Tell me would you kill...

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Would you kill when...

  • If you were at war and it was an unsuspecting enemy soldier

    Votes: 18 41.9%
  • If you didn't kill this person they would kill you

    Votes: 24 55.8%
  • If you didn't kill this person they would leave you but kill you family

    Votes: 23 53.5%
  • If it was a terrorist attacking your church while everyone was inside

    Votes: 24 55.8%
  • If a terrorist was attacking a supermarket with loads of non-christians inside

    Votes: 25 58.1%
  • I would never kill!

    Votes: 10 23.3%

  • Total voters
    43
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A_Silent_Gnome

Guest
#41
The average person can't be trusted to understand the difference between good and evil or to act as Judge/Jury/Executioner. In a society where everyone is armed to the teeth and just waiting for an excuse to kill someone, biding their time until they can act on that instinct, listening to talk radio personalities telling them about how everyone is out to get them ....
Your going off into a different topic. Whether the average person is capable or not is not part of the question. The question is, MAY the average person.. better said, any person have the option of killing for good reasons? The answer is yes. Were talking about right and wrong. What can be done and killing can be done for good reasons. Like, defending your own life.

Jesus was completely okay with a soldier. It's clear that murder and killing are different. Jesus Christ didn't condemn a soldier instead he said commented good things about him. If taking life was ALWAYS wrong then Jesus would've said something to the soldier... surely Jesus would've told the soldier to give up being a soldier. The implications are strong.

There is a good way to take life, even the teenagers see it. Read their posts, this is common knowledge. It's okay to defend yourself by killing someone if your life is at stake.

The Israelites had an army and God lead this army against evil nations.
 
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Theophane

Guest
#42
We all see ourselves reflected in the mirror of Scripture, don't we?

I can't account for the differences in personal interpretation.
 

respekt

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Mar 5, 2013
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#43
I'd rather be killed than killing people. I got no guts to do that but I don't know if now I'm facing the real situation.
 
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#44
If you didn't kill this person they would leave you but kill your family

I love my mom and dad way more than myself, she cared for me on her own and it was an everyday struggle as a single mom, dad and his brothers had to pick cotton out in the fields for cash everyday. i regret giving them so many problems and causing them so much pain.

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DorothyG

Guest
#45
To murder means to kill unjustly.

The Bible says not to murder anyone.
 
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DorothyG

Guest
#46
Aw man, old post T.T
 
Jul 12, 2013
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#47
No, No, No, No, No, Maybe

"And today's top story...in a recent survey taken on a prominent on-line Christian social network concerning whether or not Christians would premeditatively kill or murder another human being in cold blood, a surprising and rather shockingly high number answered yes! With us today is guest speaker Mortimer Snerd...Mr. Snerd, what's your take on the alarmingly fast-growing trend of blood-thirsty Christians in the nation and what can be done to solve this problem?"
 
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xXErraticEmilyXx

Guest
#48
If I felt like it was the only way to protect myself or someone else, then yes.
 
Jul 12, 2013
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#49
Rico Suave

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Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act, commonly referred to as the RICO Act or simply RICO, is a United States federal law that provides for extended criminal penalties and a civil cause of action for acts performed as part of an ongoing criminal organization. The RICO Act focuses specifically on racketeering, and it allows the leaders of a syndicate to be tried for the crimes which they ordered others to do or assisted them, closing a perceived loophole that allowed someone who told a man to, for example, murder, to be exempt from the trial because he did not actually commit the crime personally.

RICO was enacted by section 901(a) of the Organized Crime Control Act of 1970 (Pub.L. 91–452, 84 Stat. 922, enacted October 15, 1970). RICO is codified as Chapter 96 of Title 18 of the United States Code, 18 U.S.C. § 1961–1968. Under the close supervision of Senator John Little McClellan, the Chairman of the Committee for which he worked, G. Robert Blakey drafted the "RICO Act," Title IX of the Organized Crime Control Act of 1970, signed into law by Richard M. Nixon.[1]While its original use in the 1970s was to prosecute the Mafia as well as others who were actively engaged in organized crime, its later application has been more widespread.

