Will There Be Sex in Heaven?
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It says they won’t marry or be given in marriage. Being married before the resurrection is not getting married or being given in marriage if the marriage was never nullified.
I think in order to prove there is no sex in heaven it needs to be proven that resurrection does not reinstate a marriage.
So I’m leaning more toward yes there is sex in heaven.
I think in order to prove there is no sex in heaven it needs to be proven that resurrection does not reinstate a marriage.
So I’m leaning more toward yes there is sex in heaven.
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Please don't presume to know anything about me based off what I say. People do that all the time, but you see how often they're wrong. In a Rochester, NY church on my first day, I was able to tell just by my first meeting with four people (two couples) that they were satanists. After I told the pastors, they prayed and the evidence began to come out including evidence of a fifth one who I hadn't notice (because satanists can tell when someone poses them a threat and will circle around the person as much as possible). After they were discovered, they reached out to fellow satanists in Germany (because one of the ones in the church was from the Wegman family-- a German family with grocery stores in that area and around). Two of them, another couple, came from Germany posing as ministers (they were ministers in Germany) who wanted to learn certain spiritual things from the pastor and his wife. They came with money and promises to basically promote the church. The pastor's wife, a modern-day Balaam with dreams of prestige and recognition, was upset when I told her that these Germans were also satanists. But when she conferred with her prayer team, it all began to unravel just like the first time. They were exposed as satanists and there was small stir in the church. So they kicked me out. Lol.
The five resident satanists in that church had deceived everyone who judged them by what they said and did in public. They were all wrong. They had been entrenched safely in that church for fifteen years at the time. I recognized them my first day there. Some people are good at judging people's hearts and intentions by what they say and do. Most people aren't. If I tell someone to be humble, there's nothing secret to discover. I say what I mean and mean what I say. Don't complain about being admonished. Men don't want to hear it and women certainly don't care to hear it. If God, who gave me insight about those six satanists (but not a seventh one), doesn't give you insight about me, then you'll have none. By your comments, I trust God will never give you insight about me (or about anyone for that matter), so save us both some time and don't make a fool of yourself by reaching and trying. But if you want reason about Scripture here and truly want to grow in spiritual knowledge, then we can do that. On the converse, if you idolize spiritual knowledge or general knowledge and want to pursue your dream that I don't 'know', then you're sure to make yourself look bad. Like, really bad. But you're welcome to open a discussion if you'd like.
As for sex in Heaven (etc.), the topic is simply taboo. I believe that most people who say, "Oh, there can't be sex in Heaven" are really saying, "There shouldn't be sex in Heaven because sex is bad." Lol. People who quickly shoot down the notion of sex in Heaven expose the fact that they don't think through things. How? Well, in the Bible we have angels who are spiritual beings not only taking on human bodies and having sex with human women... and then also conceiving with them. What part of that makes sense? Sure, angels can take on human form... but where does their sperm come from... and why can they reproduce with humans (two vastly different races)? Earth-born animals can't reproduce with each other... so how can Heaven-born beings reproduce with earth-born humans? Why didn't God lock lucifer up when he was cast out of Heaven? Why did God-- who made Earth to be a safe place-- send him down here where he steal, kill, and destroy? Those who can't answer those questions shouldn't be quick to say, "This is impossible. That is possible." If angels can have sex and procreate with humans on earth, why can't humans to who God gave sex with each other have sex with each other and procreate in Heaven?
christians are known the world-over for being prideful and arrogant. (If you don't know that, you need to get away from the christian crowd more often and breathe.) Because this is often true, christians tend to propose or promote doctrine from a point of "I know this is true, and no one can argue against it." I don't function that way. When I propose something, I'm proposing it for consideration, not for people to launch attacks and 'choose sides'. christians often don't think; they just feel and then wonder why life sucks. The Bible constantly encourages God's people to think. Feelings makes people feel safer and more secure while thinking forces people to be responsible. christians who are used to just feeling can't even see this when they read the Bible. In Proverbs 24:30-34, Solomon said that he gained deeper understanding about a man's poverty by thinking. Everyone knew the man was lazy because of the obvious evidence. Solomon wanted to know more than what he saw on the surface. He said, "I considered it well;
I looked on it and received understanding." Paul couldn't tell Timothy every single thing Timothy needed to know, so Paul said to Timothy, "Consider what I say, and the Lord with give you understanding in all things" (2Timothy 2:7) just as "His divine power has given us everything we need for life and godliness" (2Peter 1:3). Paul knew that God is able and willing to reveal "all things" (about all things, including new secular inventions, not just spiritual things) to the person who seeks, considers, thinks. God strongly desires to give His people wisdom and revelation in both spiritual and practical things. Most christians are too lazy or indifferent to even know this or take advantage of it. The person who finds (gains understanding) is the person who seeks (considers). This is how people invent things, find new innovations, etc. Too bad people who don't seek (think) don't know this but are often too busy hating people who do. You're in over your head.
