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Liamson

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10 Overlooked Truths About Action | The Art of Manliness


As you may or may not be aware, I haven't been around much. I've been ridiculously busy.

And if there is one thing that this state of being busy has taught me, it is that industriousness and execution are staples to success at anything.


I sat around the campfire on CC with you. We sang our songs, laughed as brothers and friends do. We embraced each others hardships with prayer, traveled to see each other and our friendship stretches beyond the digital world.

But, on the other side of the coin, we have fostered some pretty ugly virtues. We made our lists, splayed our ideals, vocalized the trespasses in relationships or in the absence of relationships. Such a thing brought us together, and in a sense united us, galvanizing our commonality and was something we could bond over.


Yet, in spite of this sort of cocktail of good, we remained much as we always have. Unsure, uneasy, and uncomfortable with the idea of being stuck as we are. We take note of the sentiment surrounding relationships, as if CC was some sort of accurate barometer reflecting the reality we live in day by day.

Each of us took our nuggets. We honed our expectations, both of ourselves and each other. We practiced not making mistakes, polished our sensors to root out those who would seek to poison and destroy our virtues, and we learned from those who share our noble cause.

We waited, we wait and we will continue to wait, like a moray eel in the shadow. The expectation grows, until it doesn't anymore, until it shrinks, until hope becomes deferred. Bitterness, jealousy, envy and strife whisper at first. Sour grapes becomes more than a fable, as we downplay each moment that passes as "Bad timing" or "not the one" or "Not who God has for me." Still the wait continues.....















What if we are wrong. Instead of waiting, what if we should simply be doing what we know is right. DOING, what we KNOW is RIGHT. (How does that work?)

Instead of pondering, thinking, blogging, chatting, reading, praying and ruminating about everything relationshippy, what if we simply unplugged ourselves from it? (But then what?)


Do something else, Until you forget what you are supposed to be, what the cobwebbed quagmire of rules and expectations are. Do something else, until you forget who is supposed to buy, who is supposed to ask who out, what version of the Bible Mr/Mrs right is supposed to use, or what denomination they should tithe to, or what they should or should not be.




10 Overlooked Truths About Action | The Art of Manliness






I've come to realize that when I was at my best and where I am going are matters of how hard I am working at being my best.


There is a Parable about a Master and his 3 servants and their talents. I choose to not be the one who buries mine in the backyard, "Playing it safe."
 

egeiro

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Ah, there's so much I want to say to this, I've read half of the article and my sleep deprived brain is already in overdrive.

There is so much truth to this. At the same time, I felt a sudden urge to slap you on the back of the head for being so right. It pricked my heart knowing that I retreat during those seasons where I lick my wounds, settle myself in complaining and giving myself reasons not to get back up.

Many things came to mind as I read this. One thing I am coming to realise only recently is the importance of adventure. People have traded adventure for efficiency and productivity. And although we can say taking action is being productive, I think I have seen in myself and many others where we have lost the art of seeing the adventure in all we do. Being a Kindergarten teacher now for two and a half years, I am constantly readjusting my lens as 'teacher' to that of 'student'. Four and five year olds are constantly educating me on the most important life lessons. The ability to see and do in wonder, and looking at all things and all unknown as possibilities and roads to yet be travelled.

Secondly, I believe we steer back from taking action because of the fear of travelling the unknown. There have been times when I have thought the knowledge of something was good enough, not knowing that the knowledge is what beckons us to experience it and to come to a deeper place of understanding.

Actually, just the other day I was driving home from work, and I had this insatiable desire to go to this certain park. I've been going through this valley in life and I decided to listen to my heart rather than my head, and reawaken the things that seemed lost.

So, I knew how to travel the long way around to get to this park by going home and then making my way from there, but I also knew there was a short cut. I had to travel the unknown. Instead of whipping out my trusty GPS, I decided to follow the vague road signs, and when there was none of them left, just explore, I guess. After two wrong turns and an amazing car ride around hillsides and with captivating mountain views, I can say I won more than just the satisfaction of enjoying the park, but I enjoyed the journey. It was a 30 minute drive of not knowing where I was going but being exactly where I needed to be - in that moment, alive and awake to my immediate world.

