Attitudes toward drinking

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ArtsieSteph

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I’m a teetotaler. No alchohol, no drugs, no smoking. Period. Why risk addiction and health problems?
 
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I see multiple comments and replies here claiming the Bible says to completely, 100%,to never drink alcohol as if not even a drop into your mouth. Or so they mean it that way.

You want proof that these people are lying or either misunderstanding scripture?
Here are a few verses that claim alcohol can be a good thing.and as you read these, think about these things a bit deeply with a godly perspective, understand that when they say wine -it is alcoholic, not nonalcoholic grape juice;

1 Timothy 5:23 ESV
(No longer drink only water, but use a little wine for the sake of your stomach and your frequent ailments.)

Ecclesiastes 9;7
Go, eat your bread with joy, and drink your wine with a merry heart, for God has already approved what you do.

Proverbs 31;6
Give strong drink to the one who is perishing, and wine to those in bitter distress;

John 2;1-11
On the third day there was a wedding at Cana in Galilee, and the mother of Jesus was there. Jesus also was invited to the wedding with his disciples. When the wine ran out, the mother of Jesus said to him, “They have no wine.” And Jesus said to her, “Woman, what does this have to do with me? My hour has not yet come.” His mother said to the servants, “Do whatever he tells you.”

There are other verses, but here you have scripture telling to drink together and be merry, to give a drink to someone who is perishing, you even have the Lord himself making it for a party. You constantly see verses about wine being alcoholic, so you know they don't mean grape juice.

But there are many verses saying how wine is bad, being drunk is bad and do on. But then you have these giving you multiple reasons why you should drink wine.

Do you think the Bible is contradicting itself? I find it that those who are the people that use wine or alcoholic beverages to get drunk to party, have orgies, lose self control when they have things to watch for and business to do, when they blow all their money on alcohol to be drunk all the time, when they become addicted to it and so forth, these are foolish and unwise ways to consume alcohol. The Lord created all things and made they become as they are, I believe the Lord intended for vineyards to make grapes and wine for us to consume, but for us to consume it wisely and not use it in foolish ways of for ungodly things of sin.

Anyone agree? That's good. Anyone disagree? I won't hate you, but I just recommend you really study all over the many books that being this up and see why God has a problem with people drinking wine. Surely you must know, it's not what things are that make us sin, it's why and how we use things and do things that makes it sin.

That's like saying don't have sex. Well it's not sex alone that's a sin, it's how and why you have sex. Is it how God intended us to have it? Before or after marriage? For your own self pleasure or for a spouse? With multiple people or just your spouse alone? All things in this world can be used for good or sin. I know by understanding that and reading scripture, tasting or having a little wine isn't a sin, but becoming an alcoholic and trying to get drunk for sex and waste your life on it is a sin.
 

Subhumanoidal

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#23
I see multiple comments and replies here claiming the Bible says to completely, 100%,to never drink alcohol as if not even a drop into your mouth. Or so they mean it that way.

You want proof that these people are lying or either misunderstanding scripture?
Here are a few verses that claim alcohol can be a good thing.and as you read these, think about these things a bit deeply with a godly perspective, understand that when they say wine -it is alcoholic, not nonalcoholic grape juice;

1 Timothy 5:23 ESV
(No longer drink only water, but use a little wine for the sake of your stomach and your frequent ailments.)

Ecclesiastes 9;7
Go, eat your bread with joy, and drink your wine with a merry heart, for God has already approved what you do.

Proverbs 31;6
Give strong drink to the one who is perishing, and wine to those in bitter distress;

John 2;1-11
On the third day there was a wedding at Cana in Galilee, and the mother of Jesus was there. Jesus also was invited to the wedding with his disciples. When the wine ran out, the mother of Jesus said to him, “They have no wine.” And Jesus said to her, “Woman, what does this have to do with me? My hour has not yet come.” His mother said to the servants, “Do whatever he tells you.”

