Prenuptial agreement

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Along the line with Grace's thread about bank accounts, I would like to know your opinion about Prenuptial agreement?
Would you do it? Yes or No and why?

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I myself won't do it because in my mind if I'm starting a life with a man n' I don't trust him from the beginning, then why am I getting into this marriage covenant with him to begin with?? But that's my own personal opinion.
 
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It would depend on the circumstances I suppose. If I married someone who had a family fortune and children of their own, I could perhaps understand their caution in wanting to protect their parents' or children's inheritance. As long as the agreement was fair, I wouldn't have a problem with that.

The state of Texas is quite fair about divorce proceedings and property division. Everything that is considered "marital property" (acquired during the marriage) is split evenly - debts as well as assets. Property or debt that was owned by a particular party before marriage would continue to be that person's property or debt. There doesn't seem to be any need for a prenup in Texas, unless there's some situation I am unaware of.
 
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IloveyouGod said:
Along the line with Grace's thread about bank accounts, I would like to know your opinion about Prenuptial agreement?
Would you do it? Yes or No and why?

I'll start:
I myself won't do it because in my mind if I'm starting a life with a man n' I don't trust him from the beginning, then why am I getting into this marriage covenant with him to begin with?? But that's my own personal opinion.
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Heh your own conclusion to the topic is pretty much the same I had.

Plus the way I see it even if I use a hypothetical and say that I was married and then the woman divorced me, I would still want her to live okay and might as well give her half anyways since I only want to be married to one woman and have no plans to re-marry in the case of divorce or in the event death does us part and I am the one still living. If kids are involved I would want to support the kid anyways so really even in the case of divorce no pre-nuptial agreement be needed.

(Plus to be honest I am not a rich man, and typically its the very rich people who worry about pre-nuptials, so thus the whole idea of a pre-nuptial agreement is somewhat irrelevant to me lol.)
 
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The law in Canada forces the husband and wife to split everything 50/50 if they have been married for more than one year. Unfortunately, also if they have been living as common law (It's something that I disagree with living as common law, that's why I said unfortunately) However, this agreement is to guarantee anything extra.
 
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Nope. If i ever find a woman to marry, it will be for a lifetime. To me it's a sign of lack of trust.
 
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jitterbug said:
Nope. If i ever find a woman to marry, it will be for a lifetime. To me it's a sign of lack of trust.
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I thought I would be married for a lifetime too. Sometimes you can't control what happens. But I love your attitude about it. We should all go into it that way regardless, if we can.
 
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I have to ask to anyone considering prenuptuals, what possessions are so important that you cannot be without those materials and thus must sign said agreement? What is it that you expect to take with you to eternity? Will the day come you will not lose the item you cling onto?
 
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I maybe young but I've thought about this before. I grew up watching the women in my family who had nothing or even tried to make anything of themselves get married to men who where loving, caring, very hard workers and made sure their wives were well taken care of and then the women in my family would leave their husbands and take half of everything he has even if they didn't really want it.
So sometimes it can be a good thing for some people.
But for me I wouldn't sign one. When I get married I'm in it for life. But at that slight chance of it not lasting I wouldn't want anything from him. To me if I couldn't make my marriage last then why should I take anything from the one who provided for me. The one who worked for it all. My disability causes me to not be able to hold a job. So I'd have to be taken care of. No way would I take from someone who took care of me.
But that's just me.
 
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Pres19 said:
I maybe young but I've thought about this before. I grew up watching the women in my family who had nothing or even tried to make anything of themselves get married to men who where loving, caring, very hard workers and made sure their wives were well taken care of and then the women in my family would leave their husbands and take half of everything he has even if they didn't really want it.
So sometimes it can be a good thing for some people.
But for me I wouldn't sign one. When I get married I'm in it for life. But at that slight chance of it not lasting I wouldn't want anything from him. To me if I couldn't make my marriage last then why should I take anything from the one who provided for me. The one who worked for it all. My disability causes me to not be able to hold a job. So I'd have to be taken care of. No way would I take from someone who took care of me.
But that's just me.
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Presley:

Well, it's kind of sad but good to be able to learn in advance from other people's mistakes, right?

Blessings.
 
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Presley:

Well, it's kind of sad but good to be able to learn in advance from other people's mistakes, right?

Blessings.
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Yes it's very sad but I've always learned by watching others.
 