The five resident satanists in that church had deceived everyone who judged them by what they said and did in public. They were all wrong. They had been entrenched safely in that church for fifteen years at the time. I recognized them my first day there. Some people are good at judging people's hearts and intentions by what they say and do. Most people aren't. If I tell someone to be humble, there's nothing secret to discover. I say what I mean and mean what I say. Don't complain about being admonished. Men don't want to hear it and women certainly don't care to hear it. If God, who gave me insight about those six satanists (but not a seventh one), doesn't give you insight about me, then you'll have none. By your comments, I trust God will never give you insight about me (or about anyone for that matter), so save us both some time and don't make a fool of yourself by reaching and trying. But if you want reason about Scripture here and truly want to grow in spiritual knowledge, then we can do that. On the converse, if you idolize spiritual knowledge or general knowledge and want to pursue your dream that I don't 'know', then you're sure to make yourself look bad. Like, really bad. But you're welcome to open a discussion if you'd like.
As for sex in Heaven (etc.), the topic is simply taboo. I believe that most people who say, "Oh, there can't be sex in Heaven" are really saying, "There shouldn't be sex in Heaven because sex is bad." Lol. People who quickly shoot down the notion of sex in Heaven expose the fact that they don't think through things. How? Well, in the Bible we have angels who are spiritual beings not only taking on human bodies and having sex with human women... and then also conceiving with them. What part of that makes sense? Sure, angels can take on human form... but where does their sperm come from... and why can they reproduce with humans (two vastly different races)? Earth-born animals can't reproduce with each other... so how can Heaven-born beings reproduce with earth-born humans? Why didn't God lock lucifer up when he was cast out of Heaven? Why did God-- who made Earth to be a safe place-- send him down here where he steal, kill, and destroy? Those who can't answer those questions shouldn't be quick to say, "This is impossible. That is possible." If angels can have sex and procreate with humans on earth, why can't humans to who God gave sex with each other have sex with each other and procreate in Heaven?
christians are known the world-over for being prideful and arrogant. (If you don't know that, you need to get away from the christian crowd more often and breathe.) Because this is often true, christians tend to propose or promote doctrine from a point of "I know this is true, and no one can argue against it." I don't function that way. When I propose something, I'm proposing it for consideration, not for people to launch attacks and 'choose sides'. christians often don't think; they just feel and then wonder why life sucks. The Bible constantly encourages God's people to think. Feelings makes people feel safer and more secure while thinking forces people to be responsible. christians who are used to just feeling can't even see this when they read the Bible. In Proverbs 24:30-34, Solomon said that he gained deeper understanding about a man's poverty by thinking. Everyone knew the man was lazy because of the obvious evidence. Solomon wanted to know more than what he saw on the surface. He said, "I considered it well;
I looked on it and received understanding." Paul couldn't tell Timothy every single thing Timothy needed to know, so Paul said to Timothy, "Consider what I say, and the Lord with give you understanding in all things" (2Timothy 2:7) just as "His divine power has given us everything we need for life and godliness" (2Peter 1:3). Paul knew that God is able and willing to reveal "all things" (about all things, including new secular inventions, not just spiritual things) to the person who seeks, considers, thinks. God strongly desires to give His people wisdom and revelation in both spiritual and practical things. Most christians are too lazy or indifferent to even know this or take advantage of it. The person who finds (gains understanding) is the person who seeks (considers). This is how people invent things, find new innovations, etc. Too bad people who don't seek (think) don't know this but are often too busy hating people who do. You're in over your head.
