The "EAP"...

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alienx7587

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Similar to the "JAP" in college, according to this blogger the superficial "EAP" has overrun our young adult church culture. In all seriousness, this guy has probably been burned more than once by women in his church and may be blowing this out of proportion. I have to admit though, there seems to at LEAST be some truths within his posts -and believe it or not, there is at least one woman who comments regularly in agreement with the author.
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Who qualifies as an "EAP"?:

The Un-Marriageable Evangelical American Princess | Christian Men's Defense Network

How to remove the "EAP" label and become marriageable:
PART 1- The EAP Guide to Becoming Marriageable, Part 1 | Christian Men's Defense Network
PART 2- The EAP Guide to Becoming Marriageable, Part 2 | Christian Men's Defense Network

Now, before any of you get hot and bothered, here is the authors defense against the claim that he dislikes women:
Do We Hate Women? | Christian Men's Defense Network

Lastly, a commentator (possibly the author of the blog) compartmentalizes the following types of young women currently found in many church services:

1. Omega females. These girls are either too homely, too weird or too socially maladjusted to fit in anywhere other than a church. The bottom of the barrel; the unfortunate 1s and 2s. They don’t blend in anywhere else. The church tolerates and loves them as best it can.

2. Ultrahypergamous women. These are the best looking EAPs. They have the pick of any man in church they want, and they know it. Even the married men gawk at them. They have a legion of beta orbiters and a phalanx of white knights to do their bidding at a moment’s notice. Always well made up, dressed to attract attention, and very, very good looking, even hot. All the other women hate them. Don’t even think about talking to them. You’re not in their league; not even close. There isn’t a man alive who could possibly measure up to her standards (except of course for those impossibly beautiful men she knew from college and church camp and that one time in Cancun — Reynaldo the bartender — that no one at church knows about). All of the above applies even if she is married.

3. Hypergamous “daughters of the King”. EAPs, but not as good looking as #2 women. These women are coming up on 30 and rapidly approaching The Wall, or have passed 30 and The Wall is in the rear view mirror. But they’re still holding out for their One Special Man That God Has Prepared Just For Them. Or, she’s in her late teens or 20s, but she’s a career girl. She’s going to work for a while and then settle down. She wants to have some fun now. She has plenty of time to find the One Special Man.

4. “Reformed sluts”. (Scare quotes to denote women who have not truly reformed.) These women are in church to meet men, or snare a man for marriage. Period. Full Stop. They talk the talk and are fluent in Christianese. She frequently says things like “God laid it on my heart” or “God told me to ____________” or “After seeking the Lord, I ____________”. Makes a point to talk about her past and says she is “not like that anymore” and she wants “to do it right this time”. Always dresses to attract male attention. High heels, low cut blouses, short skirts, garish makeup, bright red lipstick, perfect hairdos, and visible tattoos are her hallmarks. Usually has leathery skin and premature wrinkling and gray hair from years of hard partying. Some of these women are adept at imitating #2 women above or #5 women below.

5. Reformed sluts. (No scare quotes to denote a true reformed slut.) Proceed with caution. This type might make a good date or wife. But she is sexually experienced and has a high partner count. She might use Christianese but she won’t dress provocatively. She’s truly in church to do it right, but probably has a lot of baggage. Probably has in her past a divorce, an abusive relationship, an abortion, an addiction, or any combination of the above. She has a very difficult time pair bonding. Frequently defensive and evasive about her past.

6. The downtrodden yet heroic single mothers. “Stanton’s Heroes”. She is persecuted but not abandoned, struck down but not destroyed. She runs the gamut from hardbitten and hardboiled, to sweet and good natured. She is the undisputed hero of the congregation, raising her child(ren) with scant help from the deadbeat dad, and yet doing it with pluck, chutzpah, moxie, and aplomb. She is never a single mom by choice. Things just sort of happened to her, and she found herself in quite a pickle. It was the man’s fault. It was her father’s fault. It was her boss’ fault. It was her mom’s fault. It was her boyfriend’s fault. It was her high school guidance counselor’s fault.

More posts in relation to the "EAP":
Evangelical American Princess | Christian Men's Defense Network
 

Oncefallen

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Its so sad that invariably when men look at the problems in the church, the finger gets pointed at the women, and vice versa. Sure there are problems in how younger ladies are raised, but look at the young men. :eek::eek: Many young men that I know both in real life, and from this site are far from marriage material for similar reasons. Our youth, male and female alike, have been raised to believe that life is all about them, not about others. They have a sense of entitlement, instead of a sense of obligation.

They feel they are entitled to a good paying job instead of feeling obligated to work hard to get one.
They feel they are entitled to spend huge percentages of their free time wasting away in front of video screens, instead of feeling obligated to spend some of that time in serving others in their community.
They feel entitled to have the "perfect" godly husband/wife who will fulfill their every desire, instead of feeling obligated to learn for themselves how they need to grow and mature to be a godly husband or wife. I could rant for quite a while on this area alone.