Lastly, I believe we sometimes don't take action because of the fear of getting it 'wrong'. To be honest, this is imbedded in to us since childhood. You get an answer wrong in a test and you get a big red cross. The worst thing you can do as a student in an educational system is to get anything wrong, and yet that very underlying message that is trapped in our minds goes against this thing called life. We will get things wrong, and sometimes it is okay to get it wrong. Some wrongs are absolutely not okay, such as murder, but when it comes to the little things that make up life itself, we're going to have to be okay with this. I have to be okay with children's activities at work that went wrong, and be willing to learn something about myself as a teacher or something about children's abilities, attitude, interests or understandings.

Like the article says, what matters is that I took action. I can tell you now, I have planned some of the most wonderful learning experiences only to end up with a failure to launch, and yet have a spontaneous teachable moment where my kindergarten children leave the experience even thirstier for learning and with a new understanding of the world around them.

Anyways, I skimmed the rest of the article because I would be here all day if I chewed on it, and I was planning to have a nap from sleep deprivation but my brain is too awake now.
 

cinder

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[video=youtube_share;AW2xyXl2tTI]http://youtu.be/AW2xyXl2tTI[/video]

Yeah, I may have more to say later. That was a really good article though. Anyone up for doing group input deprivation week?
 

Tinkerbell725

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Great article...I believe that its better to take action than just being passive. People today have become passive because of the modern times where everything is convenient. I am not much of a risk taker myself but lately i've taken some risks, took some life changing actions, went out of my comfort zone, been happy about it and did not regret anything despite being burned because I've been learning. That is what life is all about, to make mistakes and learn, to collect moments that fill our empty lives and there is no better way of doing that than taking actions.

Ready, Fire!!! Aim! I just love that line....reminds me how to truly live my life. Live on the edge...enjoy the ride..be fearless...stop playing safe because God did not promise us an easy life anyway.
 
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MissCris

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Amazing post, Liamson.

I never realize the damage inaction causes in my life until I'm forced to take action. Weight gain, stale relationships, mounting debts, neglected Everything...it doesn't just disappear, it just decays around me until the pain of it crushes me and I have no choice but to move.

The movement saves me.

The last couple of months, I've been in action. Life is 110% better this way. Productive, fulfilling, interesting.
 

Calmador

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I think the OP is more of a rhetoric cheer to move forward (because it's the cool thing to do) instead of a clear answer to approach finding a significant other. So, is taking action a good step? Absolutely! Is it always? Absolutely not! lol

There's a time and place to step back and think about what kind of action you'll be taking. I think especially when we're thinking about different contexts... it'll help make this clear. For example...

Guy gets down on one knee and asks girl "Will you marry me?"

Should the girl just scream, "YES!" after knowing the guy for a few days? She knows what's right. The guy is christian. He like her. She likes him. Is it that simple? I think when it comes to important things in life... we naturally will invest some time to think about things a little bit.

On the other hand, what laimson has said does apply to the easy decisions in life such as going to a christian singles group... joining christian groups to meet potential partners. Those are "no duh" decisions and need little thinking. Yeah... then... just take action!

I believe in some contexts (more risky or important ones) you should take some time to pray, counsel, think, make lists and in other contexts (less risky and not important ones) we should take laimsons op in mind... just do it.

Remember Peter and his bold/courageous... but stupid behavior.

Proverbs 14:29

Whoever is patient has great understanding, but one who is quick-tempered displays folly.

Proverbs 15:22

Plans fail for lack of counsel, but with many advisers they succeed.

Even though I know I make sense... I know some people will probably still not listen because too many people like the idea of ... rrrrr take ACTION... rrrr be a leader! rrrr be independent! ... (sigh) not always. Good bless all of you... I'm afraid for all of you.
 
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MissCris

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Even though I know I make sense... I know some people will probably still not listen because too many people like the idea of ... rrrrr take ACTION... rrrr be a leader! rrrr be independent! ... (sigh) not always. Good bless all of you... I'm afraid for all of you.
I kinda think you've missed the point, and managed to insult the intelligence of the people who agree with the OP...like we're all just going to be all "YEAH!!!! ACTION!!!! Watch me jump off this 50 story building!!!"