In Heaven your mind won't be defiled, so why would sex not be allowed?
Most of the time, I ask questions to make people (because most people don't think), not really to get answers. People in ancient times, Jesus included, did this all the time. Everyone has already chosen sides in most matters which makes them unable to think. Making a person think is far better than trying to convince them of your point. This is what Paul did in Acts 17 to the Athenians. It's my favorite sermon in the entire NT because of Paul's approach. The whole thing is brilliant from start to finish.
What people do with sex or how they view it doesn't change its place in God's plan and design. God isn't like us: He doesn't throw away a good thing because it has been defiled. The apostolic and prophetic ministries (not to mention the pastoral ministry) have been heavily defiled in our day. You think God is going to throw them out because humans defiled them? He'd be a weakling if He let people's opinions sway His own determination. He isn't that. Sex is good, not bad. When people make it bad, it remains good. God sees things from an eternal (immutable) perspective. Things don't change because we think they did. Things are the way they are, especially good things.
The question isn't whether or not sex is good or bad, whether or not people are responsible with it, whether or not this and that. The question is whether or not there will be sex in Heaven. Why that question? Because sex is good, and God doesn't nullify or revoke good things. He promotes and ratifies them. That's why the question is a good question. It's not just a question. Thought went into it. You can think about it, or you can just toss it and say, "It's irrelevant, so I don't need to think about it." Indeed, you don't have to do anything good or bad.
Most of the time, I ask questions to make people (because most people don't think), not really to get answers. People in ancient times, Jesus included, did this all the time. Everyone has already chosen sides in most matters which makes them unable to think. Making a person think is far better than trying to convince them of your point. This is what Paul did in Acts 17 to the Athenians. It's my favorite sermon in the entire NT because of Paul's approach. The whole thing is brilliant from start to finish.
What people do with sex or how they view it doesn't change its place in God's plan and design. God isn't like us: He doesn't throw away a good thing because it has been defiled. The apostolic and prophetic ministries (not to mention the pastoral ministry) have been heavily defiled in our day. You think God is going to throw them out because humans defiled them? He'd be a weakling if He let people's opinions sway His own determination. He isn't that. Sex is good, not bad. When people make it bad, it remains good. God sees things from an eternal (immutable) perspective. Things don't change because we think they did. Things are the way they are, especially good things.
The question isn't whether or not sex is good or bad, whether or not people are responsible with it, whether or not this and that. The question is whether or not there will be sex in Heaven. Why that question? Because sex is good, and God doesn't nullify or revoke good things. He promotes and ratifies them. That's why the question is a good question. It's not just a question. Thought went into it. You can think about it, or you can just toss it and say, "It's irrelevant, so I don't need to think about it." Indeed, you don't have to do anything good or bad.
I wouldn't be surprised if the 'final answer' on this topic is hidden in that Book.
Also, it's important to add that I don't know the answer to this. My line of reasoning, however, is that God never makes and gives a good thing and then takes it away and that if He takes away sex in eternity, I'd be genuinely surprised because He never takes away good things. Like ever.
God has integrity and continuity with this fact throughout eternity to the extent that when He kicked lucifer and his ilk out of Heaven, God took none of their power or gifts He gave to them from them. They can ruin and destroy because they still have those gifts God gave them, because though they use them for evil, they are good and God gave them. If God doesn't take good things from these destroyers, why would He take good things from Creation and from His own people? It makes no sense and while some people argue that not everything God does makes sense, it's more about giving good and then taking it away. God never did that in history, not one time. It's just not His style, therefore, "The gifts and callings of God are irrevocable" (Romans 11:29). Knowing that God's gifts (eg. sex) and callings (eg. procreation and extending humanity throughout the earth) are irrevocable makes my question worthier of consideration rather than dumb and unworthy of attention like some people think.
Also, it's important to add that I don't know the answer to this. My line of reasoning, however, is that God never makes and gives a good thing and then takes it away and that if He takes away sex in eternity, I'd be genuinely surprised because He never takes away good things. Like ever.
