Should a Christian man always be provider in a modern women's rights-oriented world?

[CatHerder]

Statistics, for your leisurely perusal.

And according to this statistics report, the salary for male teachers is as much as 10-13% higher than female teachers.

There are numerous reasons, some of them legitimate and some of them not, that men earn more than women. One reason is that men are often more aggressive about raises in pay than women are. Another is that women are likely to stop mid-career in order to have a family.

Another might be that there are more male coaches than female coaches, which can earn a hefty stipend. High school band directors also get a stipend for all their extracurricular functions (pep bands at football games and all the marching band competitions). Most high school band directors are male, though that is evening out. Also more men than women seem to go into admin, whereas more women teachers stay in the classroom than men. Since there is only (usually) one band director per high school, I have no idea if this would put a dent in the statistics or not, but I would think the coaching would, if coach stipends are figured in this study. Did it say?

However, Tintin is otherwise correct in that men and women get the same pay, all other things being equal. Teaching salaries are determined by a pay scale which (in the U.S.) is uses years of experience and educational units above and beyond graduation.

 

[sharkwhales]

I feel like I can't be in a relationship, because I don't, and probably never will, have enough money. I suppose you can partially pin the blame on me in a way, but at some level I feel like I didn't have much say in that matter.
Anyways, every church I've ever been to says that men should be the provider. But, in today's world, women are getting better jobs and are making sufficient incomes, sometimes even enough to live on their own. It just seems with shift of dynamic that, while men should be hard-working, should the breadwinning expectation be placed on the male?
By no means would I suggest that the man be lazy, I think he should work and do what he can, but sometimes life just puts us in situations where finances don't go our way. At some level, I feel like this mentality is outdated and the times have changed. I wouldn't say it's wrong for a man to be provider, but I think if two people love each other and want to start a life, the woman can be the financial provider, provided that both parties agree to it, and I wouldn't think to be a sin. Agree or disagree?

B/c this thread is already a week old I'll give a quick response.

I don't think it's a matter of sin. I think Holy Spirit is pragmatic and will work with a couple on how they balance things. Everyone has strengths and weaknesses, areas where they lead and areas where they follow. No shame in it. If situations arise where a woman is the breadwinner, it's fine. There are definitely some new situations these days. There's grace for it, Holy Spirit can handle it.

Now it is true that men have been historically cast as having a certain role and women having another role. Society thinks this is wrong and outdated; society is blind, confused, and wandering in circles because it is bound by truths it won't face. The old roles are not wrong so long as people recognize their worth is not defined by their role, but by how well they serve in their role. Applies to men and women.

But again there are exceptions and it's fine, it's not a matter of whether it's sin or not. I just outright reject the notion that the old ways were bad and primitive and that we now need to push women to be just like men.

 

[Meza83]

It's not a sin for the female to earn more money then the male, God won't condemn you. If a man doesn't provide at all he's worse then an unbeliever 1 Tim 5:8.
As far as children are concerned, I'm a little amazed at some responses, it's as so people see children as a burden to get rid of rather than the blessing they truly are. They should be nutured and brought up in the ways of the Lord.
The word of God is 100% truth and should be relied upon for guidance in a Christians life not what the world thinks is right or how society is these days.
God bless you all.

 

[Shawn2516]

I feel like I can't be in a relationship, because I don't, and probably never will, have enough money. I suppose you can partially pin the blame on me in a way, but at some level I feel like I didn't have much say in that matter.

No, you CAN be in a relationship, but if a woman passes you up due to a lack of filthy lucre, then consider it a personal blessing. If money is the sole reason she is with you, then your foundation aka your marriage, will fall when you lose your job. You don't want a parasite, you want someone who will be in the good times and the bad ones.

If you really want to be in a relationship, pray to God for a wife. Remember, if he does the picking, he's never wrong in his selection. God does not make mistakes.

I prayed to God for my wife, and she is MORE than a blessing. She is more than anything I could have ever hoped or dreamed or wanted. I asked God why he gave me such a Godly woman? His response was this: "If your son asks for a fish, will you give him a snake? If your son asks for a meal, will you give him a stone? How much more goodly gifts does the Father give to his children!". Those were Christs words.

I think the problem your running into is women's lists. The ever demanding must be 'X, Y, Z before you can be with me.'

AVOID those women. Those are prideful women who put you beneath them, so do yourself a favor and opt out. Now if they want something reasonable, a honest virtuous man, (and really test this, make sure they don't say you have to be 6 feet tall because then they are vain), then that is fine.

Ultimately, you want to look for character in your wife. You will never find or have the perfect one, because then that would be to say, Jesus died on the Cross for everyone but your wife, but you must look for good Godly character. How I am so amazed that God gave me such a good Godly wife. I know he will do the same for you if you ask him.

As for equality, I really hate it. Not because I don't want women to be equals, but because they pull down men with disrespect to "be equal". Not to mention I have seen so much pain and suffering going towards men from women's equality movement. Women are oblivious to men's suffering and quite frankly, don't care.

So what should you do in this case? First, ask yourself which woman do you want. Do you want old-school or do you want new-school. If you want old-school, test her to see if she has those values. If she has feminist views then you know not to date with her much. Otherwise, if you want new-school and not old-school, then date the feminist. Although I would warn you that such a movement isn't Godly.