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Shouryu

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You cannot wipe it out from the mind. Like you yourself confessed that you take those memories into your marriage. Where is the assurance that the woman won't subconsciously compare me to her past lovers? The very thought of she thinking about her past lovers just defiles the marriage in some sense and that would make me very uncomfortable and TRUST ME I rather be single my entire life than enter into a marriage with that woman. I simply can't! Do i hate her? Absolutely not! But, I prefer not to join with her. Is marriage something that is forced upon me? Or do I have a choice? If I do get a choice, I won't accept her as my wife but surely can maintain good and friendly relations with her. Hmm but what about a woman that lost her virginity during her teen years as a mistake, but corrected herself through the elders in the church and continued to be faithful to God and did not engage in any fornication up until her late adult years? That woman is acceptable to me and it is quite admirable that she continued faithfully in the Lord.
Man. It's a real good thing that Christ is able to forgive His bride (the church) of their past sins. Because if He exercised the right to choose who was worthy of His love and whom He would forgive of their past the way YOU do, I know for sure that all of us would be condemned to Hell for eternity.
 

acesneverwin

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I guess I'm surprised.....not about the virginity part but that so many of you have never been on a date....How does any teenager go through high school and not go out on a date?.... Even more surprising to me is Wisebeardman saying Wots a date?...

A date is a time for two people preferably 1 male and 1 female to get to know a little bit and find out if there could possibly be a relationship. If one does not date how do you intend to get to know a person well enough to ever consider marriage?....

O,K. maybe some of you would prefer the term courting....same thing basically you are taking time to get to know the other person....one doesn't have to have sex in order to get to know someone...but say you go out to dinner....you can find out if the other person is a slob or snarfs down their food... o.k. reject....or a movie do they allow you to pick the movie or if you are a girl are you insisting on the chick flick?

You get to find out if the person has a sense of humor, or if they are the type that would be classified as Russian hands and or Roman fingers......Then you know they are a reject....

Once you have gone out on a few dates you have had the chance to ask the questions, see how you each interact with other people, know if there is that sense humor, if they are kind or pushy or bossy or great. You can also find out where they are with God as some of those dates could be going to church together......

So I guess the not dating shocks me more than the being a virgin still..... Have computers tied people to the inside so much that no one feels comfortable enough to actually get to know a person in real life? Blond would like to know that answer..

Kudos for all of you who have remained pure....but a word of advise....Get out there and start dating....Your mate is not going to just fall out of the sky and into your lap....or show up knocking on your door. You got to learn to take a few chances and get to know someone and dating is a good place to start.....just a Blond thought.....
Well I never dated when I was in school... I actually didn't go on a first date till like 2 weeks ago :p I was a very emotionally troubled teen though castrated by my parents (figuratively) so I had no interest in sex cause the drive was not there. The confidence to approach girls was gone too cause I really didn't feel good about myself. It's taken a loooong time to retrain my thinking and step out of my parents shadow and the emotional trauma I dealt with my teen and much of my 20's.

But I did go on 3 dates with a girl in the last few weeks, one a whole day trip to Santa Barbara... She is not for me and I knew that when we first met but it was still cool to hang out and gave me more confidence to try again with someone else. I don't mind her for a friend but just the package just wasn't right for me and it's cool cause I think she felt the same which gave me some relief cause I don't know how to break up with someone and I didn't wanna lead her on.
 

gypsygirl

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I think you misunderstand me. I am not advocating that someone who has lost their virginity outside of wedlock CONTINUE to engage in fornication. And just because one has indeed forfeited their virginity outside of wedlock does not doom them to do so again and again and again. To say such would be to deny the power of Christ in someone's life, to deny that indeed, Christ makes us a new creation.

I came back to Christ almost 4 years ago. The number of times I have had the opportunity to fornicate since then? MANY. The number of times I have done so? ZERO.



The wages of sin is death, according to the apostle Paul. I see no disclaimers stating that, "Well, if you lie about something, God will forgive that. But if you commit adultery, you are definitely unforgiven." In fact, I seem to recall Christ showing no condemnation to an adulteress who was ashamed of her sin and fearful of her impending judgment.

Yahweh is HOLY. Sin is sin is sin. It is only in CHRIST can our shameful, sinful selves be in the presence of His Holiness. In light of God's holiness, sin is sin. Period.