There are other verses, but here you have scripture telling to drink together and be merry, to give a drink to someone who is perishing, you even have the Lord himself making it for a party. You constantly see verses about wine being alcoholic, so you know they don't mean grape juice.

But there are many verses saying how wine is bad, being drunk is bad and do on. But then you have these giving you multiple reasons why you should drink wine.

Do you think the Bible is contradicting itself? I find it that those who are the people that use wine or alcoholic beverages to get drunk to party, have orgies, lose self control when they have things to watch for and business to do, when they blow all their money on alcohol to be drunk all the time, when they become addicted to it and so forth, these are foolish and unwise ways to consume alcohol. The Lord created all things and made they become as they are, I believe the Lord intended for vineyards to make grapes and wine for us to consume, but for us to consume it wisely and not use it in foolish ways of for ungodly things of sin.

Anyone agree? That's good. Anyone disagree? I won't hate you, but I just recommend you really study all over the many books that being this up and see why God has a problem with people drinking wine. Surely you must know, it's not what things are that make us sin, it's why and how we use things and do things that makes it sin.

That's like saying don't have sex. Well it's not sex alone that's a sin, it's how and why you have sex. Is it how God intended us to have it? Before or after marriage? For your own self pleasure or for a spouse? With multiple people or just your spouse alone? All things in this world can be used for good or sin. I know by understanding that and reading scripture, tasting or having a little wine isn't a sin, but becoming an alcoholic and trying to get drunk for sex and waste your life on it is a sin.
You seem to connect sex and drunkenness together so oddly.
 

G00WZ

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I don't drink very often, and when i do its in such small amounts it doesn't do anything. I don't like the taste or feel of alcohol in my system. I don't judge when others do or like it though, people like what they like.
 

breno785au

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Occasionally, perhaps once a fortnight or so I like to enjoy an apple or pear cider or a glass of wine.
Every now and then I go to a bar with my workmates and have a beer with them on a Friday to connect with each other outside of work.
I do not promote drunkenness but to enjoy a drink for the sake of enjoyment as if you were just drinking water, soft drink of juice comes down to your conscience. I will not look down on anyone who chooses not to drink at all.
 

TheIndianGirl

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I think it is fine to drink but know your limits and do not get drunk. I drink in social settings, max two glasses of wine or mixed drinks, sometimes I like to drink a beer with a burger. However I do not drink that often. I do not keep any wine in the home as I do love good wine, and I do not want to get in the habit of drinking alone.
 
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Short answer: I've never drank. I don't ever intend to. That's basically it.

To go more in depth, I'm largely motivated by two things. One is my personality/mental health issues. I don't trust at all to ever get into something potentially addictive. Knowing myself, I can almost guarantee I would become addict and destroy myself with drinking, smoking, drugs, etc. So I'm never going to touch those with a 10 ft pole.

The other motivation I think is how my mother raised me. She never drank either, was strongly anti-drinking because of her disappointment with how my grandfather was when she grew up with his severe drinking obsession and behavior. He nearly had a heart attack and finally gave up drinking at the time I was born, so I never knew that side of him. Nonetheless, it may have still been a bit little too late: he passed away from pancreatic cancer later on (which studies have suggested a link between this and alcohol.)

(On a similar note: his son - my uncle, also had a serious problem with smoking. A year after my grandfather passed away, my uncle also passed from lung issues.)

In more recent months, my own father has taken up sneaking alcohol into the house and becoming blatantly drunk some nights. We never had alcohol in the house during my life until recently. I'm not really too fond of the kind of behavior he has when he's drunk, either, so I can understand my mother's disappointment with my grandfather.

Oh, now that I think about it, I guess there is a third motivation also: nothing about alcohol sounds appealing to me in and of itself. I don't like it from a sensory standpoint. When I've smelled alcohol it smells toxic, I can't imagine ever desiring to taste that or put it in my body. And I certainly don't want whatever drunkening effect it would have on my mindset. I have a natural aversion to certain strong sensations, that's just me.