God has integrity and continuity with this fact throughout eternity to the extent that when He kicked lucifer and his ilk out of Heaven, God took none of their power or gifts He gave to them from them. They can ruin and destroy because they still have those gifts God gave them, because though they use them for evil, they are good and God gave them. If God doesn't take good things from these destroyers, why would He take good things from Creation and from His own people? It makes no sense and while some people argue that not everything God does makes sense, it's more about giving good and then taking it away. God never did that in history, not one time. It's just not His style, therefore, "The gifts and callings of God are irrevocable" (Romans 11:29). Knowing that God's gifts (eg. sex) and callings (eg. procreation and extending humanity throughout the earth) are irrevocable makes my question worthier of consideration rather than dumb and unworthy of attention like some people think.
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I read it. I don't agree with everything he said which isn't a problem since "we all know in part and prophesy in part." I still don't know the full answer. One of the things I want to continually experience here on earth and also bring others into the experience of is that God is good. So much happens that doesn't show God as good (needless suffering and pain on earth, unanswered prayers, etc.), but intuitively or in my spirit, I know without a doubt that God is good, therefore my favorite verse in the Bible that says God is good simply says, "Surely (without a doubt), God is good" (Psalm 73:1). Amen.
Especially in the OT, you often see God's people-- especially the leaders, kings, priests, prophets, etc.-- begging God to display His goodness. There are too many verses to list but one is "Oh that You would rend the heavens and come down" (Isaiah 64:1). Isaiah was basically saying, "We can try our best, but we can't really show You to people. Come down and show them Yourself."
Isaiah, speaking of himself and other people who desire God to show His goodness Himself, said, "Yes, in the way of Your judgments, oh LORD, we have waited (have waited, are waiting, will continue to wait) for You; the desire of our soul is for Your name and for the remembrance of You" (Isa. 26:8). While some people (christians and non) do believe or think that God is 'judgmental' (ie. willing to judge and condemn those who don't please Him), very few people actually believe that God is good. The remembrance of His Name has to do with seeing or experiencing that He in fact is good, because God's Name has everything to do with His goodness, but most people don't know or believe that He is good. (In Exodus 33, when Moses told God, "Show me Your glory", God's immediate response was, "I will make all My goodness pass before you, and I will proclaim the name of the Lord before you...")
Logic (hopefully) follows that if imperfect human beings (ie. the prophets and people of God through history who pray for God to show up for people to 'see Him' for themselves) have the desire to see God glorified (ie. to see Him show His goodness)... then God is far more willing to show people that He's good. Since most people don't believe that God is good (this is natural and okay), God is always 'glad' when people can see through what it seems like and see that even when He doesn't want to do good, He wants to. The Canaanite woman whose daughter Jesus delivered and the Roman Centurion whose servant Jesus healed both had eyes of faith and were therefore able to see that even though things seemed different on the surface. (Ie. for the Canaanite woman, Jesus said rude things that would naturally make a person not want to bother Him any longer; and the Centurion knew that a Jew wouldn't be willing to help any Roman oppressor-- yet both approached Him in confidence because they could see beneath the surface of what things seemed like, sounded like, or were supposed to be.)
In John 12:28 when Jesus said to God, "Father, glorify Your Name," God immediately responded, "I have both glorified it and will glorify it again." God's response was basically, "You don't have to tell Me twice." In a world filled with people who don't know or believe that God is good since life certainly isn't very good to us, God is definitely glorified to show that He in fact is good. This is why I said that I would be surprised if there is no sex in eternity. I would be genuinely surprised because while that seems like something God would do, it just isn't how He is in character. God did things in the Bible that He didn't want to do (I won't get into that unless you ask), therefore, it is important to be able to distinguish what God does, allows, even sanctions from what God wants, desires, or likes. Most christians and non-christians don't do this and tend to approach God from the view of one who is Judge and what He says goes and you better shut your mouth and don't make Him angry. Once in a while, someone comes along who can see beneath God's 'hard exterior' (too many examples to list but all the men and women of faith fit here such as Abraham (who reasoned with God about destroying Sodom, etc.), Moses (who reasoned with God about destroying Israel), Deborah (who didn't have any problem believing God could deliver Israel from the Canaanites), the prophets and apostles, and many more who reasoned past the exterior of what God allowed or did and into God's heart and what He actually wanted to do).
"Do not be afraid, little flock, because it is your Father's good pleasure to give you the Kingdom" (Luke 12:32).
