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K
:/ I see, sorry 'bout that.
It isn't smart at all for someone who has the knowledge of healing to go and try to clean out a hospital.
With the knowledge I have of the subject, I could minister and see some results, yes, but there are people in the world who believe that it's God's will for them to be sick, that He's working something in them, and that if I say it's God's will for them to be 100% healthy, or even healthy at all, I'm of the devil. The unbelief of the people in the hospital could have an effect on the results that could be seen, and nothing would get done.
On the other hand, if the majority of the people wouldn't reject it, I would see good results, but whether a person gets healed or not doesn't depend on me, so there's no guarantee they would receive at the moment, or at all. I would like to thank God for doctors, though. Without them, a lot of people would be dead D:
And Paul's thorn in the flesh was not sickness. It was some sort of demonic thing revolving around persecution because of the abundance of Paul's revelation. I haven't got time to explain that, but I will tomorrow. I'm tired, and I need to go to bed.
It isn't smart at all for someone who has the knowledge of healing to go and try to clean out a hospital.
With the knowledge I have of the subject, I could minister and see some results, yes, but there are people in the world who believe that it's God's will for them to be sick, that He's working something in them, and that if I say it's God's will for them to be 100% healthy, or even healthy at all, I'm of the devil. The unbelief of the people in the hospital could have an effect on the results that could be seen, and nothing would get done.
On the other hand, if the majority of the people wouldn't reject it, I would see good results, but whether a person gets healed or not doesn't depend on me, so there's no guarantee they would receive at the moment, or at all. I would like to thank God for doctors, though. Without them, a lot of people would be dead D:
And Paul's thorn in the flesh was not sickness. It was some sort of demonic thing revolving around persecution because of the abundance of Paul's revelation. I haven't got time to explain that, but I will tomorrow. I'm tired, and I need to go to bed.
H
Matthew 8:16-17 KJV
When the even was come, they brought unto him many that were possessed with devils: and he cast out the spirits with his word, and healed all that were sick: That it might be fulfilled which was spoken by Esaias the prophet, saying, Himself took our infirmities, and bare our sicknesses.
When the even was come, they brought unto him many that were possessed with devils: and he cast out the spirits with his word, and healed all that were sick: That it might be fulfilled which was spoken by Esaias the prophet, saying, Himself took our infirmities, and bare our sicknesses.
T
Tell me why Epaphroditus was sick to the point of death? I tell you why you don't understand
this sickness philosophy. You seek your will, rather than His will, and you do this because you
do not accept the fact that His ways and thoughts are higher than yours. You lack life
experiences that show God works for His will to bring about His work. I've seen it and went
through it myself. The body you inhabit is corruptible. It will wear out. It will get infections.
It will return to dust. It will not enter the kingdom of God, because it is corrupt.
That is why you will be given a new body, that will NOT get sick, tired or wear out.
There are false beliefs of what God wants us to have in this life:
1. Be wealthy
2. Be healthy
3. Live on easy street
4. Be loved by the world
If that were the Christian life, the unbeliever would accept God based on the lust of the flesh.
Jesus said to take up your cross (your electric chair, your hangman's noose, your lethal injection)
and follow Him. The Christian will go through trials for growth, for wisdom, for a testimony
to the unsaved world. This is how you shine as a light to the world. You can not
relate to a sick person if you have never been sick yourself. You can not relate to a person
having an operation, if you have never had one. You can never relate to a couple having marriage
problems if you never been through them yourself. But you go through these things, so you
can reach out to the unsaved. The things you go through, don't affect you only, but
everyone involved. It is like a ripple in a pond. Why is this person with cancer like me have joy?
Why can they still smile? Why aren't they fearing death? Being sick may have nothing to do with
you, where sin and faith is concerned, but for someone else to see you and the Lord in you.
The whole book of Job is a prime example of hardships for God's purposes:
Job 1:8 And the LORD said unto Satan, Hast thou considered my servant Job, that there is none like him in the earth, a perfect and an upright man, one that feareth God, and escheweth evil?
Had Job's children not died, had he not lost his wealth, and had he not gotten sick, there
would never been the book of Job. Its there for us to learn from, because it will happen.
this sickness philosophy. You seek your will, rather than His will, and you do this because you
do not accept the fact that His ways and thoughts are higher than yours. You lack life
experiences that show God works for His will to bring about His work. I've seen it and went
through it myself. The body you inhabit is corruptible. It will wear out. It will get infections.
It will return to dust. It will not enter the kingdom of God, because it is corrupt.
That is why you will be given a new body, that will NOT get sick, tired or wear out.
There are false beliefs of what God wants us to have in this life:
1. Be wealthy
2. Be healthy
3. Live on easy street
4. Be loved by the world
If that were the Christian life, the unbeliever would accept God based on the lust of the flesh.
Jesus said to take up your cross (your electric chair, your hangman's noose, your lethal injection)
and follow Him. The Christian will go through trials for growth, for wisdom, for a testimony
to the unsaved world. This is how you shine as a light to the world. You can not
relate to a sick person if you have never been sick yourself. You can not relate to a person
having an operation, if you have never had one. You can never relate to a couple having marriage
problems if you never been through them yourself. But you go through these things, so you
can reach out to the unsaved. The things you go through, don't affect you only, but
everyone involved. It is like a ripple in a pond. Why is this person with cancer like me have joy?
