Abortion and birth controll right or wrong

[needmesomejesus]

I for one believe that abortion is just like killing(thou shall not kill.hence its commiting a sin.I think its wrong.life begins after fertilisation Now concerning the contraceptive issue,I think that its wrong in the case whereby a fertilised egg is terminated,removed or stopped to be implanted in the uterus ,reason being that life starts after fertilisation.Also i dont see it to be wrong in a space whereby fertilisation is prevented at first eg using condoms not loops or those other contrceptive methods.But I can only advice this(condoms) to a married couple in which one partner has sti's.If you dont want children abstain because with sex you know the consequences,if you are not ready for them then dont do it wheather married or not.

I feel like it's really ignorant to say for someone to abstain from sex if they don't want to have children. Sex isn't just for baby making it's for pleasure as well.

 

[jimmydiggs]

I believe abortion is 100% the woman's choice and none of anyone else's business.

I feel sorry for any guy who decides to be romantically involved with you at any level, because you have explicitly stated that he would be excluded from any decisions regarding whether or not to blender the unborn child he sired.

 

[jimmydiggs]

I feel like it's really ignorant to say for someone to abstain from sex if they don't want to have children.

I only know of one case in human history where there was a pregnant virgin. Also, IVF would not count as being the same as that one point in history. You still have human implantation.

Sex isn't just for baby making it's for pleasure as well.

Irrelevant to the point of the first statement.

 

[needmesomejesus]

I feel sorry for any guy who decides to be romantically involved with you at any level, because you have explicitly stated that he would be excluded from any decisions regarding whether or not to blender the unborn child he sired.

Well, I'm married and that's something we talked about before we were. So he knows where I stand and he agrees with me.

 

[needmesomejesus]

I only know of one case in human history where there was a pregnant virgin. Also, IVF would not count as being the same as that one point in history. You still have human implantation.



Irrelevant to the point of the first statement.

She said abstain from sex if you don't want children and I was just replying to that.

 

[jimmydiggs]

She said abstain from sex if you don't want children and I was just replying to that.

Sounds like the most assured way to avoid children.

Think about it...

 

[jimmydiggs]

Well, I'm married and that's something we talked about before we were. So he knows where I stand and he agrees with me.

That's unfortunate...

1 Cor. 11:3
But I want you to understand that Christ is the head of every man, and the man is the head of a woman, and God is the head of Christ.

 

[needmesomejesus]

That's unfortunate...

1 Cor. 11:3
But I want you to understand that Christ is the head of every man, and the man is the head of a woman, and God is the head of Christ.

Not really; I'm not controlling my husband. He still makes the final decisions in the house minus the things that 100% affect my body. Even then, he knew what he was getting into before we were married. It wasn't me saying this is how this is going to be; it was more a let's sit down and talk and have a mutual decision.

 

[needmesomejesus]

Sounds like the most assured way to avoid children.

Think about it...

I mean it's 100% foolproof but also unrealistic..... what married couple isn't going to have sex. It's not the main reason you get married, but it's one of the many reasons to get married because you are physically attracted to each other.

 

[FrankensteinGirls]

100% agree.... I think the doctors should do everything he can to save the mother. I would go as far as to say if a doctor (unless the mother requested it) didn't save the mother he wouldn't be fulfilling his hippocratic oath.

Agreed, it made me nervous to hear that they are a doctor but there are no exceptions to their rule, hopefully they would recommend someone else they could speak to if they themselves felt morally unable to deal with the matter.


Would I myself have an abortion if I was not raped and my life was not in danger? No I would not, but that is not my choice to make for other women and their spouses (in the cases where they were not raped) to make. My fiance and I have already talked the situation over and if we are both going to die to save me, if I am alive we can have more children (not that one baby replaces another, a lost child is a lost child regardless) if both I and our child are dead..why even? Two deaths when one can be saved is just absurd to me.

 

[Jacobsrr300]

I do not agree with abortion, of course there are those few cases of rape or incest, but I think the woman should consider adoption or other alternatives befor considering abortion. What's worse, Rape or Murder?

As for Birth-Control, I really have no firm opinion on it, its kind of up in the air for me.

 

[G4JC]

I probably posted this before... and people probably missed the point. So watch this again, and keep re-watching until the next election:
[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7y2KsU_dhwI[/video]

Other Nerd Facts:
https://www.barna.org/culture-artic...ical-parties-and-the-2012-election?q=abortion

Until next time...