Especially in the OT, you often see God's people-- especially the leaders, kings, priests, prophets, etc.-- begging God to display His goodness. There are too many verses to list but one is "Oh that You would rend the heavens and come down" (Isaiah 64:1). Isaiah was basically saying, "We can try our best, but we can't really show You to people. Come down and show them Yourself."
Isaiah, speaking of himself and other people who desire God to show His goodness Himself, said, "Yes, in the way of Your judgments, oh LORD, we have waited (have waited, are waiting, will continue to wait) for You; the desire of our soul is for Your name and for the remembrance of You" (Isa. 26:8). While some people (christians and non) do believe or think that God is 'judgmental' (ie. willing to judge and condemn those who don't please Him), very few people actually believe that God is good. The remembrance of His Name has to do with seeing or experiencing that He in fact is good, because God's Name has everything to do with His goodness, but most people don't know or believe that He is good. (In Exodus 33, when Moses told God, "Show me Your glory", God's immediate response was, "I will make all My goodness pass before you, and I will proclaim the name of the Lord before you...")
Logic (hopefully) follows that if imperfect human beings (ie. the prophets and people of God through history who pray for God to show up for people to 'see Him' for themselves) have the desire to see God glorified (ie. to see Him show His goodness)... then God is far more willing to show people that He's good. Since most people don't believe that God is good (this is natural and okay), God is always 'glad' when people can see through what it seems like and see that even when He doesn't want to do good, He wants to. The Canaanite woman whose daughter Jesus delivered and the Roman Centurion whose servant Jesus healed both had eyes of faith and were therefore able to see that even though things seemed different on the surface. (Ie. for the Canaanite woman, Jesus said rude things that would naturally make a person not want to bother Him any longer; and the Centurion knew that a Jew wouldn't be willing to help any Roman oppressor-- yet both approached Him in confidence because they could see beneath the surface of what things seemed like, sounded like, or were supposed to be.)
In John 12:28 when Jesus said to God, "Father, glorify Your Name," God immediately responded, "I have both glorified it and will glorify it again." God's response was basically, "You don't have to tell Me twice." In a world filled with people who don't know or believe that God is good since life certainly isn't very good to us, God is definitely glorified to show that He in fact is good. This is why I said that I would be surprised if there is no sex in eternity. I would be genuinely surprised because while that seems like something God would do, it just isn't how He is in character. God did things in the Bible that He didn't want to do (I won't get into that unless you ask), therefore, it is important to be able to distinguish what God does, allows, even sanctions from what God wants, desires, or likes. Most christians and non-christians don't do this and tend to approach God from the view of one who is Judge and what He says goes and you better shut your mouth and don't make Him angry. Once in a while, someone comes along who can see beneath God's 'hard exterior' (too many examples to list but all the men and women of faith fit here such as Abraham (who reasoned with God about destroying Sodom, etc.), Moses (who reasoned with God about destroying Israel), Deborah (who didn't have any problem believing God could deliver Israel from the Canaanites), the prophets and apostles, and many more who reasoned past the exterior of what God allowed or did and into God's heart and what He actually wanted to do).
"Do not be afraid, little flock, because it is your Father's good pleasure to give you the Kingdom" (Luke 12:32).
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Thinking about it is ok. Let's think about it. It has nothing to do with sex being bad. Some things are designed for this life only not for the resurrection and the world to come.
The Gifts of the Holy Spirit are a good thing. They are spiritual even. And yet they end when that which is perfect is come (1 Cor 13) which Paul said was when we are partakers of the resurrection and as Jesus said "that world to come."
Marriage ends in this life. "Until death do we part" or a version of those words are in wedding vows because theologians and bible believers have understood Jesus words for 2000 years to say that we will not be married in heaven.
There are many things that are "this life only." Sex and marriage (which should always be spoken of together in the context of what God has ordained) is one of them. We know this for sure because Jesus told us.
If someone wants to question whether Jesus meant that we will not marry or have sex in heaven when we are resurrected then I suppose a Google search and a few commentaries should set them on the path to discovery.
