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biscuit

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Btw! Being Christian or not is not a safeguard!

Some used it as a disguise to lure away or to get a "better" men, also. It´s probable they could be more aware of certain things, but the religion can be faked like many things you know as fakable.
"Ain't that the truth !!" That's why when a woman tells me she is a Christian, I will tell her, "that's nice." Then I will see if she practice what she preach (being a Christian).
 
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biscuit

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Just to the ones having a conversation between what christian is... does it matter if they are wearing it in anyway... as long as they truly love god and is working every day to pursue him?
Jake, Christians are supposed to conduct themselves in certain religious way that Jesus' prescribed in His laws, commandments & statues. We Christians aren't perfect but we are forgiven because of the Cross. Too many Christians (hypocrites) like to dip both feet in religious & secular world, and that's is a BIG No! No! as indicated by 1John 2:15-16. There isn't anything wrong having a general conversation with a Christian hypocrite or non-believer, but it should stop there before you forget that you could slip into darkness (secular world), getting into trouble with the Lord.
 
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Raine

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Jake... Do not judge someone by their word, but judge them by their fruit. That is how you will really know where their heart is. Yes, even Christians who love God deeply still sin and have to go thru the repentance process, however, you must be careful to notice if their life of sin is still a habit. I think it's ok if you have moments of weakness because we all do, but if you are still stuck in a life of living daily sin, then to me, that means that person is still in the process of getting to know Jesus more deeply. I guess it also just depends how strong of a christian woman you want. :). And when I say strong, I'm not talking about their rebellion kind, I'm talking about a woman who would submit her will to the word of God.
 

Fenner

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OK Jake after reading all of these posts, I'm confused, go find a remote island and live a life of celibacy. :confused:;)
 
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Jake_from_state_farm

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Jake... Do not judge someone by their word, but judge them by their fruit. That is how you will really know where their heart is. Yes, even Christians who love God deeply still sin and have to go thru the repentance process, however, you must be careful to notice if their life of sin is still a habit. I think it's ok if you have moments of weakness because we all do, but if you are still stuck in a life of living daily sin, then to me, that means that person is still in the process of getting to know Jesus more deeply. I guess it also just depends how strong of a christian woman you want. :). And when I say strong, I'm not talking about their rebellion kind, I'm talking about a woman who would submit her will to the word of God.

But god says not to judge at all, so..now what? and thats all I want in a women... a women that will submit herself in god.
 

hoss2576

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But god says not to judge at all, so..now what? and thats all I want in a women... a women that will submit herself in god.
I don't think Raine was necessarily meaning judge like you are thinking, but rather choose a woman by the things she does not just the things she says.
 
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Raine

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But god says not to judge at all, so..now what? and thats all I want in a women... a women that will submit herself in god.
We are not to judge outsiders, but we are to judge insiders because we have to look out for each other.

1Corinthians 5:12-13
it isn't my responsibility to judge outsiders, but it certainly is your responsibility to judge those inside the church who are sinning. God will judge those on the outside; but as scripture says, "You must remove the evil person from among you."

Again, when referring to evil person scripture doesn't mean a sinful person as we are all sinful, but the person who deliberately lives in habitual sin.

And we do have to use some judgement... How are you going to find a good wife and good friends? What makes the difference in this kind of judgement is your wisdom and love for others. Just because someone is living in sin but doesn't know God doesn't mean you avoid them completely etc... You have to use wisdom and love... How can I show them God's love without getting pulled into their sinful life habits? How do I love them the way God wants me to? What are my weaknesses? Will I be tempted into sin if I hangout with that person too much? Am I just looking for an excuse to "fall" into the life of sin?

I have to be honest... From past mistakes I've made... Never use wanting to help or save someone as an excuse to hang out with another person, and in the process end up sinning. When you choose that path you are only setting yourself up for destruction... And even more, is there sadness for us who already know the truth but choose a life of sin anyways...
 
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But god says not to judge at all, so..now what? and thats all I want in a women... a women that will submit herself in god.
This is not biblical. This is modern secularized religion mentality common among celebrities. As Raine showed above, the bible does say to have a Degree of judgment over other Christians. If i say i'm a Christian and ignore the bible and live selfishly and do whatever i want without conscience it's not being judgmental to stay that that person isn't a Christian, or isn't following Christ actively at that time. God says there are the fruits of the Holy Spirit and says we are to judge Christians by their fruits.
Now this is not to say we are to be judge, jury and executioner, so to speak. Except in extreme circumstances perhaps. Paul himself had told a church to remove two members out because they chose to actively engage in incest and refused to quit. So Paul said to cast them out of the church into Satans hands. Not that this should be the norm, but it shows a precedent of people who actively and willfully living in sin having their behavior judged by other Christians.
 

Oncefallen

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But god says not to judge at all, so..now what? and thats all I want in a women... a women that will submit herself in god.
To give a little more detail to what Ugly said.

Matt 7:1&2 (the context dictates not being hypocritical in our judgement)

7 “Do not judge, or you too will be judged. [SUP]2 [/SUP]For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.

Invariably people quote verse one without verse two making it sound as if Christ is commanding us to not judge others at all. Once verse two (and subsequent verses) place it into context, it is clear that it is a warning against hypocrisy in our judgement.

1 Cor 5:12&13 (the context is dealing with an immoral man within the church)

[SUP]12 [/SUP]It isn’t my responsibility to judge outsiders, but it certainly is your responsibility to judge those inside the church who are sinning. [SUP]13 [/SUP]God will judge those on the outside; but as the Scriptures say, “You must remove the evil person from among you.”

Paul's instruction is that we, as the church, are not to judge those outside the church (non-believers); however we are to righteously and without hypocrisy (per Christ's instruction in Matt) judge those within the body of believers.