 

[meggars]

How is birth control ok when its stopping having babies in the first place just the same as abortion

well....it's not the same. one is preventing the child from ever existing, period. The other is killing a baby that simply hasn't been born yet. It's a fairly distinctive difference

 

[Paulie079]

well....it's not the same. one is preventing the child from ever existing, period. The other is killing a baby that simply hasn't been born yet. It's a fairly distinctive difference

Not in every case. There are some forms of birth control that are abortive, meaning that they do away with an already-fertilized egg/already-conceived child.

 

[progressivenerdgirl]

I wonder where people ever got the notion that assault by one person upon a victim (rape) legitimized murder by another (the abortionist) on a separate victim. This is pretty bizarre 'reasoning'. Projecting the crime of a grown man on an infant is horrendous.

I am mixed on birth control. I am not anti-sex (I'm a Puritan, not a Transcendentalist) but at the same time I can't help but think its use encourages lust. That being said I don't think there is any sense in which birth control could be deemed illegal but it does seem like playing with temptation.

 

[SarahM777]

The question is how does the Lord look at it. Now if this is just a fight and this is how it is dealt with,it is possible that God make just take it a bit more seriously if it is done by choice? (It's also a verse that is so often mangled it's not funny)

Exodus 21

22 “If people are fighting and hit a pregnant woman and she gives birth prematurely[e] but there is no serious injury, the offender must be fined whatever the woman’s husband demands and the court allows. 23 But if there is serious injury, you are to take life for life, 24 eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, 25 burn for burn, wound for wound, bruise for bruise.

And remember this is only a fight and the child is injured because of the fight.

 

[rachelsedge]

I don't understand why killing a child is okay while the child is still in the mother's womb (abortion) but as soon as that child is out, it would be considered "murder". If a mother birthed a baby and then two days later killed it using the same techniques that are used during an abortion (which are horrendous, by the way), she would be plastered all over the news and people would be sickened by her actions.

But backtrack a couple of months to where the baby is still inside of her and suddenly it's not only okay, but legal and permissible to end that child's life?

So, clearly my answer would be that I believe abortion is wrong no matter what the circumstances surrounding it are. Justifying ending a baby's life due to how that baby was conceived doesn't make sense to me.

 

[progressivenerdgirl]

I don't understand why killing a child is okay while the child is still in the mother's womb (abortion) but as soon as that child is out, it would be considered "murder".

I have never heard of a justification for abortion that would not also justify infanticide. For example, "unborn babies aren't really conscious the way that fully grown humans are because their brains are not developed" or "unborn babies can not survive without outside support"; both of those are true but both are also true of newborn infants (and, really, any kid up to 3 or so when your memories start forming and you have some basic coordination).

What it comes down to is a culture that values convenience and lust more than children and life.

 

[ChristianGuy0]

I went from believing that abortion should be a choice, to believing that is wrong except for certain circumstances, to now thinking it's wrong under all circumstances, even when the mother's life is at risk..

It simply comes down to the fact that it is a human life.

So if the mother's life is at risk, the decision you would have to make is "Am I willing to sacrifice my child to save myself?" and I think if you do that it's immoral. It's not an easy choice obviously, and I pray noone ends up having to choose, but I don't think it's right.

At the end of the day it's a human life and we shouldn't have the right to kill it.

 

[ijustwanttheTruth]

i honestly don't know what to think.
i mean. i have always believed abortion to be wrong and i don't think i would do either to MY body in the name of health. but then again. i dunno how best to prevent pregnancy. i'd rather take a preemptive strike and have my hubby's tubes tied but some people think that is sin too. so... i really don't know what to say.

i will say this. God does not say not to kill. he says not to murder. but i do believe abortion to be murder in most cases. it's hard for me to decide? bc i have such mixed feelings about life and i'd almost rather not be here, and thus would rather no baby have to be here?

like. it's weird. if a baby has the horror of an abortion, it goes straight to be with jesus. no harm no foul. to be raised in heaven with the Father of all lights.
if it lives down here....it might not ever see heaven. being raised in darkness, it might grow up to choose sin.

i like the not having a choice thing better? but i don't like the suffering involved.
i feel like if it was an abortion that caused no suffering, maybe it would be ok. but sucking a babies body apart, destroying it's organs with a sharp metal tool, or salting it to death are never ok. ever ever ever. why? bc to cause suffering is against the character of God.

as for birth control. i personally, just don't believe it's healthy. and it's definitely not fool-proof as for pregnancy prevention. i just don't know. i'd rather be surgically altered, than have my baby surgically removed. and that's my two cents. take it for what it's worth.