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Catlynn

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As I've been noticing countless threads and comments lately pertaining to marriage, sex, love and lust, I find myself completely uninterested in commenting anywhere. I was thinking today about why that is and God kind of spoke to my heart a bit on the subject so I thought I might share it with you all. :)

It seems as though more and more there is a focus on sin and how close we can possibly get to it without crossing the line rather than focusing on God, and not just God but on the ministry He has for your life.

"Teacher, which is the great commandment in the Law?" And He said to him, 'You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind.' This is the great and foremost commandment. The second is like it, 'You shall love your neighbor as yourself.' On these two commandments depend the whole Law and the Prophets." -Matthew 22:36-40

So what is love? How do we love God and love our neighbor?

"Love is patient, love is kind and is not jealous; love does not brag and is not arrogant, does not act unbecomingly; it does not seek it's own, is not provoked, does not take into account a wrong suffered, does not rejoice in unrighteousness, but rejoices with the truth; bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things."
-1 Corinthians 13:4-7

"But now faith, hope, love, abide these three; but the greatest of these is love." -1 Corinthians 13:13

I feel as though our focus should be on God's ultimate will in our life. It should be on furthering His kingdom, winning souls, loving on others in order to show His love and many more things but it's so easy to get caught up in ourselves. It's so easy to get distracted by what we FEEL and what we WANT that we forget to put God and His kingdom first. How much more successful would we be in fulfilling God's will for our lives if THAT was our primary focus, instead of "How do I get to a point where I'm satisfied and happy with a spouse and every physical and emotional need that I have is being met?" If we operate in the Spirit then our weak flesh won't have a chance!

"But I say, walk by the Spirit, and you will not carry out the desire of the flesh. For the flesh sets its desire against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh; for these are in opposition to one another, so that you may not do the things that you please"
-Galatians 5:16-17

What the flesh looks like:

"Now the deeds of the flesh are evident, which are: immorality, impurity, sensuality, idolatry, sorcery, enmities, strife, jealousy, outbursts of anger, disputes, dissensions, factions, envying, drunkenness, carousing, and things like these, of which I forewarn you, just as I have forewarned you, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God." -Galatians 5:19-21

What the Spirit looks like:

"But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control: against such things there is no law. Now those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires." -Galatians 5:22-24

If only we would allow a heart change to take place and a renewing of our minds through Him!

"And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind so that you may prove what the will of God is, that which is good and acceptable and perfect."
-Romans 12:2

God wants to get us to a place where we don't even have to think about what's right and wrong because we're so tuned into Him.

There are so many times in the bible where God brings people out of something in order to bring them into something else, not to just sit around and wait to be taken captive again. I remember reading somewhere in the bible....and I totally can't find it right now and it's KILLING me lol, to flee the things of the flesh and pursue the things of God.

"Finally, brethren, whatever is true, whatever is honorable, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is of good repute, if there is any excellence and if anything worthy of praise, dwell on these things." -Philippians 4:8

If we turn our total focus onto God and what He is doing in the lives of the people around us and how He wants to use us in those lives then everything else will fall into place. Not saying that everything will be easier, in fact, it will probably become more difficult, but you will begin to have so much more peace in your life doing the things that you know are from Him. Pursue HIM in prayer, in the word and in all that you do.
We're always talking about being whole people when we meet the person that God might have for us, why not start working on that now? Why not make that our focus for a while instead of being in a state of constant confusion about WHO it is and WHAT we can get away with?

I always thought that the purpose of getting married to anyone was so that you could better serve God together than you could apart....

"Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ also loved the church and gave Himself up for her, so that He might sanctify her, having cleansed her by the washing of water with the word that He might present to himself the church in all her glory, having no spot or wrinkle or any such thing; but that she would be holy and blameless. So husbands ought also to love their own wives as their own bodies. He who loves his own wife loves himself; for no one ever hated his own flesh, but nourished and cherishes it, because we are members of His body." -Ephesians 5:25-30

How are we supposed to love our spouse the way we should if we are not completely immersed in the word and in prayer?

Someone once told me that LOVE is choosing for the highest good of God and His creation above ourselves.

How endless is His love and unsearchable His ways. He knows every detail of our lives because He created us and loves us. Don't you think that He knows better than we do the best time and place for everything? He is perfect! So why not seek first HIS kingdom and let everything else happen His way?