Since disclaimers seem to be en vogue....

Disclaimer: I am well aware that many young adults were raised well and have grown up to be mature, responsible adults thus this rant was not directed at them, but at the portion of that generation that it specifically applies too.
 
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1still_waters

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This blog looks like the male Christian version of Cosmo magazine.
 

Liamson

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Hey, if it wasn't this guy, surely social artist would have done the same thing eventually. =)
 

Nautilus

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Lol, i quit looking for women at church a long time ago. I've noticed parts of this to be true, though at the same time the article as a whole is extremely sexist and sounds more like the whinings of some spurned beta-male and less like actual advice
 
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Jullianna

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interesting read...........
 
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kayem77

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I was reading through some of the articles on this blog and I sensed some bitterness and then when you read the commentaries it's even worse . The guy has some valid points and some of the things are true, but there are a lot of generalizations and some of the things he says are just rude . And he criticizes Fireproof and Courageos, two movies that I really like....
 

Stuey

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Lol, i quit looking for women at church a long time ago. I've noticed parts of this to be true, though at the same time the article as a whole is extremely sexist and sounds more like the whinings of some spurned beta-male and less like actual advice
I also got this impression.

That post above offended me, I suspect he has some things to say that may be true. Don't know.
 

alienx7587

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Jul 10, 2011
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Lol, i quit looking for women at church a long time ago. I've noticed parts of this to be true, though at the same time the article as a whole is extremely sexist and sounds more like the whinings of some spurned beta-male and less like actual advice
This is basically how I felt when reading through it. Like I said in the beginning, it looks like this guy has been burned more than once at church. There are some truths though, I have definitely run into the "EAP" type of women in church- and asked them out- and was coldly rejected. Lesson learned!

I think he has a general point though, it does seem like most churches have a tendency to point the finger at men and condemn them as opposed to women. (Look at that guy in Seattle... Mark Driscoll?) In the end though, both genders have behavioral problems (especially lack discipline) and it's sad.

Maybe it's ok to be more harsh with men since they are responsible for leading families and, generally speaking, congregations?
 
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Jullianna

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I do think women should be held to account as much at men. I kid around from time to time, but the serious male (or female) bashing often goes too far for my taste.

There ARE a lot of christian women who know all too well the "power" they hold over men and it can easily get the better of them. Dangerous territory. And needlessly hurtful. But it's a door that definitely swings both ways.

I'm probably going to have some rocks thrown at me, but I do think a lot of christian ladies need to snap out of fairytale mr perfection mode and realize that nowhere in scripture are we promised Prince Godly Charming. Women are flawed. Men are flawed. God, love, patience, dedication, faithfulness and humor make it work. A lot of great guys (and ladies for that matter) are being passed by, even in this forum.
 
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Ugly

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I was reading through some of the articles on this blog and I sensed some bitterness and then when you read the commentaries it's even worse
Haha, i think the same thing about some of the CC posts i read.
 
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violakat

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I do think women should be held to account as much at men. I kid around from time to time, but the serious male (or female) bashing often goes too far for my taste.

There ARE a lot of christian women who know all too well the "power" they hold over men and it can easily get the better of them. Dangerous territory. And needlessly hurtful. But it's a door that definitely swings both ways.

I'm probably going to have some rocks thrown at me, but I do think a lot of christian ladies need to snap out of fairytale mr perfection mode and realize that nowhere in scripture are we promised Prince Godly Charming. Women are flawed. Men are flawed. God, love, patience, dedication, faithfulness and humor make it work. A lot of great guys (and ladies for that matter) are being passed by, even in this forum.
I'm not going to be the one throwing rocks, because I agree with you. I think too many of us, have fallen for that dream of Mr. Right. I know that I have in the past, and I hope that now that's no longer the case.
 
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oracle2world

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Competition for a mate is not confined to christians - it is universal across all cultures and and the basic strategy has not changed over the past 10,000 years.

Men look for women with maternal instinct and good health to pop out healthy babies, and women look for a man who provides and protects. If you are a man and don't look like a good meal ticket, forget about attracting a woman. And fashion model women are not great marriage material - high maintenance and some look like they have tuberculosis.

I am not being cynical here, it is what studies show. These behaviours are hard-wired, no matter how "unfair" they appear to be. If a man is overly picky about a woman's looks (everything else okay), or a woman overly picky about a man's behaviour (nothing illegal or outrageous), they are just not going to leave behind offspring compared to couples that play by the rules.

Hope this helps.
 
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I don't know if he's a beta male parse, but he's wounded. The sad part is, if he found the right lady, I think his views would soften.

Either way, I understand the path to bitterness. Christian women have brought me to moments where I think romantic love is an impossibility and that sex outside of marriage is perfectly acceptable and all there is.

Thankfully, God trumps all my rationalizations in moments like that. I realize that my romantic forays would be useless outside the church.