There isn't an Objective Ideal Partner we can agree on.

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Liamson

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I've been thinking about this more recently due to my recent stuff going on in my life.


I'm not a cat person, but a cat adopted our house and I took care of it. I gave it food, shelter, love and attention. I would have never chosen a cat as a pet, nor can I imagine adopting one in the future for just myself. However, he totally changed my perspective about cats.

I understand cat people more now than before. Although I don't consider myself a cat person, I am an animal person.



But using the same methodology, applied to relationships, I've realized that all of my long term relationships have been with the same kind of people. Brave, Independent, Intelligent, loyal and non-maternal. I don't know that I would ever seek out a relationship with a girl, who was afraid of spiders, snakes, heights, and water. Or who wanted to live on a big farm with 5+ children.


But recently I've been in an odd relationship, where pretty much all the major red flags are there. She loves horses, she is maternal, doesn't know very much about the bible, she loves Chris Tomlin and Hillsong and all the droney repetitive music you can imagine. She gets my jokes, eventually. She is emotional, but not in a deep profound way, in a life is complicated way. We spend enormous amounts of time together but, I don't see a spark or an A-ha moment of clarity coming from either of us.


Also, I went to a wedding a couple of weeks ago where the bride was a girl that had a crush on me for a long time, but I knew then that I could never love her the way that her now husband does. I could see 3 years ago, that he worships her. And yeah, I suppose it would have been fun for a while to date but I could never see it progressing too far. I knew that I would never see her the way he did, so I stepped out of the way.





Here on CC we all come to a consensus about the basics of spirituality, sexuality and letting the Lord lead. Which can be vague but its a consensus we can all get behind. Beyond that, I don't think its right to try and make a cookie cutter ideal for what we should all strive to find in a mate. Beyond not fair, its making what we like "RIGHT" and what we don't like "WRONG". Even Proverbs 31 is not the gospel of "right person". And I know that we've all had bad interactions with people who were not our type, but that doesn't make them bad people.


With the right person for you, you don't have to try to overcome their apprehension or let them change you to be more like who they wish you were. With the right person, there is only who you are and who you want to be, not who you aren't or who they aren't. With the right person all the little things add up to them being more beautiful and complex, not irrational and superstitious.



So my question at the end of this is, what type of Christian would make the best partner for you?
 
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iTOREtheSKY

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Excellent post Doug.

Like I've stated many times before...the ideal Christian partner for me,is simply someone who "gets me" and that I can be weird with. I don't need over spiritual,just someone who loves God,life & me for who I am. I'm not out to change anyone to suit me or vice versa.
 
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kenthomas27

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I leave myself open to the possibility that, like the dog lover surprised by his affinity for the cat, I can be surprised. I guess I ought to hope for the woman who wants to live on a farm and have 5 kids, but I don't think there's anybody like that anymore, really. Can't blame them either, it's too much work and women are too smart. That said, I feel like I might attract a woman by being pretty amusing most of the time, then once things turn more serious I get accused of never being serious!. I'm laid back like a dead broke horse but, like i said, women are smart - deviously smart - and know how to push buttons.

My guess is I'll end up being the single uncle everybody wonders about. (you know he still wears a size 32 pants)
 
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Raine

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I love the point you made. It's beautiful. :). I ultimately want to be with someone who has a heart for God and strives to live it out. Someone that I could admire in so many aspects and look up to, feeling secure and knowing that I can trust him to lead the relationship. Someone who loves life and can just have fun. And definitely someone where we can laugh at each other and bring out the best in one another. I would love to have someone who we can play music and worship the Lord together, but musical talent is not a must.
 

christian74

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Beautiful and Enlightening.

Thanks.
 
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keep_on_smiling

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Your post has been with me since I read it earlier. You make a lot of great points. I honestly don't know what kind of Christian would make a good partner for me. I've learned that often times I don't know what is best for me and apart from a love for the Lord, I'm open to whatever the Lord has for me.

My sister recently got married. Her and her husband are/were so different from each other. They share their love for the Lord, family, and each other, but apart from that it's hard to see what other interests they share. It's been a blessing to see God work in their life and I can't wait to continue watching them grow closer.