Oh, I have no qualms with the statement. I have qualms with how some people hold their virginity like a trophy, when we are to be casting our crowns at Christ's feet. It can be said in the correct way, absolutely, but far too often, THIS is what the world sees from virgin Christians who hold up their virginity as a trophy:

Two people went up to the temple to pray, one a virgin, and one not. The virgin stood and prayed thus with himself, "God, I thank you that I am not like other men - fornicators, adulterers, or even like this man who I knew once lived with a woman he wasn't married to. I continue to save myself for marriage, and won't even associate with a man or woman who had sex out of wedlock." And the one who was not a virgin, standing afar off, would not even raise his eyes to heaven, but beat his breast and said, "God, be merciful to me, a sinner!"

When we speak with people in the world, people lost in sin, even young Christians who are just learning to turn from the ways of the world, we must make sure that we speak with LOVE. It easy to believe that one might be glorifying God when boasting about how they've NEVER done THIS sin, or THAT sin, but the world (as well as young Christians who are just coming away from the world) may only hear, "Look how much better I am than YOU! Look how much I did right, and you did WRONG! That's because of God, sure, but see how I did things right? And you did things wrong. Too bad you can't go back and undo them. Oh well! You can't be like me! Too bad!"

Your intent may be to glorify God, but there are other ways to glorify Him than boasting about our own accomplishments. Know your audience, for the world you try to save may only feel condemnation and shame, instead of LOVE and FORGIVENESS.

Again, I am going to say THAT I AM NOT AGAINST REMAINING A VIRGIN, AND THAT I HAVE MANY POSITIVE THINGS TO SAY ABOUT IT, WHICH I WILL GET TO LATER. I am against holding your own virginity up as a trophy and boasting about it, as if you are somehow superior to others who have not done so. Pride is the most dangerous thing a Christian can ever allow to take root.
You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Shouryu again.

grrrrrrr!

i love what you shared here. and i am really irritated that i can't rep you for it. : )
 
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prodigal

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Fair chance that anyone who reaches their late teens without ever having had a date is either ugly, boring or cult-ish.
Going out socially with a person of the opposite sex is simply a healthy and helpful part of growing up.
Sexual activity does not have to be part of it.

But then again, I reckon anyone still a virgin at 30 (maried or single) probably does have a problem.
does that include Jesus who we are called to imitate. i dont believe he had a girlfriend, did he have a problem
 

Roh_Chris

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When we speak with people in the world, people lost in sin, even young Christians who are just learning to turn from the ways of the world, we must make sure that we speak with LOVE. It easy to believe that one might be glorifying God when boasting about how they've NEVER done THIS sin, or THAT sin, but the world (as well as young Christians who are just coming away from the world) may only hear, "Look how much better I am than YOU! Look how much I did right, and you did WRONG! That's because of God, sure, but see how I did things right? And you did things wrong. Too bad you can't go back and undo them. Oh well! You can't be like me! Too bad!"

Your intent may be to glorify God, but there are other ways to glorify Him than boasting about our own accomplishments. Know your audience, for the world you try to save may only feel condemnation and shame, instead of LOVE and FORGIVENESS.

Again, I am going to say THAT I AM NOT AGAINST REMAINING A VIRGIN, AND THAT I HAVE MANY POSITIVE THINGS TO SAY ABOUT IT, WHICH I WILL GET TO LATER. I am against holding your own virginity up as a trophy and boasting about it, as if you are somehow superior to others who have not done so. Pride is the most dangerous thing a Christian can ever allow to take root.

Thank you for your reply Shouryu. I had actually typed a reply yesterday in this thread wondering if people who are claiming to be virgins are actually implying that those who are not (myself, included) are doomed. But, I chose to delete my reply rather than offend some people here.

For someone like me who is grappling with sins committed in the past, this thread just reinforces the idea that most Christians are a bunch of holier-than-thou snobs who sit on their high horses and browbeat the others into the dirt. As for myself, I would rather be in a relationship with someone who has repented for the sins she committed in her past, rather than be in a relationship with a 'saint' who will not spare an opportunity to remind me of my past.
 
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prodigal

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Philippians 3:12-13


12 Not as though I had already attained, either were already perfect: but I follow after, if that I may apprehend that for which also I am apprehended of Christ Jesus.13 Brethren, I count not myself to have apprehended it, but this one thing I do: forgetting those things which are behind, and reaching forth unto those things which are before,
 

Lynx

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Fair chance that anyone who reaches their late teens without ever having had a date is either ugly, boring or cult-ish.
Going out socially with a person of the opposite sex is simply a healthy and helpful part of growing up.
Sexual activity does not have to be part of it.