I am not saying this to any one person or about any one post or thread. This is simply something I've been thinking about lately and a few verses and thoughts that God's kinda reminded me of. Please feel free to throw in what you will. I know that I definitely don't have all the answers and I am working hard on doing all of this myself. I have had the focus of my life on myself so many times and for so long before that the thought of God's will wasn't anywhere near the forefront of my mind. God has given me a new heart and been renewing my mind so that the things I once desired, I now despise. He has helped me turn my focus from sin to salvation; a life in Christ.
I have been beyond blessed to have spent the last few years practicing trusting Him. It seems as though as soon as I give up one thing there's another that He tells me to hand over. But because it's something I've been consciously practicing, it's getting easier and easier to hand things over because of His faithfulness in everything in my life. God is good and worthy to be praised. :D

Thanks if you made it this far. lol Thoughts, comments, scriptures, life experiences....all are welcome! ^_^ and please excuse my extreme inability to coherently get out my thoughts. haha

 
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Jullianna

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If something is troubling a person enough to make a thread asking whether it is a sin, the Holy Spirit is probably already telling them that it is. It was kinda funny to read this because I'd posted earlier today that it's not about seeing how close we can dance to the fire, it's about how closely we can follow the Lord.
Seems like a God thing to me. :)

Good thread ;)
 

Snackersmom

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I agree, Miss Catlynn :). Being single used to bother me, but once I set about doing God's work more whole-heartedly, it really hasn't been an issue. Can't even say that I especially want to get married anymore, although I'm certainly not opposed to it, if that's what God wants.

Seek The Kingdom first, these things will be added (if they're what God wants) ;)
 

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Catlynn,
I'll admit to being one who doesn't read completely through most long posts, but I did read all of this one. I agree with everything you said, and I find it very encouraging and thought provoking. So thanks for listening to God and sharing what you did!
The God in you is awesome. :)
 
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Wow Catlynn I was feeling the same way about things here in CC. I thought maybe I was just too open-minded as a christian because I believe in following your heart and letting God choose who He wants to bring into your life no matter how insanely irrational the relationship might look like on paper.

Someone on here (don't know if that person wants me to say who they are) once wrote about how she once prayed for a piano and once for a dog because she wanted one so badly and by "luck" she came across a dusty old broken down piano and an injured, unwanted dog and took them as her own, gave them some much needed TLC and found that they both turned out to be incredibly beautiful. I think that is how God works. If we pray for a car, He is not going to send us a shiny, brand new, perfectly running car. He will send us one that no one else wants, but with some time and patience and work can be something that you will be proud to own and has a unique beauty turns people's heads.

I'm NOT saying that God is going to assign us to fix someone...not at all! Do you think the person who came across the unwanted dog said, "Oh God, does it have to be THIS dog??".. NO! That person was absolutely ecstatic to have found that dog and loved it the first second she laid eyes on it despite all of its imperfections! She took that dog and showered it with love an affection and went through all the trouble it took to nurse it back to health and in the end that dog was everything she had hoped for and prayed for!

That is how I think God brings us what we pray for... He does not bring it to us on a silver platter, all perfect and ready.. He brings it to us as a test - we can follow our heart when we find someone we really like even though they don't meet our list of 'wants', or we can say "sorry God, that person is just not good enough for me."
 
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Brilliant. Very needed.
 
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GreenNnice

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am not saying this to any one person or about any one post or thread. This is simply something I've been thinking about lately and a few verses and thoughts that God's kinda reminded me of. Please feel free to throw in what you will. I know that I definitely don't have all the answers and I am working hard on doing all of this myself. I have had the focus of my life on myself so many times and for so long before that the thought of God's will wasn't anywhere near the forefront of my mind. God has given me a new heart and been renewing my mind so that the things I once desired, I now despise. He has helped me turn my focus from sin to salvation; a life in Christ. I have been beyond blessed to have spent the last few years practicing trusting Him. It seems as though as soon as I give up one thing there's another that He tells me to hand over. But because it's something I've been consciously practicing, it's getting easier and easier to hand things over because of His faithfulness in everything in my life. God is good and worthy to be praised.
As I see it and scripture states with your 'greatest commandment' part of that verse, catty, in this life God wants 2 things from us , the Lord leads our lives personally, but it does not change the fact He wants TWO things from us :

1 To worship Him with our ALL
2 To surrender all.

You are doing that , catty.

God bless you for your willingness to do.your best to give your life in complete surrender to God.

Here is a song while in a christian bookstore a few years ago, I love it ! All to Jesus !


