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Bushido8000

Bushido8000

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dscherck said:
It's a heartfelt message, but completely and utterly wrong.


Love Jesus, Hate Religion? Fr. Robert Barron Fires Both Barrels | Why I Am Catholic
Why I Hate Religion, But Love Jesus — The Smackdown | Bad Catholic

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Idk. Had the video not been made by a leader from one of the most suppressive churches in history I might be persuaded more. It's hard for me to accept that kind of message from the church that has tortured/killed millions throughout history and whose rituals are laced with Paganism How the Catholic Mass and Catholic Churches Are Reflective of Pagan Traditions - Yahoo! Voices - voices.yahoo.com

I don't mean to offend and am sorry if I kind of came off harsh. I just have many differences with Catholicism.
 
dscherck

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Bushido8000 said:
Idk. Had the video not been made by a leader from one of the most suppressive churches in history I might be persuaded more. It's hard for me to accept that kind of message from the church that has tortured/killed millions throughout history and whose rituals are laced with Paganism How the Catholic Mass and Catholic Churches Are Reflective of Pagan Traditions - Yahoo! Voices - voices.yahoo.com

I don't mean to offend and am sorry if I kind of came off harsh. I just have many differences with Catholicism.
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It's okay. I used to think the exact same thing. I tried to save my Catholic friends from the errors of their ways, and would share Chick tracts with them. Thing is, turns out I was wrong. The Catholic Church's liturgy is drawn from a rich history of Jewish tradition. We have records from within the first century telling how the Eucharist (Communion) was celebrated weekly.

The article you posted had literally NO supporting references other than, "...look at a Greek temple, Celtic altar, or other pagan site." But I can find references to within the lifetime of an apostle describing the liturgical practices of the Early Church. St. Justin Martyr describes a religious ceremony that is very recognizable as being a prototype of the current Catholic/Orthodox celebration of the liturgy.

The following is from Justin Martyr's first Apology, an early apologetic work written with the intent of sharing the gospel with pagans. To put this in historical perspective, Justin Martyr passed away around 164 AD.

65. We lead him who believes and is joined to us, after we have thus baptized him, to those who are called the brethren, where they gather together to say prayers in common for ourselves, and for him who has been enlightened, and for all who are everywhere. . . . We greet each other with a kiss when the prayers are finished. Then bread and a cup of water and wine are brought to the president of the brethren, and he having received them sends up praise and glory to the Father of all through the name of his Son and the Holy Ghost, and makes a long thanksgiving that we have been made worthy of these things by him; when these prayers and thanksgivings are ended all the people present cry 'Amen'. . . . And when the president has given thanks (eucharistesantos, already a technical name for the Eucharist) and all the people have answered, those whom we call deacons give the bread and wine and water for which the 'thanksgiving' (Eucharist) has been made to be tasted by those who are present, and they carry them to those that are absent.

66. This food is called by us the Eucharist" (the well-known passage about the Real Presence follows, with the quotation of the words of Institution).

67. On the day which is called that of the Sun a reunion is made of all those who dwell in the cities and fields; and the commentaries of the Apostles and writings of the prophets are read as long as time allows. Then, when the reader has done, the president admonishes us in a speech and excites us to copy these glorious things. Then we all rise and say prayers and, as we have said above, when we have done praying bread is brought up and wine and water; and the president sends up prayers with thanksgiving for the men, and the people acclaim, saying 'Amen', and a share of the Eucharist is given to each and is sent to those absent by the deacons.
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There's considerably more as well. If you take the time to read up on what the Early Christians believed and taught, you'll find that it's almost exactly what the Catholic and Orthodox churches teach today.
 
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Actually this is a duplicate duplicate thread. There are at least two threads of this video up already.
 
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