 
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Christ said the hardest thing for people who idealize romance, "Not all should marry." It's a calling, a vocation. Because of this, it's best to seek the spouse He has planned for you. Doesn't mean it doesn't take work.

Also, remember, we all have the objectively perfect spouse, His name is Jesus bar Yahweh, the Christ.
 

Liamson

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Your post has been with me since I read it earlier. You make a lot of great points. I honestly don't know what kind of Christian would make a good partner for me. I've learned that often times I don't know what is best for me and apart from a love for the Lord, I'm open to whatever the Lord has for me.

My sister recently got married. Her and her husband are/were so different from each other. They share their love for the Lord, family, and each other, but apart from that it's hard to see what other interests they share. It's been a blessing to see God work in their life and I can't wait to continue watching them grow closer.

In a round about way, thats sort of my question. I've never been much of a complementarian, in terms of two people having very different approaches and skill sets coming into a relationship, but I can see the benefit. In the same way that I'm not a cat person, but there are very few dogs I would have traded my cat for.

I often wonder if the Lord would rather I be with someone very unlike me to sort of keep me grounded. Potentially, if I was with someone very much like me, there is no limit to the amount of trouble we could get into.

On the flip side, I am really creative and I would love to be with someone who "gets it" and feels it the way I do, especially considering a lot of other people don't. Maybe there is some secrets about this whole relationship thing that have yet to be revealed. Perhaps God would throw my red flags in my face to prove that obedience to Him is of greater importance than my own understanding.

I don't know, but I want what is important to Him to be what is important to me. If it means not dating another Missions Called Bond girl, I'm okay with that. At least I want to believe I'm okay with that.
 

maxwel

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What kind of girl is the right kind of girl for me... and how do I find her?

I honestly just don't worry about it.

I feel confident God knows what he's doing.
 

rachelsedge

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Also, remember, we all have the objectively perfect spouse, His name is Jesus bar Yahweh, the Christ.
I find it weird to think of Christ as my husband or having anything to do with a spouse...

In regards to the OP, I've been attracted to different "types" of guys, though I can't say that I know from first-hand experience who I would or would not be good with in regards to dating. I have ideas, based on my own personality, strengths, and weaknesses, but I can't say I know for sure. Every couple, no matter how "perfect", will have areas of similarity and areas of clashing, and those areas may change from person to person, depending on who you're dating. There will be complimenting, fitting puzzle pieces and others that just don't fit at all, and some of those may cause issues but some may challenge us to grow and balance the couple as a whole.

So, I'm not quite sure what "type of Christian" would be best suited for me. I know that I do not want a pseudo/lukewarm Christian. I want someone who challenges me, who will debate with me, but not necessarily debate as if we have opposing views or we're angry at each other, but rather explore ideas together. Someone who doesn't have to fill all the silences, but rather is okay with just watching a sunset together, or stargazing, hand in hand, willing to talk but not making the silences awkward. Someone who genuinely cares for me emotionally, spiritually, intellectually, etc., and I for them. Not out of duty, but out of desire to do so.

I don't know if that's a type of Christian, really. But, that's my answer and I'm stickin' to it.
 
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keep_on_smiling

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In a round about way, thats sort of my question. I've never been much of a complementarian, in terms of two people having very different approaches and skill sets coming into a relationship, but I can see the benefit. In the same way that I'm not a cat person, but there are very few dogs I would have traded my cat for.

In the case of my sister, she wasn't either, but the Lord softened her heart to it. She's done so many things out of "comfort zone" in such a short amount of time, as he has also. The Lord will bless relationships that are centered around Him and His love.

I often wonder if the Lord would rather I be with someone very unlike me to sort of keep me grounded. Potentially, if I was with someone very much like me, there is no limit to the amount of trouble we could get into.

On the flip side, I am really creative and I would love to be with someone who "gets it" and feels it the way I do, especially considering a lot of other people don't. Maybe there is some secrets about this whole relationship thing that have yet to be revealed. Perhaps God would throw my red flags in my face to prove that obedience to Him is of greater importance than my own understanding.

I don't know, but I want what is important to Him to be what is important to me. If it means not dating another Missions Called Bond girl, I'm okay with that. At least I want to believe I'm okay with that.
God knows what you desire and He knows what you need. I find it interesting that you even call them "my red flags". I think that is exactly what they are, they are yours, popping up because of expectations/ or desires you may have or have had; they probably aren't from the Lord (the red flags).

