to come together.

So that's my first and most important goal right now.

As as soon as I figure out the main focus of this (working on it!) then I can do a Facebook page with a specific description of what "we" do.

When I figure out that part, then I can work with gypsygirl on the marketing aspect of it. I think. I think this is the right order. But I'll need to be able to "sell" this idea to other organizations and businesses, so the advertising of it is crucial to it's success.

And now my brain is totally wiped out for the day, but if there's anyone else with thoughts on this, pleeease, I'm all ears :)

oh! Hellooo, those are good points- I'll come back to your post in the morning with a clearer head :)
 

Nautilus

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I know when I was struggling in the past having to make bills meet and barely succeeding on that the one thing I really wished I had access to, was transportation. At the time I was in a small wide-spread town with no public transportation system and doing anything was a hassle and near impossible.
 
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StoneThrower

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The kind of help I wish was available just isn't. I'm talking some kind of group, a network, of other single parents who can actually step in to HELP each other; that could be anything- babysitting, helping with transportation or car repairs, bringing someone groceries, helping someone move, just answering the phone if someone needs to talk in the middle of the night, prayer groups, Bible studies....basically I'm thinking free, immediate support or assistance, available 24/7.
No Offense, but its called a church. All these things babysitting, helping with transportation or car repairs, bringing someone groceries, helping someone move, just answering the phone if someone needs to talk in the middle of the night, prayer groups, Bible studies A church can assit in all these and should be, and the person dosent need to be single thats assisting, in fact an expirenced parent or grandparent is even better. Married people can relate to lonliness as well. Our church does all of these things. Outside groups are fine but why deny the church you are a part of the chance to minister as it should? I'd feel much safer having someone in the church I have a realtionship with watching my kids than someone outside I just met.
 
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StoneThrower

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just answering the phone if someone needs to talk in the middle of the night, prayer groups, Bible
Another plug for the church, those late night counseling sessions should be with someone that knows Gods word and how to apply it correctly as you want to take every thought capitive by the word of God. I would take your idea to your pastor and let him assit you and your church in your ministry plans.
 
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MissCris

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No Offense, but its called a church. All these things babysitting, helping with transportation or car repairs, bringing someone groceries, helping someone move, just answering the phone if someone needs to talk in the middle of the night, prayer groups, Bible studies A church can assit in all these and should be, and the person dosent need to be single thats assisting, in fact an expirenced parent or grandparent is even better. Married people can relate to lonliness as well. Our church does all of these things. Outside groups are fine but why deny the church you are a part of the chance to minister as it should? I'd feel much safer having someone in the church I have a realtionship with watching my kids than someone outside I just met.
Another plug for the church, those late night counseling sessions should be with someone that knows Gods word and how to apply it correctly as you want to take every thought capitive by the word of God. I would take your idea to your pastor and let him assit you and your church in your ministry plans.
A couple of things about this-
1. I'm not currently part of a church. My circumstances make getting out at all pretty difficult. Which is one of the reasons behind what I'm trying to do- if there was a way for myself, and others to even GET to church, I think some of the churches around here would be a little fuller.
2. There are people I want to reach who would shudder at the idea of being surrounded by "church people". I want to provide assistance, support, and guidance for anyone who is alone and in need, without putting pressure on them to go to church or get saved. I want to be able to point a person in the direction of a pastor if that's what needs to happen, but my main goal is to simply reach out to others and show them Christ's love in a way they need, a way they understand, and a way they can learn and grow from.
3. This group Should be a network of all types of people; I'm going to need involvement from members in the community who Are in a position to help, and that includes married people, grandparents, churches and other Christian organizations here. But the people I want to focus on helping...are people like myself. There are no churches around here currently focusing on getting single parents through the tornado of a divorce, or the struggles of being alone. Those late-night phone calls I mentioned don't have to be counseling sessions. In fact not everyone wants to be counseled- I just want people to have someone to Listen to them and understand what they're going through.

I agree that churches should be involved in helping in this way. And some of them do help, some- but not in the way I'm thinking of.
I do appreciate your input though :)
 
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MissCris

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This morning I went looking on Facebook for other single parent groups; most are just support type things that post "inspirational" quotes and whatnot. But one of them is a page for an actual, physical, real world non-profit organization in Michigan. So I sent them a message, just briefly explaining what I'm trying to do, and asked them to contact me if they were willing to answer a few questions to help me get started.