CeCe Winans: I Surrender All - YouTube
 
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By the way, I really love your post, Catlynn! :)
 
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kayem77

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This was awesome Catlynn and I completely agree, thanks for this thread! God bless :)
 

seoulsearch

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I always thought that the purpose of getting married to anyone was so that you could better serve God together than you could apart....

God has given me a new heart and been renewing my mind so that the things I once desired, I now despise.
Just a few of my favorite points in this post... Thanks for reminding me that God DOES renew the heart, and all the things that once seemed so important to it. I hope I can get there as you have, Cat.

(P.S. LOVE the avatar pictures!!)
 
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Catlynn

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Mr. Green, that's always been one of, if not my favorite, worship song. :)
Thank you all for reading. I know it was long but it was all God and Him working.
 

Liamson

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Catlynn, just as you have posted, I agree.

From the top of the original post to the bottom, Catlynn back tracked to the heart of Christianity.

Seek first the Kingdom of Heaven AND HIS RIGHTEOUSNESS and all these things will be added unto you.

That is it, become the manifestation of Christ's love. A good example would be to extract Love from 1 Corinthians 13:4-7 and place yourself there.

I will be patient, I will be kind and I will not become jealous; I will not brag and not be arrogant, I will not act unbecomingly; I will not seek for my self, I will not provoked, I will not take into account a wrong suffered, I will not rejoice in unrighteousness, but rejoice with the truth; I will bear all things, I will believe all things, I will hope all things and I will endure all things, for it is not me but, the Love of Christ in me.

Our Father in Heaven knows us better than we know ourselves. We who ask for something in the Name of Jesus, will not be given what we deserve rather we will be given life love and a gift we take delight in. God is not a god of karma but, of forgiveness and grace.

Trust in the Lord and be generous toward God and He will be faithful to bless us, not for our own pleasure but for the glory of God.

(I am in no way promoting a prosperity Gospel)
 
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Jullianna

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"but for the glory of God."

Yes, Liamson, this, and only this, is the reason for our existence. :) Lately we've seen the topic come around to this even in threads that were headed in a completely different direction. Pretty cool :)

At a party last Saturday evening a discussion among some of the christians there centered around the work that so many of them were seeing God begin -a Gideon's army kind of thing. A call to alertness and attention to our true calling. A peeling away of the things that are not lasting, intended to strengthen the Body of Christ in preparation for an amazing event in the Church that some of us sense on the horizon.

I had to smile when I read Catlynn express her disinterest in posting, as I have actually been drawn more and more lately into some of the other forums, particularly the Bible Discussion *gasp* and family forums....like..as long as I'm here, why I don't I make myself useful rather than just entertaining myself. It's been encouraging to see others in the same season and threads created in that vein.
 

Snackersmom

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^^^^I saw you in bible-discussion, Miss Jules, and I was like "Yay, reinforcements!" :D. Not that I post there much either, but lately I have been more than before. And, why not? If most of the reasonable people avoid that area of the site, then that leaves too much power to those who just like to argue and insult, and that results in a disgraceful mess (I am NOT speaking of everyone in Bible-discussion, there are some wonderful people there).

So, yeah, I haven't wanted to post in "singles" as much lately, but I think it's a good thing :)

I gotta be careful, though, because Snackers LOVES posting in Bible-discussion, and there's only so much I can do to control him.........;)
 
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Jullianna

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It's been a blessing to see you in there too, Snackersmom, because I can read your heart. You understand the difference between a Bible discussion and a theological debate. Many don't. Can you imagine how powerful it would be if more things were written through the Spirit than by pridefulness and arrogance? Bring it, Lord. :)
 
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rainacorn

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This thread is a blessing. Thanks for posting!
 
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Liz01

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This is a great thread Catlynn, this kind of things edify us in Christ. Thanks :)
 

jb

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Nice post there Catlynn!

Heb 13v4 came to mind:

Marriage is honourable in all, and the bed undefiled: but whoremongers and adulterers God will judge. (KJV)

Marriage is honorable among all, and the bed undefiled; but fornicators and adulterers God will judge. (NKJV)

Marriage is to be honored by all, and husbands and wives must be faithful to each other. God will judge those who are immoral and those who commit adultery. (TEV)

Let marriage be held in honor (esteemed worthy, precious, of great price, and especially dear) in all things. And thus let the marriage bed be undefiled (kept undishonored); for God will judge and punish the unchaste [all guilty of sexual vice] and adulterous. (AMP)