It sounds like the Lord's done a lot of work in you as of late. Your heart is in the right place and because it is, I think you will be blessed.

As always, this is a very interesting and thought provoking topic.
 
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Nodmyheadlikeyeah

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He has to be the kind of Christian that doesn't cry.
<--This.... is unacceptable.


None of this either
<---No neck..... NOT
ACCEPTABLE


<----Do i even need to say anything....
 
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He has to be the kind of Christian that doesn't cry.
<--This.... is unacceptable.


None of this either
<---No neck..... NOT
ACCEPTABLE


<----Do i even need to say anything....

You mean, you don't like bodybuilding?

Today even women do body building.
 

christian74

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He has to be the kind of Christian that doesn't cry.
<--This.... is unacceptable.


None of this either
<---No neck..... NOT
ACCEPTABLE


<----Do i even need to say anything....


Haha.. I kinda cry like that - that crying face could mean several things like, "honey, I'm sorry I'll never cheat again so pulease don't leave me (*sob)," or just realizing the magnitude of God's love for someone like me who is like a wave tossed in the ocean and a vapor in the wind and yet this God of universe loves me (and yes, I'm all by myself and I understand it's a ugly cry face).
 

christian74

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In a round about way, thats sort of my question. I've never been much of a complementarian, in terms of two people having very different approaches and skill sets coming into a relationship, but I can see the benefit. In the same way that I'm not a cat person, but there are very few dogs I would have traded my cat for.

I often wonder if the Lord would rather I be with someone very unlike me to sort of keep me grounded. Potentially, if I was with someone very much like me, there is no limit to the amount of trouble we could get into.

On the flip side, I am really creative and I would love to be with someone who "gets it" and feels it the way I do, especially considering a lot of other people don't. Maybe there is some secrets about this whole relationship thing that have yet to be revealed. Perhaps God would throw my red flags in my face to prove that obedience to Him is of greater importance than my own understanding.

I don't know, but I want what is important to Him to be what is important to me. If it means not dating another Missions Called Bond girl, I'm okay with that. At least I want to believe I'm okay with that.

I hear you - that's what I've been thinking a lot lately.
 

DuchessAimee

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It is very rare that people who are VERY similar work out in a relationship. There is a reason we crave balance and seek out people who are complimentary to us.




Liamson, opposite girl is good for you. It may not be long term, but the relationship is a really good idea.
 
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Is Christianity a safeguard? Objectively I know it is not.

If it were, at my age, I have seen I´m far from being John the Baptist or from any men on the Bible, though Peter had his wife and, probably, he may have felt discouraged when Jesus healed his mother in law... (Just a joke) :)

Thre is no ideal partner because I am an ideal partner for the other who might accept me. acceptance and committment is a must but, experiences have shown me people chang and I ALSO CHANGED so, as my last girl said: "Desahógate, pero no te ahogues".

We, as men and Christians can also play like lizards, changing colors, showing the best, instead of our complete truth. Since I dislike guessing and trying (or learning from errors) I will remain divorce and alone. I´m not missing a great thing in life (neither I will be missed).

Eternity will teach me the lesson I failed or missed up on earth. :)
 
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I couldn´t edit this: "There is no ideal partner because I am NOT an ideal partner"...
 

MartyrNdaMaKn

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I wouldn't mind some similarities, but I would not mind indifferent qualities, because that is what makes people unique.
 
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I don't know myself. Other than not believing in God, immaturity is a very big obstacle for me to get over ever since my early twenties. It's just hard for me to respect childish women anymore than I can respect men who never grow up. I used to think that women matured when they reached post-college age based on my observations. However, a 16-year-old young lady that was on chat here turned out to be more mature than a female coworker who is 23 years old and that just confused me to be honest. I like to have life figured out, I like to think that I already know what I want to find in a partner, but it never turns out like that...

Why should I seek for an ideal when I don't even know what I want myself? I feel cheap when I pray that I may end up in a relationship with a particular woman only to find I changed my mind only a short time later....I can't expect God to grant my prayers when it's not what I really want in the first place.

My idea for what I want is just wrong and only God knows what is best for me.