But then again, I reckon anyone still a virgin at 30 (maried or single) probably does have a problem.
Yay! I'm ugly, boring and/or cult-ish!

Oh, and apparently I have a problem.

Thanks Pumicestone, that clears everything up. Did you base your expert analysis on your viewing of the film "The 40 year old virgin"?
 

seoulsearch

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Fair chance that anyone who reaches their late teens without ever having had a date is either ugly, boring or cult-ish.

But then again, I reckon anyone still a virgin at 30 (maried or single) probably does have a problem.
Well this is a perfectly horrible thing to say to people who have been able to follow God's commands in this area... I'm not sure what you've read in your Bible, Pumicestone, but mine doesn't say people who are obedient to God have a problem or that they should be insulted, as you have done here so harshly.

I was around 17 when I had my first date. The "ugly" and "boring" part are debatable, I'll agree, but I KNOW I wasn't part of a cult. *Thinks about the church she grew up in.* Er... well...

I know at least two extremely lovely people who are in their 40's and still virgins. They've had dates and even relationships but never found the right one to marry, so they abstained. Neither one is ugly or boring, and if they're part of a cult, they've never tried to turn me into a sacrifice.

Yet.

I suppose there's always tomorrow.

All joking aside, I admire them both immensely.
 
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jennymae

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I really need glasses...I misread it...thought it said Stay in Virginia until marriage....
 

Lynx

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That would be a lot of singles in one state... which could result in a lot of matches being made. Could work.

*Lynx packs up and heads for Virginia.
 

seoulsearch

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I really need glasses...I misread it...thought it said Stay in Virginia until marriage....
Don't worry... I think the "marrying age" in Virginia is like 14, so you won't have to stay there long. :p

(I jest! No harm meant to all our beloved friends from VA!!!)
 

Roh_Chris

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I really need glasses...I misread it...thought it said Stay in Virginia until marriage....
Don't worry... I think the "marrying age" in Virginia is like 14, so you won't have to stay there long. :p

(I jest! No harm meant to all our beloved friends from VA!!!)
And all this while I was wondering why was I single. Seems like I'm in the wrong place. :p
 

melita916

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Fair chance that anyone who reaches their late teens without ever having had a date is either ugly, boring or cult-ish.
Going out socially with a person of the opposite sex is simply a healthy and helpful part of growing up.
Sexual activity does not have to be part of it.

But then again, I reckon anyone still a virgin at 30 (maried or single) probably does have a problem.
ah so that's what's going on with me. hehe :) kidding! :D
 
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ah so that's what's going on with me. hehe :) kidding! :D
no.

yahweh's 144,000 'might' include women. virgins. undefiled.

it is 'normal' for yahweh's children to remain undefiled, but there's few on earth who are his.(stay his,btw)

to date, dress like the world, make out like the world, IS NOT LIKE YAHWEH'S PEOPLE.

yes, the world loves its own, and the world acts like the world expects ,
and the world GOES ON AS IN THE DAYS OF NOAH,

and the world dies apart and separate from LIFE. without being forgiven, mostly. (most of the world never repents; never lives GOD'S WAY as DIRECTED IN HIS WORD)
 
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FriendlyGuitarist

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I lost my virginity when I was 14. I know, super young. It's also been hard ever since to not be doing that until I'm married but there are lot's of temptations, especially since I'm a musician. Thankfully though God has been helping me fight off those temptations as I really want to keep myself for my future wife :)
 
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DanielTate

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Still a virgin here, i used to feel embarrassed not now. Since becoming christian im totally not interested in uhh hmm sex. Not that its a bad thing .... bless you all either way sorry i didnt read your posts before i posted this i totally meant to though, i felt ashamed of being a virgin till i came here. Ohhh man thanks that i didnt have to feel so weird. But a real big thanks to the other virgins and especially a big thanks to the non virgins ... bless you all!
 
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DanielTate

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I feel biased now, but i love yall so much. Man... all yas oughta be proud now though sorry. I love your lessons.
 
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DanielTate

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To the people who lost their v. Ohh no doubt god holds so tight to you wonderful people.
man i love you all :)