Why can they still smile? Why aren't they fearing death? Being sick may have nothing to do with
you, where sin and faith is concerned, but for someone else to see you and the Lord in you.
The whole book of Job is a prime example of hardships for God's purposes:
Job 1:8 And the LORD said unto Satan, Hast thou considered my servant Job, that there is none like him in the earth, a perfect and an upright man, one that feareth God, and escheweth evil?
Had Job's children not died, had he not lost his wealth, and had he not gotten sick, there
would never been the book of Job. Its there for us to learn from, because it will happen.
H
Mark 16:17-20 ESV
And these signs will accompany those who believe: in my name they will cast out demons; they will speak in new tongues; they will pick up serpents with their hands; and if they drink any deadly poison, it will not hurt them; they will lay their hands on the sick, and they will recover." So then the Lord Jesus, after he had spoken to them, was taken up into heaven and sat down at the right hand of God. And they went out and preached everywhere, while the Lord worked with them and confirmed the message by accompanying signs.]]
And these signs will accompany those who believe: in my name they will cast out demons; they will speak in new tongues; they will pick up serpents with their hands; and if they drink any deadly poison, it will not hurt them; they will lay their hands on the sick, and they will recover." So then the Lord Jesus, after he had spoken to them, was taken up into heaven and sat down at the right hand of God. And they went out and preached everywhere, while the Lord worked with them and confirmed the message by accompanying signs.]]
K
I feel the need to say I mean no disrespect.
However, this 'sickness philosophy' is a vain philosophy in which Satan spoils us.
Sickness is a curse, and it will only come if we yield to it.
Health is in Jesus' atonement. Isaiah 53:5 says by His stripes we were healed. Matthew 8:16-17 go with this verse, stating that Jesus bore our sicknesses.
I understand that it's easiest to see who we follow when we're in trials, and that trials are inevitable, but let me ask you this:
What brings God more glory - I've had cancer all my life but I'm happy because of God, or I've been healthy my whole life because of God? What's wrong with God wanting us to be healthy? Do you think the devil wants you to be healthy?
I don't expect to live an easy life. If Jesus, the Son of God didn't have an easy life whereas He had it all, even here on earth, I most certainly do not expect to live easier than Jesus did. But you never saw Jesus with sickness, and you never saw Him turn a person down or even put sickness on someone.
I feel the need to say that while one can be healthy their whole life and live without sickness, I'm not saying they may not get symptoms of sickness hit 'em which may turn into sickness if the person doesn't do something about it.
I need to stop here, Trax (save for the thing about the thorn below). I'm done. Sorry for the trouble.
[In 2nd Corinthians 12, Paul talks about his thorn in the flesh which was a messenger of Satan. He says it right after he mentions his thorn.]
However, this 'sickness philosophy' is a vain philosophy in which Satan spoils us.
Sickness is a curse, and it will only come if we yield to it.
Health is in Jesus' atonement. Isaiah 53:5 says by His stripes we were healed. Matthew 8:16-17 go with this verse, stating that Jesus bore our sicknesses.
I understand that it's easiest to see who we follow when we're in trials, and that trials are inevitable, but let me ask you this:
What brings God more glory - I've had cancer all my life but I'm happy because of God, or I've been healthy my whole life because of God? What's wrong with God wanting us to be healthy? Do you think the devil wants you to be healthy?
I don't expect to live an easy life. If Jesus, the Son of God didn't have an easy life whereas He had it all, even here on earth, I most certainly do not expect to live easier than Jesus did. But you never saw Jesus with sickness, and you never saw Him turn a person down or even put sickness on someone.
I feel the need to say that while one can be healthy their whole life and live without sickness, I'm not saying they may not get symptoms of sickness hit 'em which may turn into sickness if the person doesn't do something about it.
I need to stop here, Trax (save for the thing about the thorn below). I'm done. Sorry for the trouble.
[In 2nd Corinthians 12, Paul talks about his thorn in the flesh which was a messenger of Satan. He says it right after he mentions his thorn.]
H
I agree! & we're not suppose to talk of the natural anyway. We don't live by how we feel, or what we see. My pastor tore his arm muscle surfing the other day, the doc said he'd never use it again... This morning, when we were confirming the word with signs, he took his sling off, and commanded his arm to be healed. It was amazing! Sometimes all it takes is that step of faith!! We need to have faith , like they did in the book of Acts.
Hislastwalk, you are just trying to provoke proven by the fact that when I did not reply to you fast enough for your liking you decided to pm me, I think you are simply trying to be antagonising.
As I said in the PM, God gives us tool and expects us to use them, I hate it when people think God will do everything for them.
Ironically our morning message yesterday was on that and as our pastor said.....If God did everything for you if you only prayed why are all the top athletes not Christian? (our pastor used to be a pro-tennis player) The World number 1 tennis player is not a Christian, he is world number one because, yes, he has talent but also because he works with what he was given, he works hard every day.
As I said in the PM, God gives us tool and expects us to use them, I hate it when people think God will do everything for them.
Ironically our morning message yesterday was on that and as our pastor said.....If God did everything for you if you only prayed why are all the top athletes not Christian? (our pastor used to be a pro-tennis player) The World number 1 tennis player is not a Christian, he is world number one because, yes, he has talent but also because he works with what he was given, he works hard every day.