Under RICO, a person who has committed "at least two acts of racketeering activity" drawn from a list of 35 crimes—27 federal crimes and 8 state crimes—within a 10-year period, if such acts are related in one of four specified ways to an "enterprise," can be charged with racketeering. Those found guilty of racketeering can be fined up to $25,000 and sentenced to 20 years in prison per racketeering count. In addition, the racketeer must forfeit all ill-gotten gains and interest in any business gained through a pattern of "racketeering activity." RICO also permits a private individual harmed by the actions of such racketeers to file a civil suit; if successful, the individual can collect treble damages (damages in triple the amount of actual/compensatory damages).

When the U.S. Attorney decides to indict someone under RICO, he or she has the option of seeking a pre-trial restraining order or injunction to temporarily seize a defendant's assets and prevent the transfer of potentially forfeitable property, as well as require the defendant to put up a performance bond. This provision was placed in the law because the owners of Mafia-related shell corporations often absconded with the assets. An injunction and/or performance bond ensures that there is something to seize in the event of a guilty verdict.

In many cases, the threat of a RICO indictment can force defendants to plead guilty to lesser charges, in part because the seizure of assets would make it difficult to pay a defense attorney. Despite its harsh provisions, a RICO-related charge is considered easy to prove in court, as it focuses on patterns of behavior as opposed to criminal acts.[SUP][1][/SUP]

There is also a provision for private parties to sue. A "person damaged in his business or property" can sue one or more "racketeers". The plaintiff must prove the existence of an "enterprise". The defendant(s) are not the enterprise; in other words, the defendant(s) and the enterprise are not one and the same.[SUP][2][/SUP] There must be one of four specified relationships between the defendant(s) and the enterprise: either the defendant(s) invested the proceeds of the pattern of racketeering activity into the enterprise; or the defendant(s) acquired or maintained an interest in, or control over, the enterprise through the pattern of racketeering activity; or the defendant(s) conducted or participated in the affairs of the enterprise "through" the pattern of racketeering activity; or the defendant(s) conspired to do one of the above.[SUP][3][/SUP] In essence, the enterprise is either the 'prize,' 'instrument,' 'victim,' or 'perpetrator' of the racketeers.[SUP][4][/SUP] A civil RICO action can be filed in state or federal court.[SUP][5][/SUP]

Both the federal and civil components allow the recovery of treble damages.

Although its primary intent was to deal with organized crime, Blakey said that Congress never intended it to merely apply to the Mob. He once told Time, "We don't want one set of rules for people whose collars are blue or whose names end in vowels, and another set for those whose collars are white and have Ivy League diplomas."[SUP][1][/SUP]
 
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Jesusismyrock

Guest
#50
Murdering is a sin but killing in self defence isn't I'm pretty sure.if you are in a war and you will die if you don't kill them, then it's silly not to kill them unless you want to die then and there. A terrorist attack on a church- yes I would, how could I sit back and watch some person kill people like that, taking one life compared to many. Killing in this way isn't a sin I don't reckon and if it is, then it's one I'd be willing to take, seeing people sin all the time, i know sinning is wrong but seeing it happens all the time, if this was actually a sin, it's also a helpful sin, that sounds ridiculous but sinning to save lives
 
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Grey

Guest
#51
What worries me is the first option, there was no context behind it. It could be any war!
 
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drewdawgGA99

Guest
#52
this is not so hypothetical for me, because i am in US MCROTC, which is training fo the US Marine Corps...i will have to fight...and possibly take lives...but for my country...and as pertaining to the family question, that brings up the whole legal issue of self defense
 
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SkilletPanhead

Guest
#53
Look at it this way: All crocodiles are reptiles but not all reptiles are crocodiles. All murder is killing but not all killing is murder. If you kill an innocent person because you want his money, you are murdering. If you kill someone who is about to pull the trigger on you and/or your children or parents, killing him is accountable for righteousness.
 
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Pippin

Guest
#54
Well, i go into a week of depression if i swat a fly,so...
 
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#55
I will! Some guts are needed. The war has begun, by the way.