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Pres19 said:
Yes it's very sad but I've always learned by watching others.
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The Lord has such a unique way of placing us in situations we can learn from and use that gained knowledge and apply it to our futures in Him.
 
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Pres19 said:
Yes it's very sad but I've always learned by watching others.
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Presley: Yes, it's a pity, but it's wise, by God's grace, to be able to avoid stumbling where others have been observed stumbling.

Blessings.
 
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I absolutely would sign a prenup. For people my age, especially people who have children from a previous marriage, I think it's important because, as Grace mentioned in another thread, parents of minor children usually have financial/court ordered obligations the other spouse might not. It's best to deal with those issues up front rather than have them cause strife down the road.

In the case of a deceased spouse, there may be assets/businesses established by a deceased spouse and that deceased spouse should fully expect the living spouse to do all he/she can to see that the couple's children reap the fruits of their labor, passing such assets/businesses on to them intact.

I don't see it as a lack of trust at all. Just seems fair and logical to me. Hopefully, as Christians, we all want our marriages to last forever; but the reality is that the divorce rate for believers is pretty much the same as that for non-believers. Seems like the more you can do to establish guidelines and boundaries at the get go, the better off you both might be.
 
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Jullianna said:
I absolutely would sign a prenup. For people my age, especially people who have children from a previous marriage, I think it's important because, as Grace mentioned in another thread, parents of minor children usually have financial/court ordered obligations the other spouse might not. It's best to deal with those issues up front rather than have them cause strife down the road.

In the case of a deceased spouse, there may be assets/businesses established by a deceased spouse and that deceased spouse should fully expect the living spouse to do all he/she can to see that the couple's children reap the fruits of their labor, passing such assets/businesses on to them intact.

I don't see it as a lack of trust at all. Just seems fair and logical to me. Hopefully, as Christians, we all want our marriages to last forever; but the reality is that the divorce rate for believers is pretty much the same as that for non-believers. Seems like the more you can do to establish guidelines and boundaries at the get go, the better off you both might be.
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Ya I could actually see this being a plausible scenario where perhaps a pre-nuptial agreement is not such a bad thing. (Just keep in mind its not really a problem of mine lol.) Like in the case grace said where there is like family fortunes, and businesses and other complciated things like this (this was what I was alluding to when I said mostly rich people have these problems lol.)


I like your example though too, makes me think of a good hypothetical. It's like say for instance I had a spouse and I died and she remarries in the case of being widowed (which according to Bible is okay to do, but I personally wouldn't do myself in the event I were the survivor, though I wouldn't care if my spouse did if I were first to die.) She has kids from their marriage with me in the hypothetical. Thus I could see perhaps a common sense agreement that a good bit of their inheritance from my death goes to my child as opposed to any children that might be from the new marriage would seem common sense and just to me.

Though I guess I am kinda forgiving myself and personally would even allow a lil bit to go towards the other kid/s that would technically be half-siblings of my kid too just for simple fact they would cost the wife money either way so might as well help her out and them out lol. Though I agree I'd still want the lion's share to go to my offspring.
 
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i would have no problem signing a pre-nup.

at this time in my life, i probably wouldn't be overly concerned about a pre-nup for myself, as i have no kids. it's hard to say without any specifics.

on the other hand, a few more years down the road could probably change my views. i'd like to believe that i wouldn't have any concerns or reasons to want that, but i would certainly consider it. i believe the older you get, the more important pre-nups are.

it's much more difficult to recover financially as you get older. i would certainly be interested in protecting my assets from a worst-case scenario.

the bottom line is that i'm neither opposed to drafting or signing one requested of me. fairly drafted contracts that spell out all the particulars can offer some peace of mind.
 
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If someone wants to have some legal protection for themselves prior to the marriage, I don't see a problem with that. A person who refuses to sign one would be the red flag IMO, not the person asking for one.
 
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It seems a bit like trusting the legal system and not God, but I could be very wrong and I certainly dont mean to offend anyone by that.
 
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Donkeyfish07 said:
If someone wants to have some legal protection for themselves prior to the marriage, I don't see a problem with that. A person who refuses to sign one would be the red flag IMO, not the person asking for one.
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"Darling, after we promise before God to be true to each other for ever, let's sign something about what to do if we are divorced."

What counts for more? telling the truth to God? or hiring lawyers to get money out of each other?
 
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