They responded right away, setting up a phone conference with the president of their organization for July 3rd, and also saying, "Thanks for reaching out to us, and for having the courage and heart to answer this calling from God."

I hadn't expected to hear back so fast, or for them to be so friendly. So that's super encouraging and now I'm off to contact more people. YAY!!!
 
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Nice theory. But in the world of 'me church' it's not that feasible. Most churches anymore aren't interested in serving or support. Maybe public relations wise. Some larger churches may offer some special services to help people, but counseling, etc.. but smaller churches often don't have the means. And since a larger church tends to indicate bad teaching (no not always, but it seems to be more common anymore) who wants to be a part of that?

No Offense, but its called a church. All these things babysitting, helping with transportation or car repairs, bringing someone groceries, helping someone move, just answering the phone if someone needs to talk in the middle of the night, prayer groups, Bible studies A church can assit in all these and should be, and the person dosent need to be single thats assisting, in fact an expirenced parent or grandparent is even better. Married people can relate to lonliness as well. Our church does all of these things. Outside groups are fine but why deny the church you are a part of the chance to minister as it should? I'd feel much safer having someone in the church I have a realtionship with watching my kids than someone outside I just met.
 
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MissCris

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Now waiting to hear back from 5 more places- two more non-profit organizations, a charity organization, a community organization, and a non-government organization. New York, Brooklyn, Las Vegas, Orlando, somewhere in Kansas... All over the place. Still trying to find these types of groups in smaller areas.

I did come across several pages for churches who provide this kind of thing- it was nice to see that. But it's also encouraging to see that I'm not the only one who recognizes the need to reach further than the walls of a church.
 
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Hellooo

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I can see both sides...you can serve people and minister to people in AND outside of church, but it sounds like the demographic misscris is targeting isn't exclusively Christian single parents. Pardon my paraphrasing, but the healthy aren't the ones with the greatest need for a physician, but the sick.

I partner with a Christian AND a secular volunteer organization the first part of the year to prepare free taxes for low income earners and facilitate some other financial literacy workshops...it really doesn't matter who is helping out, but that people have their needs addressed. we should encourage each other to use our gifts, instead of being dismissive.....if there's a need in misscris's community that's not being met, it can be served with or without an official church affiliation, or with both ...there's more than one way to skin a cat right?


1 cor 10:31 so whether you eat or drink or whatever you do, do it all for the glory of God
 
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Hellooo

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Off the top of my head, I can think of about 4 ways to skin a cat.
/end derail
 
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StoneThrower

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Nice theory. But in the world of 'me church' it's not that feasible. Most churches anymore aren't interested in serving or support. Maybe public relations wise. Some larger churches may offer some special services to help people, but counseling, etc.. but smaller churches often don't have the means. And since a larger church tends to indicate bad teaching (no not always, but it seems to be more common anymore) who wants to be a part of that?
I suppose we are a church of 17 familes and three singles about 80 of us with kids.
 

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Cris, I don't know you but I just read your thread. I think your idea is awesome. But (yes, a big BUT), you need to put a sort of a framework to it. I have developed business and market entry plans, so if you don't mind I can give you a short guide on how to go about everything (from scratch to finish).

1. GAP analysis
- Identify your Target Group: This is the first and foremost thing you do before you begin any business. Who is your TG? What are their characteristics? In your case, you have outlined your TG as single parents. But that's not enough - you need more details. Here are some questions you may want to ponder over - is it male, female or both? What about the age group? What about the location (rural, urban or 5 mile radius from where you live)? How about their income levels (try identifying a particular socio-econimic category)? How about their education levels? How about their psychological/lifestyle characteristics? For example, a single mother, aged 35, living in New York, earning about USD 150,000 as a Senior Business Analyst with McKinsey would have different needs from a single father, aged 55, living in Texas, earning about USD 60,000 as a local grocery assistant. My suggestion is that you identify the TG that you can easily connect with since you will be doing the "concept selling" initially. Also, make sure that this TG is sufficiently present - there's no point in starting your business if your customers are only 5 or 10.
- What does your TG need? What kind of services/assistance would they require? What is the medium of delivery (online, offline or both)? Does it call for manpower, financial or material investment? Would you need any specialists to meet their requirements (like, plumbing, nursing, tutoring, car servicing, etc.)? Get them to prioritise the services (1, being top priority and so on). You will need to do some primary market survey here by preparing a simple questionnaire and talking to other single parents in your area. At the same time, try and estimate on the size of your TG - how big are they? You can either extrapolate any available information or you can obtain it from a reliable source (local govt., community center, school, etc.).
- Study the existing market: - who are the existing players catering to your TG? What are they offering them? What are the limitations in their services vis-a-vis the requirements of your TG? How do they fund their operations (both, capex and opex)? Are they manpower-intensive or capital-intensive? These questions will help you identify the gap in the existing market (i.e. TG's benefits wanted vs TG's benefits received). Make a list of all this, as this will be your USP (Unique Selling Proposition) when you launch the business.