Let your marriage be held in honor in all things, and thus let your marriage-bed be undefiled, for whoremongers and adulterers God will judge. (Wuest)

Let marriage be held in honour among all, and let the marriage bed be unpolluted; for fornicators and adulterers God will judge. (Weymouth)

Honor your marriage and its vows, and be pure; for God will surely punish all those who are immoral or commit adultery. (The Living Bible)

Marriage is to be honored by all, and husbands and wives must be faithful to each other. God will judge those who are immoral and those who commit adultery. (Good News)

Honor marriage, and guard the sacredness of sexual intimacy between wife and husband. God draws a firm line against casual and illicit sex. (The Message)

Marriage is honorable in every way, so husbands and wives should be faithful to each other. God will judge those who commit sexual sins, especially those who commit adultery. (God's Word)

In the first version (KJV) the word 'honourable' is in Greek, 'timios' (Strong NT5093) and means, valuable, i.e. (objectively) costly, or (subjectively) honored, esteemed, or (figuratively) beloved; especially dear, (more, most) preciou, held as of great price.
 
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GreenNnice

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Nice post there Catlynn!

Heb 13v4 came to mind:

Marriage is honourable in all, and the bed undefiled: but whoremongers and adulterers God will judge. (KJV)

Marriage is honorable among all, and the bed undefiled; but fornicators and adulterers God will judge. (NKJV)

Marriage is to be honored by all, and husbands and wives must be faithful to each other. God will judge those who are immoral and those who commit adultery. (TEV)

Let marriage be held in honor (esteemed worthy, precious, of great price, and especially dear) in all things. And thus let the marriage bed be undefiled (kept undishonored); for God will judge and punish the unchaste [all guilty of sexual vice] and adulterous. (AMP)

Let your marriage be held in honor in all things, and thus let your marriage-bed be undefiled, for whoremongers and adulterers God will judge. (Wuest)

Let marriage be held in honour among all, and let the marriage bed be unpolluted; for fornicators and adulterers God will judge. (Weymouth)

Honor your marriage and its vows, and be pure; for God will surely punish all those who are immoral or commit adultery. (The Living Bible)

Marriage is to be honored by all, and husbands and wives must be faithful to each other. God will judge those who are immoral and those who commit adultery. (Good News)

Honor marriage, and guard the sacredness of sexual intimacy between wife and husband. God draws a firm line against casual and illicit sex. (The Message)

Marriage is honorable in every way, so husbands and wives should be faithful to each other. God will judge those who commit sexual sins, especially those who commit adultery. (God's Word)

In the first version (KJV) the word 'honourable' is in Greek, 'timios' (Strong NT5093) and means, valuable, i.e. (objectively) costly, or (subjectively) honored, esteemed, or (figuratively) beloved; especially dear, (more, most) preciou, held as of great price.
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When your life is through, you will be judged. All will be judged, for every good and bad thing done but the power of God is great, the greatest, and, the power of His love for we sinners is great, the greatest. With God, or, without God, you will be judged GREATEST by this fact. Do you believe in God? John 3:16.

And by that belief, what do you do to show God you believe?

Do you surrender all to Jesus, as best you can, do you give all to Him and pick up your cross and follow Him? The Lord leads.

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As for the judging verses you quote, jaybee, I am VERY stickler on this and , besides, I try my best to follow God's plan for my life, for only He knows the true, best way, I also, at great urgency inside me, do NOT judge others for faith, for past life, for ANYTHING in life, for we all have things of judgment.

God does not want us to judge others (Matthew 7: 1-2) and, He is judge and jury , all-powerful of all, the leader of our life, which comes full-circle back to it should be our so desire to delight ourselves in Him, by a personal relationship constantly sought, and, He will give us the desires of our heart. (Psalms 37:4)

God bless your days today everyone, live for Him, because one day, who knows how but, IF you choose to let the Lord lead your life YOU will die for Him, for His glory. It will be your greatest day of all :) The Lord leads.
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Yes, catty, not the easiest thing in the world, in fact, it can be the hardest, but, as the Lord leads your personal life through relationship with Him, He will ask things of you, maybe, all things, to make your life a model of excellence to save souls :) or, maybe just make you whole :) . I dunno , but He doth. The Lord, leads. Indeed. :)
 

PopClick

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I remember reading somewhere in the bible....and I totally can't find it right now and it's KILLING me lol, to flee the things of the flesh and pursue the things of God.
Is this the one? (Romans 12:9) "Let love be without hypocrisy. Abhor what is evil; cling to what is good."