God doesn't judge.

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tryingtofindhim

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Huh? I wasnt agreeing with her about God not judging. I was saying most of the judging come from posters who are NOT God.

I believe God judges us.

I also believe posters on these forums judge too. And are rather vocal about it. Which is wrong.

You're right, but in reality everyone judges. :) We shouldn't but its a fact of life. :)
 
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You're right, but in reality everyone judges. :) We shouldn't but its a fact of life. :)
I agree its just that as Christians we should be trying not to judge. Especially when the judging is over how one christian views a topic versus another. If both people are christians and in the word how is one supposed to tell another that they are wrong?
 
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Sin is not normal. But it is something we do as it is in our nature. However that doesn't make it "normal". With that said Christians shouldn't intentionally sin.

Rom 6:1 What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound?
Rom 6:2 God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?
Rom 6:3 Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?

I would continue to read through Romans chapter 6.

However the Bible teaches that one day we will all have to face the judgment of God. But since our sins are covered in His blood we are forgiven.

God doesn't judge us now, for grace is abound. However one day He will judge.
God has given this young woman a glimpse of his grace and has established her heart in it. I would take heed before I would alter that grace in any way except for the purpose for which it was intended. God has impressed upon her mind and heart concerning his mercy and grace that was exhibited upon the cross when Jesus Christ put away all sin forever, not just the believer's sin but for the sin of the world (Jn 1:29, Rom 5:12, 1Jn 2:2). God sent his Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in his own flesh through death (Rom 8:3). As the spotless Lamb of God, who knew no sin, became sin and was judged (2Cor 5:21). All sin was judged upon the Son and the Father was satisfied with the death of his Son. Sin will never be judged again in this life or the next to come. God can not and will not judge sin twice.

The believer will only be subject to one judgment seat after they are resurrected in the rapture with Christ, and that is the (Bema) seat judgment in (Rom 14:10, 2Cor 5:10) for all born again believers that were purchased by the blood of Christ and forgiven and cleansed of all their sin the moment they got saved. How would God be able to impute his righteousness to us and make us complete in Him when we first believed upon Christ (Col 2:10), unless we were absolutely cleansed and forgiven of all sin? So, when we get at the Bema seat judgment that will not be a judgment of any sin of any believer. It will be a mercy seat judgment where all believer will be judged for their works according to mercy. You can't even get to this judgment seat unless you were cleansed by the one who put away all your sins on the cross. The loss of rewards that takes place at this judgment of mercy and Jesus Christ will be the judge and will not criticize a single believer. he will only try their works by fire and reward those whose works remain and those whose works do not remain they will suffer loss but are saved for eternity.
 
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lil-rush

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God has given this young woman a glimpse of his grace and has established her heart in it. I would take heed before I would alter that grace in any way except for the purpose for which it was intended. God has impressed upon her mind and heart concerning his mercy and grace that was exhibited upon the cross when Jesus Christ put away all sin forever, not just the believer's sin but for the sin of the world (Jn 1:29, Rom 5:12, 1Jn 2:2). God sent his Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in his own flesh through death (Rom 8:3). As the spotless Lamb of God, who knew no sin, became sin and was judged (2Cor 5:21). All sin was judged upon the Son and the Father was satisfied with the death of his Son. Sin will never be judged again in this life or the next to come. God can not and will not judge sin twice.
The impression given from the OP was not that she was given a glimpse of God's grace. The impression is that she has a false understanding of God formed to suit her personal wants and desires. She said that if God was judgmental she does not want to serve Him. That is not her having a "glimpse of God's grace." That is her not wanting to admit that God is a just God as well as a forgiving God. If she cannot accept that God judges, she might as well worship Buddha, or some other peace-loving god.

She has a detrimental understanding of God that needs to be corrected, or else she is going to have a hard life as a Christian. God does judge, and people do get punished for their sin. God doesn't always give grace and mercy. He sometimes gives justice. That is a fact, and if she thinks God will never judge a Christian for their sins, she is going to be in for a rude awakening when she does or someone she knows gets punished for a sin. What will she do when she realizes God is not the god she wants Him to be? Abandon God? Become angry with Him and stop serving Him? Pretend ignorance and hold onto her silly beliefs?

The believer will only be subject to one judgment seat after they are resurrected in the rapture with Christ, and that is the (Bema) seat judgment in (Rom 14:10, 2Cor 5:10) for all born again believers that were purchased by the blood of Christ and forgiven and cleansed of all their sin the moment they got saved. How would God be able to impute his righteousness to us and make us complete in Him when we first believed upon Christ (Col 2:10), unless we were absolutely cleansed and forgiven of all sin? So, when we get at the Bema seat judgment that will not be a judgment of any sin of any believer. It will be a mercy seat judgment where all believer will be judged for their works according to mercy. You can't even get to this judgment seat unless you were cleansed by the one who put away all your sins on the cross. The loss of rewards that takes place at this judgment of mercy and Jesus Christ will be the judge and will not criticize a single believer. he will only try their works by fire and reward those whose works remain and those whose works do not remain they will suffer loss but are saved for eternity.
God will judge us on earth. It is called consequences. If I sleep with every man I come across, God isn't going to show me grace and mercy by allowing me to stay STD free. His judgment would be allowing me to get AIDS or something of the sort. If I robbed a bank, God would not show me grace by allowing me to get out without trouble. His punishment would be allowing me to get caught and tried in court.

The wages of sin are death(romans 6:23). Our punishment for sinning is becoming dead to the Holy Spirit and alive to our flesh. As you said, God cannot abide with sin. Holy Spirit is God, and so the Holy Spirit cannot abide with our sin.

I think the issue here is that people do not understand what judgment is. Judgment is simply looking at a person, and saying when they have done something wrong. Once it has been ascertained that they have done something wrong, then it is decided if the person will be punished or granted mercy. It still takes judgment to grant mercy, though. You can't grant a person mercy unless you accept the person has sinned. You can't say a person has sinned unless you have judged their actions.