Taking action in your life doesn't have to mean being an idiot. You can stop being afraid for us all now.
 

cinder

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The point isn't do something just to do something (though sometimes that can be useful), but rather nothing will change unless you stop talking about and analyzing things and actually take action.

It reminds me of when I attended the workshop to learn about doing life coaching. One of the big things people had problems with was the part where you had to make an action commitment. I remember at least one practice session where I was playing the coach role and I must have asked 3 times or more "What will you do this week to move towards your goal?" A lot of times most of us would rather talk about things in the theoretical than actually commit to do something that might change things. Yeah, I need to apply those coaching principles to myself a little more these days.

The other good point of the article was that if we make the action instead of the outcome the goal we set ourselves up for success. It's easier to meet a goal of spend x amount of time working on this this week than it is to meet the goal of finish or get boss to approve this project this week. Just kind of reinforces the idea that the only thing you can really be responsible for and in control of is your own actions.
 

Calmador

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I kinda think you've missed the point, and managed to insult the intelligence of the people who agree with the OP...like we're all just going to be all "YEAH!!!! ACTION!!!! Watch me jump off this 50 story building!!!"

Taking action in your life doesn't have to mean being an idiot. You can stop being afraid for us all now.
I'm sorry if you felt insulted. I wasn't trying to do that.

Not everyone will be "YEAAH!!! ACTION!!! but I'll bet my life on that some people would jump off that "50 story building." That's why I had to respond. Some people really need be stirred away from that interpretation and philosophy to life.

About a week ago, I was in the chatroom and someone had the "jump off 50 story building" mentality. He sounded like a fool. He acted like a fool and the worse part of it all... this person was old. Taking action doesn't have to mean being an idiot... But, I have no doubt that it CAN mean that.

I didn't say what I said to insult anyone. I did it because I think the "jump off a 50 story building to take action" kind of mentality is bad for people. The op clearly has a dichotomy to it... This might not exactly be it but its relatively... Action vs Thinking

Here's an example from the op, "Instead of pondering, thinking, blogging, chatting, reading, praying and ruminating about everything relationshippy, what if we simply unplugged ourselves from it?"

^^^ All those things are useful. Why make a dichotomy of these things where one thing should be done and the other shouldn't when clearly both should be done.

No, you shouldn't unplug yourself. You should keep thinking, keep being patient, keep reading AND also take action. There's too much scripture to support the ideas of being prudent, building yourself up, being patient, and using support for a cause to ignore.

Proverbs 18:13

If one gives an answer before he hears, it is his folly and shame.

Proverbs 12:15

The way of a fool is right in his own eyes, but a wise man listens to advice.

James 1:19

Know this, my beloved brothers: let every person be quick to hear, slow to speak, slow to anger;

James 1:5

If any of you lacks wisdom, you should ask God, who gives generously to all without finding fault, and it will be given to you.

Proverbs 27:12

The prudent see danger and take refuge, but the simple keep going and pay the penalty.

Acts 17:11

Now the Berean Jews were of more noble character than those in Thessalonica, for they received the message with great eagerness and examined the Scriptures every day to see if what Paul said was true.

Proverbs 16:32

Better a patient person than a warrior, one with self-control than one who takes a city.

Again, this isn't to say taking action is bad, but to say that thinking, praying, reading, seeking counsel is useful, wise, Godly and it would unthinkable to stop those things. Take action... but don't be stupid. You should "think" too. I'll keep being afraid for all of you... It's actually the Godly thing to do... being afraid for people means I have some amount of care for people.
 

Lynx

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Eh... if the OP said "many here have..." I could have agreed with it. As it is phrased I cannot agree with it because it indicts everyone here. I know a few here who don't fall under the paint he splashed around with that broad brush. I'm one of them.
 

Desdichado

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Absolutely brilliant OP. Just the message internet dwellers need.