As far as I know this text is not one that has a history of many interpretations. If you find that no one is having a difficult time understanding this statement you have to question why you are. Is it the English translation you are using? Where are you stumbling with the comprehension of his meaning? Because he did not say "sex?" If we are not married in heaven that would include sex. Jesus didn't have to go into graphic detail. Jewish literature didn't do that as rule. When someone knew someone that was about as close as you will get to "sex". Saying they don't marry but are like the angels should be clear to most people without saying something about "sex" an activity only permitted between married people. It is silly to make this complicated.
The Gifts of the Holy Spirit are a good thing. They are spiritual even. And yet they end when that which is perfect is come (1 Cor 13) which Paul said was when we are partakers of the resurrection and as Jesus said "that world to come."
Marriage ends in this life. "Until death do we part" or a version of those words are in wedding vows because theologians and bible believers have understood Jesus words for 2000 years to say that we will not be married in heaven.
There are many things that are "this life only." Sex and marriage (which should always be spoken of together in the context of what God has ordained) is one of them. We know this for sure because Jesus told us.
If someone wants to question whether Jesus meant that we will not marry or have sex in heaven when we are resurrected then I suppose a Google search and a few commentaries should set them on the path to discovery.
As far as I know this text is not one that has a history of many interpretations. If you find that no one is having a difficult time understanding this statement you have to question why you are. Is it the English translation you are using? Where are you stumbling with the comprehension of his meaning? Because he did not say "sex?" If we are not married in heaven that would include sex. Jesus didn't have to go into graphic detail. Jewish literature didn't do that as rule. When someone knew someone that was about as close as you will get to "sex". Saying they don't marry but are like the angels should be clear to most people without saying something about "sex" an activity only permitted between married people. It is silly to make this complicated.
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They asked him which one of the seven men would have the widow as wife.
34And Jesus answering said unto them, The children of this world marry, and are given in marriage: 35But they which shall be accounted worthy to obtain that world, and the resurrection from the dead, neither marry, nor are given in marriage:
By answering this way Jesus is saying that none of them will have the widow for a wife.
They thought that the resurrection was a myth and they thought that this question would cause Jesus not to be able to answer which of the 7 men would have the widow because the whole idea of the resurrection wasnt true and Jesus would be stumbling over himself trying to say which husband would get her.
But Jesus tells them that none of them will be married. They were WRONG for their assumptions that one of them would get her.
People of the resurrection wont be married. That is a "this world only thing and not something done in that world"
If you come up with a reasoning why one of them gets the wife then you basically put yourself in the mindset of the Sadducees that were asking Jesus this question and you will be in error as they were.
34And Jesus answering said unto them, The children of this world marry, and are given in marriage: 35But they which shall be accounted worthy to obtain that world, and the resurrection from the dead, neither marry, nor are given in marriage:
By answering this way Jesus is saying that none of them will have the widow for a wife.
They thought that the resurrection was a myth and they thought that this question would cause Jesus not to be able to answer which of the 7 men would have the widow because the whole idea of the resurrection wasnt true and Jesus would be stumbling over himself trying to say which husband would get her.
But Jesus tells them that none of them will be married. They were WRONG for their assumptions that one of them would get her.
People of the resurrection wont be married. That is a "this world only thing and not something done in that world"
If you come up with a reasoning why one of them gets the wife then you basically put yourself in the mindset of the Sadducees that were asking Jesus this question and you will be in error as they were.
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To me, sex doesn't belong in heaven unless it is a very sanctified version (meaning a truly spiritual connection, etc.). Even in Godly marriages, sex is mostly used to fulfill lustful urges. There are a lot of threads on sex on this forum, how a wife is obligated even if she doesn't feel like it, how sex is a "need" especially for the man, etc. So, I don't even think that sex withing Godly marriages on earth would make the cut.
Another reason I believe we won't have sex is because Jesus never had sex. So, I think we need to meet that standard in heaven, to be celibate.
Paul also said that marriage/sex takes away time from God. The way I understand, Heaven is 24/7 worship.
Another reason I believe we won't have sex is because Jesus never had sex. So, I think we need to meet that standard in heaven, to be celibate.
Paul also said that marriage/sex takes away time from God. The way I understand, Heaven is 24/7 worship.