2. Your business plan
Now that you have identified your TG, their needs and the gap in the existing market you can sit down and start working on the business plan. Here are some steps to follow.
- The essence of the business: This is nothing but 'the why, the what and the how' of your business. Why does the business exist? What does it want to do? How does it do what it wants to do? Trust me, this is the toughest part of developing the business plan - but you have to keep it short and simple (max. 20 words each).
- Mission and vision statement: The mission statement is an old concept, but the vision statement still holds true. This outlines the scope for your business - how far can it grow/expand in the future (think, 10 years or longer). For example, an low-cost airline's vision statement should be 'Our vision is to provide low-cost transportation to people.' Note that I did not mention anything about flying here. This is because tomorrow they can move on to other forms of transport (albeit low-cost only) - rail, shipping, coach, etc. Basically, the vision statement will help the company grow and adapt to the changing needs of its TG.
- Your USPs: Although this usually is part of the marketing plan, it is fine to include this in your business proposal since your business will be offering only one kind of service to begin with - i.e. providing support to single parents. The USPs should have already been identified when you did the GAP analysis. So you will just have to list them out. Try and keep them to a maximum of 3 (or 5) USPs that are feasible for your business keeping in mind the constraints (financial, manpower, skill levels, etc.). These USPs should cover the top-priority but unmet requirements of your TG.
- The funding: You will need funds to run the business, no matter its size. How are you going to fund it? Even if you have a startup capital, you will need funds for your capital and operational expenses. How will you meet them? Can you get an SME loan from a bank? Can you ask an angel investor? Can you pull together a group of 2 or 3 people who can chip in their part so that you get a good fund to cover a year's expense also? How about donations?
- The source of revenue: Okay you have covered the funding aspect. But how will you keep the revenue flowing in? Eventually you will have to pay off the fund-givers (even if it is yourself!). And you will also have to meet the ROI (return on investment) expectation for your fund-givers. ROI is nothing but this - if I invest USD 1,000 in your business and you give me USD 100 every year, then my ROI is 10% (i.e. ROI = money returned/money invested % = 100/1000 % = 10%). Depending on the industry, the ROI varies. For e.g., in healthcare it is about 10% to 12%.
- Resources/assistance required: To complete the business plan you will need to provide a list of the resources/assistance required. What will you need to begin and then run the business? You may need - an office space to print on your visiting card, a small car to drive around and meet people, a computer with a printer and modem, minimal office furniture, another coworker to help you run the business, etc. If your funding is limited, I suggest that you start small and then grow your expenses as your business grows. Try and signup a close friend who has loads of time to spare and is willing to work for a minimal amount.

3. The other plans
After the business plan is chalked out, move on to the other plans - the marketing plan, the finance plan, the operations plan, the HR plan, etc. Please keep in mind the following points
- Always ask yourself 'How can I delight my customers?' You may be starting a small self-help group for single parents but even they are your customers. Always, always, keep in mind that they are your customers and your business is to keep them happy.
- The closer relationship you build with your customers the more easily they will remember you when they need anything. For example, they may even start nagging you about starting a school for single parents' children! Of course it may not be possible immediately, but quickly note it down. Sooner or later you can start if there is a good demand and the time is right!
- Avoid using big-ticket media spends. Try the unconventional media first. Again, it comes back to your TG. If your TG are not internet-savvy, opening a Facebook page will not get you the coverage that you are looking for. It would just give you junk enquiries that would only waste your time and effort.
- Before you start any marketing activity, always ask 'Will it bring me one step closer to my TG?' If yes, then plan about how you will do it (and if it is profitable to do it). If not, then drop it.
- Remember that you are not a charity organization. You would like to offer a service for your customers, but there has to be a payment for it. Either in the form of man hours, or money, or assistance, any way you can think of that they will appreciate!
- Please do not start off by giving out financial assistance. Not even in the form of 'please donate to xyz for this activity'. You don't want your business to be an informal money lender. Worse, you could run into problems with litigation or the tax authorities. Please, please stay away from any form of financial assistance either direct or indirect.