Take up challenges and enjoy the ride.
 

zeroturbulence

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10 Overlooked Truths About Action | The Art of Manliness


As you may or may not be aware, I haven't been around much. I've been ridiculously busy.

And if there is one thing that this state of being busy has taught me, it is that industriousness and execution are staples to success at anything.


I sat around the campfire on CC with you. We sang our songs, laughed as brothers and friends do. We embraced each others hardships with prayer, traveled to see each other and our friendship stretches beyond the digital world.

But, on the other side of the coin, we have fostered some pretty ugly virtues. We made our lists, splayed our ideals, vocalized the trespasses in relationships or in the absence of relationships. Such a thing brought us together, and in a sense united us, galvanizing our commonality and was something we could bond over.


Yet, in spite of this sort of cocktail of good, we remained much as we always have. Unsure, uneasy, and uncomfortable with the idea of being stuck as we are. We take note of the sentiment surrounding relationships, as if CC was some sort of accurate barometer reflecting the reality we live in day by day.

Each of us took our nuggets. We honed our expectations, both of ourselves and each other. We practiced not making mistakes, polished our sensors to root out those who would seek to poison and destroy our virtues, and we learned from those who share our noble cause.

We waited, we wait and we will continue to wait, like a moray eel in the shadow. The expectation grows, until it doesn't anymore, until it shrinks, until hope becomes deferred. Bitterness, jealousy, envy and strife whisper at first. Sour grapes becomes more than a fable, as we downplay each moment that passes as "Bad timing" or "not the one" or "Not who God has for me." Still the wait continues.....















What if we are wrong. Instead of waiting, what if we should simply be doing what we know is right. DOING, what we KNOW is RIGHT. (How does that work?)

Instead of pondering, thinking, blogging, chatting, reading, praying and ruminating about everything relationshippy, what if we simply unplugged ourselves from it? (But then what?)


Do something else, Until you forget what you are supposed to be, what the cobwebbed quagmire of rules and expectations are. Do something else, until you forget who is supposed to buy, who is supposed to ask who out, what version of the Bible Mr/Mrs right is supposed to use, or what denomination they should tithe to, or what they should or should not be.




10 Overlooked Truths About Action | The Art of Manliness






I've come to realize that when I was at my best and where I am going are matters of how hard I am working at being my best.


There is a Parable about a Master and his 3 servants and their talents. I choose to not be the one who buries mine in the backyard, "Playing it safe."
Best. Post. Ever!!

The End.
 

PopClick

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Eh... if the OP said "many here have..." I could have agreed with it. As it is phrased I cannot agree with it because it indicts everyone here. I know a few here who don't fall under the paint he splashed around with that broad brush. I'm one of them.
Yeah, I agree. I wonder if the post was meant to be slightly hyperbolic in order to make a point. There is certainly some wisdom in the link, but not everyone is fostering ugly virtues, uneasy, uncomfortable, or immobile.

Anyway, I don't think I have ever been waiting for or expecting anything. The linked article contains a lot of things that have been written in my notebook, in my own words, for quite some time. I just made a major change in my life recently without excessive planning or brooding, one that I hope will be a good change :)D) but if it isn't, I'll do something else. It really isn't that big of a deal.
 

seoulsearch

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I was also thinking that planning is part of taking action. I love spontaneity but I like to be prepare for it. For instance, a friend of mine called out of the blue and asked if I'd be interested in taking a road trip with them sometime.

I know a lot of people would just go, but I like to know I have the money saved in advance because I do everything I can to avoid things like credit card debt. Most people I know would just go (take action) and worry about paying off the debt (with 20% interest added on) later. Of course, it means a lot fewer adventures than what I've love to have but not having anyone or any financial institution hold anything over my head is an even better feeling.

Pop, you'll be happy to know I've tweaked yet another try at making my ever-elusive pair of shorts and this time (3rd try), I've run into some problems with gaps at the waistband.

I could just forge ahead and retry it all over again with some ideas of where to take in the gaps from the current model I'm working on. However, I've started some research instead and am considering making a contoured waistband instead (it could turn out to be a well-spent hour on YouTube) as well as looking through some books I've collected over the years.