God gave us the Holy Spirit for issues like this. Commentaries can help you think more, but they don't have the ability to give you revelation. Jesus said that satan cannot prevail against a Church that is built on and functions on [the rock of] revelation. (He can prevail on those that aren't. Same principle as the man who built on the rock vs. sand.) Why can't satan prevail against a people founded on God's revelation? Because he doesn't have any holes or cracks: God knows all things, and to a people who depend on and receive from what God knows (which is everything), satan can't enter, break in, deceive, waylay, or influence because they are guarded on every side. I'll leave that there for now, but I brought up revelation because...
God created male and female. Men communicate more often directly, logically, and straightforward while women often communicate more indirectly, emotionally, and metaphorically/figuratively. God distributed His masculine and feminine nature to both parties and naturally would then communicate like both parties. As much as we might hate to realize this, God talks in the Bible more in a feminine communicative way than masculine. It would be nice to read the Bible and think, "What it says is what it means." This couldn't be farther from the truth. God's primary mode of communication is spiritual and figurative (ie. feminine). He gave us the Holy Spirit to interpret much of what He says because we can't understand them without an interpreter. If you suppose it isn't true that God (at least in the Bible) mostly communicates in the 'feminine way', then read this interaction in John 16 between Jesus and His disciples at the end of three years relating and communicating with them:
Jesus said, "I came forth from the Father and have come into the world. Again, I leave the world and go to the Father."
His disciples responded (in unison, lol), "See, now You are speaking plainly, and using no figures of speech! Now we are sure that You know all things, and have no need that anyone should question You. By this we believe that You came forth from God." They couldn't understand all those things Jesus said to them because He usually spoke figuratively (or I'll say in the feminine tense).
Jesus responded, "Do you now believe me?" He then continued, abandoning the use of only plain speech and instead interspersing both plain speech and figurative speech. This is just a fact of life that many would do well to apprehend: God usually speaks in spiritual/figurative (feminine) language which cannot be apprehended like logical (masculine) language can. He does this for many reasons (I won't try to list the few reasons I know) but one reason is to 'force' christians to grow which doesn't happen when everything is easy to do or understand. For this reason, there are few things in the Bible you can look at and say, "Oh, this is 100% this way and that's the end of the story." Not even Jesus's disciples knew He was the Son of God until God delivered it to Peter by revelation. Without God's revelation, we don't know. We just believe. Believing isn't bad; but it isn't nearly as advanced as knowing. At the end of the day, God wants His people to not just believe Him but to know Him. Knowing God and His ways (the way He does things, the way He talks, etc.) takes time just like it takes in any relationship to get to know a person. The more complex a person is, the more patience you need to understand how the person thinks and functions. That's why I asked this question about sex in Heaven... because I don't know the answer, and I'm aware that I don't know the answer. I only believe what I believe until God reveals the truth about it to me. Then I'll know.
God created male and female. Men communicate more often directly, logically, and straightforward while women often communicate more indirectly, emotionally, and metaphorically/figuratively. God distributed His masculine and feminine nature to both parties and naturally would then communicate like both parties. As much as we might hate to realize this, God talks in the Bible more in a feminine communicative way than masculine. It would be nice to read the Bible and think, "What it says is what it means." This couldn't be farther from the truth. God's primary mode of communication is spiritual and figurative (ie. feminine). He gave us the Holy Spirit to interpret much of what He says because we can't understand them without an interpreter. If you suppose it isn't true that God (at least in the Bible) mostly communicates in the 'feminine way', then read this interaction in John 16 between Jesus and His disciples at the end of three years relating and communicating with them:
Jesus said, "I came forth from the Father and have come into the world. Again, I leave the world and go to the Father."
His disciples responded (in unison, lol), "See, now You are speaking plainly, and using no figures of speech! Now we are sure that You know all things, and have no need that anyone should question You. By this we believe that You came forth from God." They couldn't understand all those things Jesus said to them because He usually spoke figuratively (or I'll say in the feminine tense).