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There ends my long (but hopefully, interesting) response. I hope that this was informative enough for you. If you want me to clarify or guide you on something do let me know. I will be happy to answer your questions.

I will pray that this takes off well and that God makes your business a blessing to many! :)
 
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MissCris

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Roh_Chris-
thank you! Thank you, thank you, thank you! You've no idea how helpful that will be (ha, maybe you do). That plan will get me organized over here, I've been trying to make progress on this but had no clue what to really work on first.
Did I say thank you yet? Because...THANK YOU! :D
 

Roh_Chris

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MissCris, it was my pleasure. Going by your reaction it looks like I've given you some much-needed advice. :)
Do let me know if you want my feedback after you have drafted the business proposal.
 

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No Offense, but its called a church. All these things babysitting, helping with transportation or car repairs, bringing someone groceries, helping someone move, just answering the phone if someone needs to talk in the middle of the night, prayer groups, Bible studies A church can assit in all these and should be, and the person dosent need to be single thats assisting, in fact an expirenced parent or grandparent is even better. Married people can relate to lonliness as well. Our church does all of these things. Outside groups are fine but why deny the church you are a part of the chance to minister as it should? I'd feel much safer having someone in the church I have a realtionship with watching my kids than someone outside I just met.
That's what I thought when I was a married parent. But as a single parent, I found the church to be seriously lacking in the kind of help I really needed. I was able to get help moving which resulted in the music minister rifling through my underthings trying to find the errant mouse that came with my apartment. That was greatly appreciated. The times I really needed help, though, they didn't come through for me.

I think for the most part, the happily married church-goers don't understand what a single parent really needs. Many of them don't care because they think we are getting what we deserve for being promiscuous, or for failing at our marriages, or being bad in some other undefined way. They're too busy getting on with their lives to be inconvenienced by us. The idea of having some sort of parenting co-op is wonderful and definitely needed.

I think what MissCris is doing is amazing. Perhaps we can extend her outreach to other parts of the country.
 
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I don't have the business savvy to offer advice in this area, but I have watched and supported my parents as they have founded and grown a non-profit organization and I can safely say that I think you're on the right track, especially by trying to contact established groups that are sort of doing the same thing. As I'm sure you already know, they could be a great resource in providing helpful tips about how to get started.

Also, I just wanted to say that I LOVE this idea. I love how God is using you, and how excited you are to follow His leadership in this area. I'm also very encouraged to see how much support you're getting here. It's amazing to see people come together and offer helpful advice as your start on this journey.

I look forward to see how this develops, and I am praying for you. :)
 

gypsygirl

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Now waiting to hear back from 5 more places- two more non-profit organizations, a charity organization, a community organization, and a non-government organization. New York, Brooklyn, Las Vegas, Orlando, somewhere in Kansas... All over the place. Still trying to find these types of groups in smaller areas.

I did come across several pages for churches who provide this kind of thing- it was nice to see that. But it's also encouraging to see that I'm not the only one who recognizes the need to reach further than the walls of a church.
one pleasant surprise i've discovered over the years is if you respect people's time, most people are happy to talk about their business, give advice and share info. you'd be surprised how many people i've called straight out and said,

"wow, i love what you're doing in this community. i admire the manner in which you've [insert relevant and sincere compliments] and would love to pick your brain a bit, since i think you could really help me answer a couple of questions i have about this city/industry/segment/etc, if you wouldn't mind terribly."

i might be wrong, but i think this is one time when being a girl helps. i don't even mind saying that. ; p

while i have had to wait awhile to talk to someone, i've yet to in all my years have a single person tell me they wouldn't talk to me, or wouldn't answer a few questions, or whatever. never. not once.

because at the end of the day, we love it when people ask us for advice and our opinions. especially on a subject that we have heavy investment in. it's like asking a parent, "would you please tell me about your child?".

anyway, keep up the awesomeness, cristen.
 