I suppose the research could be seen as action, but it goes against the grain of the article because it's taking in a lot of information. However, spending a few days doing that is a lot wiser than just trying to adjust things the way I "think" they need to be fixed. No need to invent the wheel when I can take in an ocean of input and have a much better game plan before I make the first move.

I find that tends to be my own method in life as well.
 
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Siberian_Khatru

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We waited, we wait and we will continue to wait, like a moray eel in the shadow.
While it's rather high in cholesterol, I cannot get enough of a good dragon roll (sushi roll with cooked eel, or "Unagi")! Of course, ordering one (or more...:D) of these rolls means playing the waiting game as it's all prepared to order.

Sometimes "waiting" can be muddled with "exercising patience."

On a more serious and direct note: Planning is not exclusively antonymous to action. I didn't wake up one day and decide to retire. No, instead I researched rates of return on various investment options and opened a Roth IRA after doing so in an effort to plan for retirement. There's a fine line between being [willfully] stuck and being proactive, and I believe we kid ourselves if we romanticize the benefits of action over planning.

That said...

Do something else, Until you forget what you are supposed to be, what the cobwebbed quagmire of rules and expectations are. Do something else, until you forget who is supposed to buy, who is supposed to ask who out, what version of the Bible Mr/Mrs right is supposed to use, or what denomination they should tithe to, or what they should or should not be.
I like this. :cool: Stepping outside one's bubble (while being true to our values) is the best way to burst it - in a good way!
 

Lynx

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I was also thinking that planning is part of taking action. I love spontaneity but I like to be prepare for it. For instance, a friend of mine called out of the blue and asked if I'd be interested in taking a road trip with them sometime.

I know a lot of people would just go, but I like to know I have the money saved in advance because I do everything I can to avoid things like credit card debt. Most people I know would just go (take action) and worry about paying off the debt (with 20% interest added on) later. Of course, it means a lot fewer adventures than what I've love to have but not having anyone or any financial institution hold anything over my head is an even better feeling.
If you lived closer I'd call you every time we made plans to do anything. Your thoughts are mine exactly, from your feelings about being in debt to your penchant for planning stuff. I have a lot more fun when I know I won't regret it next month when the bill arrives.

So did you go? Where did y'all take a trip to?
 

Liamson

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There once was an American Civil War general. His name was George McClellan, brilliant unto himself, yet lacking any sort of execution. He conceived and argued for and against any plan, until the time for its implementation had long since passed due.



My point is that, we know the rules, we have the blueprints. We have talked and talked at some length about how it ought to work, ought to be, and will be.


Thats fine. Now, roll up the scrolls and put a shovel in the ground.


An inventor is someone who fails a thousand times until his idea takes the function it was intended.


The best experience you can get at doing something is simply by doing it.



There is a parable about 3 servants and a Master. The master gave them each a share of Talents, WITH NO CLEAR INSTRUCTION AS TO WHAT TO DO. The one who buried it in the ground to keep it safe, lost it due to his inaction, cowardice, and lack of faith.


An investment is a risk. No matter the foresight or planning, every action worth doing is a risk.

Ideals are ideals, and that is important to have good ones. But what is worth more than a thousand well intentioned arguments for an ideal, is the thing in practical action.


For the last 100 years people have believed that Communism was a good idea. On paper it looks good, fair and worth the cost of admission. Yet, we know from experience that it doesn't work.





You might have all of the race knowledge a man can posses, but you aren't going to know your own strengths or weaknesses until you put some rubber on the track.




13 Come now, you who say, “Today or tomorrow we will go to such and such a city, spend a year there, buy and sell, and make a profit”; 14 whereas you do not know what will happen tomorrow. For what is your life? It is even a vapor that appears for a little time and then vanishes away. 15 Instead you ought to say, “If the Lord wills, we shall live and do this or that.” 16 But now you boast in your arrogance. All such boasting is evil.


17 Therefore, to him who knows to do good and does not do it, to him it is sin.





If we say Wisdom is the practical application of knowledge, then our actions would be a reflections of our wisdom. To go and do what I know is right, without procrastination, that is my aim.