Don't be so quick to surrender.
You do have a point. There ARE guys out there who don't know the difference between the sort of guys I'm talking about and being a controlling jerk.
I hope you aren't offended when I say that I have found you to be one of the guys I respect because you have never hesistated to politely speak your mind and you keep me in check.
I have to be on my toes with you, Sir.
I'm not offended Jullianna, thanks for the compliment.
- I do tend to speak my mind, finding I am more bendable than I like when pressure is put on though. =/, not a good thing.
Hmmm, I think it is some of the guys I know who I would imagine would act a certain way in a relationship (I have a few in mind), it just feels like the position of leader can be and is abused frequently. Such a fine line between leading in a loving way - and making decisions in the process that the Lady won't like and then leading in a way that is just self centered.
On a side note, the idea of a Lady being able to batt her eyelids and get me to do something for her is quite attractive to me.
Not sure why. I certainly would not find it attractive for a Lady to abuse this though... and on certain issues I would be flexible while others I wouldn't be as easily budged.
Eeek, I bet you're glad you are out of that one Liamson.
Yeah I wouldn't feel comfortable if everything was one sided either Kayem, it's unsustainable, there has to be give and receive from both parties.
On the introvert extrovert thing... I think you can be loud, extroverted, noisy and extremely confident, however I don't believe this means she can't submit to her husband who may be the quiet and introverted type. Many types of the submission may simply be giving him respect in the public arena or listening and respecting what he does in the private. I feel the guy can lead and gently guide in a way that doesn't involve much stamping of feet.
It is very interesting to see how you girls think on the matter.
On the equality thing Leelee, although spouses are equal, I do believe they have different roles, from my own personal reading of the bible - you look at where it talks about husband and wife they are described differently, although both self sacrificially in love the roles are described differently.
It feel that a lot of the feelings involved in submission are just messed up by sin. Both from a desire to control things in our life (we all get that one) and also the evil things guys have done to hurt girls.
Genesis says that a woman's desire will be for her husband, this isn't a good word, where it is used previously in genesis is to describe Cain - something along the lines of Sin desires you, you must master it. It really isn't a good word...