Jesus responded, "Do you now believe me?" He then continued, abandoning the use of only plain speech and instead interspersing both plain speech and figurative speech. This is just a fact of life that many would do well to apprehend: God usually speaks in spiritual/figurative (feminine) language which cannot be apprehended like logical (masculine) language can. He does this for many reasons (I won't try to list the few reasons I know) but one reason is to 'force' christians to grow which doesn't happen when everything is easy to do or understand. For this reason, there are few things in the Bible you can look at and say, "Oh, this is 100% this way and that's the end of the story." Not even Jesus's disciples knew He was the Son of God until God delivered it to Peter by revelation. Without God's revelation, we don't know. We just believe. Believing isn't bad; but it isn't nearly as advanced as knowing. At the end of the day, God wants His people to not just believe Him but to know Him. Knowing God and His ways (the way He does things, the way He talks, etc.) takes time just like it takes in any relationship to get to know a person. The more complex a person is, the more patience you need to understand how the person thinks and functions. That's why I asked this question about sex in Heaven... because I don't know the answer, and I'm aware that I don't know the answer. I only believe what I believe until God reveals the truth about it to me. Then I'll know.
We have opinions, preferences, and fears about things. God only has truth. I want to find His truth on the issue.
I'm aware of all the downsides of life, sex, marriage, etc. But God moves ahead with His plan and will in spite of all the downsides. It's about God's character and what God wants rather than about sex, marriage, and childbearing.
I don't see much good in relationships today. And yes, some men say women need to give them sex whenever, etc. But I disagree that sex is a greater need for men than women. In the past, I didn't get how people thought this but I can see that people don't think much to begin with.
From the time I was in college, I began to realize that there's a wide divide (and hostility too) between men and women when it comes to romantic relationships. No one seems to understand much about it no matter how old or how much experience they have. God designed it all, however, so He'll have all the answers. It's good to listen to and read from others on the issue(s), but I think it makes sense to go to God for the fullness of the answers (or for the multi-faceted answers so you don't get and run with one or two answers from some author for a relational topic that God has ten answers for).
Needless to say, salvation is possible without knowing one thing beyond the fact that Jesus died and rose to save souls. But God wants us to know more. Besides, knowing adds life to life, because knowing helps a person know God more in this life before Heaven. The more you know God in this life, the more full your life can be, and the more life you have available to you that you can give, share, and impart to others.
I'm aware of all the downsides of life, sex, marriage, etc. But God moves ahead with His plan and will in spite of all the downsides. It's about God's character and what God wants rather than about sex, marriage, and childbearing.
I don't see much good in relationships today. And yes, some men say women need to give them sex whenever, etc. But I disagree that sex is a greater need for men than women. In the past, I didn't get how people thought this but I can see that people don't think much to begin with.
From the time I was in college, I began to realize that there's a wide divide (and hostility too) between men and women when it comes to romantic relationships. No one seems to understand much about it no matter how old or how much experience they have. God designed it all, however, so He'll have all the answers. It's good to listen to and read from others on the issue(s), but I think it makes sense to go to God for the fullness of the answers (or for the multi-faceted answers so you don't get and run with one or two answers from some author for a relational topic that God has ten answers for).
Needless to say, salvation is possible without knowing one thing beyond the fact that Jesus died and rose to save souls. But God wants us to know more. Besides, knowing adds life to life, because knowing helps a person know God more in this life before Heaven. The more you know God in this life, the more full your life can be, and the more life you have available to you that you can give, share, and impart to others.
Jesus said that they won’t marry nor be given in marriage.
If they’re married before the resurrection then being reunited isn’t getting remarried since they’re already married.
The question becomes then if resurrection allows a pre-existing marriage to continue. So far I see no reason why not.
This isn’t Sadducee thinking, this is Biblical thinking. Did you know they practice polygamy because it was allowed by their laws? A resurrection where people are sharing the same spouse wasn’t a problem back then.
If they’re married before the resurrection then being reunited isn’t getting remarried since they’re already married.
The question becomes then if resurrection allows a pre-existing marriage to continue. So far I see no reason why not.
This isn’t Sadducee thinking, this is Biblical thinking. Did you know they practice polygamy because it was allowed by their laws? A resurrection where people are sharing the same spouse wasn’t a problem back then.
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Yeah Sons, we ultimately don't know. What we do know is this: God made pleasure for humans. It was never intended to be an idol, but as an enhancement to life. There are good pleasures that He made, we know this because He called His creation "very good", and He promised to restore all things. So, we shall see. I hope there is, not unless, as Franklin Graham says, there's something better 
And crap there'd better be something, because it ain't happening much in this life!
And crap there'd better be something, because it ain't happening much in this life!-
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