Gay Christian?

[MarkMulder]

John 7:14 tells us to judge righteously. Im interested in the Scripture you have that doesn't say that.

Take your pick:

What Does the Bible Say About Judging Others?

 

[christiangamer]

I fail to see how Matthew, Luke, James, Romans, or any verse on your link contradicts this.

 

[MarkMulder]

I fail to see how Matthew, Luke, James, Romans, or any verse on your link contradicts this.

John 7:14 doesn't tell us to judge righteously at all btw.

[SUP]
" [/SUP]Not until halfway through the festival did Jesus go up to the temple courts and begin to teach."

[John 7:14]

 

[christiangamer]

7:24. My mistake, a whopping 10 verses down but we can pretend its not there I suppose. It says Do not judge by appearances, but judge with right judgment. Now would you care to validate your own point now or do you want to stick to correcting typos?

 

[MarkMulder]

"To judge" has different meanings, it can mean "to accuse, to label people etc" [the kind of "judging"Jesus warns against], but here it probably means something like "to make an assessment of the situation" Your quote is taken entirely out of context btw, by no means can this one quote nullify the value of the list of scriptural quotes I gave you, the clearest of them being:

"Do not judge, or you too will be judged."

[Matthew 7:1]

 

[christiangamer]

You and your "probables" don't change the Bible, my friend. Speaking of out of context you do realize every single verse on your link was without context...

 

[MarkMulder]

You and your "probables" don't change the Bible, my friend. Speaking of out of context you do realize every single verse on your link was without context...

Nor does your reading it out of context change it, far from it. Ofcourse those quotes are all out of context, that's the way that page was set up, can't help that. Should I have posted full chapters then? Anyway, feel free to read everything around those verses too.

 

[christiangamer]

I feel I could've easily said what you just said about the verse I shared from John. I understand that the dynamics of the original languages used causes some words to have more than one meaning, but what I do not understand is how "judge not lest you be judged" is the same as "don't judge". It sure looks more like "the consequence of judgement is judgement"

 

[christiangamer]

I understand man. Perhaps you're right. There may be insight helpful to both of us someone better educated on the matter can provide here.

 

[MarkMulder]

I feel I could've easily said what you just said about the verse I shared from John. I understand that the dynamics of the original languages used causes some words to have more than one meaning, but what I do not understand is how "judge not lest you be judged" is the same as "don't judge". It sure looks more like "the consequence of judgement is judgement"

Hey, I'm not the expert, plus I'm hindered by my faulty english. Maybe it's a good idea if you started a thread on this in the Bible Discussion Forum? I'm sure there are people there that can answer your queston better than I.

[Oops, deleted my post before your last post, because I thought there were too many grammatical errors in it, suz]

 

[christiangamer]

It's okay brother, I'm from Urban America. I'm used to grammatical error

 

[kingerik]

My definition is based on Scripture.

Mine as well. I am not talking about Eternal judgment. Christians judge each other by the fruit they bear is what I am talking about.

 

[homwardbound]

My definition is based on Scripture.

Is it or is it based on your interpretation of Scripture and I knoiw yuor interporetation is truth to you, is it truth to Father, and that will show as to how one reacts to others, whether gay or not

[h=3]Luke 6:32[/h]Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

[SUP]32 [/SUP]For if ye love them which love you, what thank have ye? for sinners also love those that love them.

 

[homwardbound]

Take your pick:

What Does the Bible Say About Judging Others?

To not and you then will not be judged by others, do we not all have the right to be here on earth, or just a few, even though not one had a say as to choose to be here on earth did we?
So God just love you and all equally, get it I pray

 

[homwardbound]

I feel I could've easily said what you just said about the verse I shared from John. I understand that the dynamics of the original languages used causes some words to have more than one meaning, but what I do not understand is how "judge not lest you be judged" is the same as "don't judge". It sure looks more like "the consequence of judgement is judgement"

Hey have you been judged yet, are you guilty of sin any sin ever? Has God by the cross of Son forgiven you? Have you received this forgiveness completed?
So today how shall one respond to this amazing grace given to us all through Son?
Judging others, condemning others, not show Mercy to others, when Mercy has been shown and given to those that Believe God as a whole not bits and pieces of a broken mirror.
God loved me so much and all the world that he went to the death, burial, resurrection and ascension to give us new life in Love God's type as he so well demonstrated to all while he walked here on earth in the flesh. He as I see it did no condemning to anyone, he only spoke truth as led, and the peoples own conscience did their own convicting

Therefore:
2 Corinthians 10:6 and having in a readiness to revenge all disobedience, when your obedience is fulfilled.

 

[homwardbound]

Mine as well. I am not talking about Eternal judgment. Christians judge each other by the fruit they bear is what I am talking about.

And yes, agreed, to be wise as a serpent but harmless as a dove. Love all, repeat Love all, and for me I could not until I saw the love of God first, then in response I could and can and do, thanks to God through Son
Just a little snack of food for thought Spiritually

 

[Zerozero]

Ok, I get you. Well, it's something that Christians do deal with and struggle with, so shouldn't they feel like they can come to a Christian community and know that they won't be judged, but loved?

I hope that they won't feel threatened by "outting" themselves. It's not our place to judge. But we are all called to love.

The problem with Christians today is that most people think that we should not judge others. However, the Bible calls us to judge people, but in the right manner according to Christ. We should judge with love and respect; not harshly (not too softly either) but righteously.

It is stated several times throughout the Bible that homosexual behavior is wrong.
Furthermore, homosexuals are not "made" homosexual by God. They are influenced by their surroundings. It is still a choice.
I'm not completely putting down gays or anything, but I do not feel that they are being ministered to in the correct way.

 

[seed_time_harvest]

No such thing as a Gay Christian....

Instead of saying that they are gay christians,they should say they are christians dealing with gay feelings.

 

[ThomistColin]

Instead of saying that they are gay christians,they should say they are christians dealing with gay feelings.

And when we say that, people think, "So your gay then." Its a Catch-22.

 

[seed_time_harvest]

And when we say that, people think, "So your gay then." Its a Catch-22.

that would be the way the world would think, but christians understand that the spirit is willing but the flesh is weak.

so i agree that there are no gay christians, but there are christians that are dealing with gay issues.