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MissCris

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one pleasant surprise i've discovered over the years is if you respect people's time, most people are happy to talk about their business, give advice and share info. you'd be surprised how many people i've called straight out and said,

"wow, i love what you're doing in this community. i admire the manner in which you've [insert relevant and sincere compliments] and would love to pick your brain a bit, since i think you could really help me answer a couple of questions i have about this city/industry/segment/etc, if you wouldn't mind terribly."

i might be wrong, but i think this is one time when being a girl helps. i don't even mind saying that. ; p

while i have had to wait awhile to talk to someone, i've yet to in all my years have a single person tell me they wouldn't talk to me, or wouldn't answer a few questions, or whatever. never. not once.

because at the end of the day, we love it when people ask us for advice and our opinions. especially on a subject that we have heavy investment in. it's like asking a parent, "would you please tell me about your child?".

anyway, keep up the awesomeness, cristen.
Here's basically what I've been saying to places in my messages-
"Hi! I am a newly single mother in Colorado, and I've discovered that there are precious few resources available that provide any kind of lasting, hands-on help to struggling, single parents. I want to change that. I am currently trying to connect with organizations that provide what it is we lack here, and I'm hoping to chat with you a bit, draw on your experience on the subject, and ask you a few questions about the awesome service you provide. I greatly appreciate your time, and if this is something you'd like to help with, I can be reached at-"

Or, you know, some variation thereof, but pretty much that.

I've been asked to come up with a couple specific questions for the woman in Michigan but I'm not sure what exactly to ask. Because I have a zillion questions. Aaahhhhh!
 

gypsygirl

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Here's basically what I've been saying to places in my messages-
"Hi! I am a newly single mother in Colorado, and I've discovered that there are precious few resources available that provide any kind of lasting, hands-on help to struggling, single parents. I want to change that. I am currently trying to connect with organizations that provide what it is we lack here, and I'm hoping to chat with you a bit, draw on your experience on the subject, and ask you a few questions about the awesome service you provide. I greatly appreciate your time, and if this is something you'd like to help with, I can be reached at-"

Or, you know, some variation thereof, but pretty much that.

I've been asked to come up with a couple specific questions for the woman in Michigan but I'm not sure what exactly to ask. Because I have a zillion questions. Aaahhhhh!
sounds perfect!

a few thoughts:

1) make sure you specifically mention what exactly you want from them. be specific, yet open-ended. i.e. "since i'm at the starting point, i'd love to hear any advice you have for me on identifying and developing resource partners" or whatever.

2) offer to send your question list ahead, if possible. that will allow them to ponder and gather info.

3) don't think you have to ASK EVERY SINGLE QUESTION at one time. organize your most important question in order of starting point, even vision if you need help with that. because the point of this conversation is the cultivate a contact and mentor, not just to pimp them for every bit of info you can possibly glean. ; p

4) i would ask a lot of "if you were me, knowing what you know through your experience, would you a, b or c? why?"

5) record the calls. ask for permission, but tell them that you know they're going to be such a valuable resource you'd like to be able to refer to whatever you miss. i have terrible auditory recollection in comparison to my other methods of learning, and so when i have those kind of opportunities, i definitely ask for permission to record. honestly, you probably don't need to ask for permission since you're not legally doing anything with it, but i think it's a respectful thing.

when i've done that, i'm always told yes. and i think it underscores how important their info is to you.

6)always always always send thank you notes. thank you notes are so important, still. you don't need paper ones, but even a quick note in email or whatever, saying how grateful you are for their wisdom and time will buy you a lot more than you'd imagine. trust me on that one. : )
 
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MissCris

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I have just finished writing down (yes by hand- no computer or printer at the moment...) a business plan. Doing that helped me to focus on what few major questions I need to ask the other organizations. I'll actually come up with those in the morning...a sleepy brain isn't good for that. But I'm getting a much clearer vision of what I'm hoping to do.

You guys have been beyond awesome with your help and support (I'm still open to ideas and thoughts on it of course) :)