I want to die

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blue_ladybug

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You may have been proactive in your life, but what are you doing right now to change your attitude on how you view life and what it should be? Every post you've made so far is full of sadness and despair. We aren't supposed to despair, we are supposed to rejoice at the wonderful new life we will have with God some day. Like it or not, we all have to finish this race called life. :) Whether it treats us fairly or not. Life is tough, princess. ALOT tougher than anyone here has been on you. But even in tough times, you can learn lessons from them. Read any testimony here, and you'll see what I say is true.
 

Angela_grace

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History princess, how do you know that what is being said isn't being said out of love? You say the tone makes all the difference. And generally speaking yes, it does. But the thing that's being "said" is written. Thus, you can not know in what tone they write what they write. I believe most everyone here is writing what they write out of love. Why else would they continue to keep writing? I have a verse for you: And let us consider how we may spur one another on toward love and good deeds Hebrews 10:24. When we are spurred it doesn't feel good. Though what is written may not feel good it is done out of brotherly love.
 
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I'm sorry for everything you've experienced. Truly, truly I am. I don't think I could go through all that myself. But I am his just as much as you are. I may have unkind thoughts toward him every now and then, but he's always kind toward me.
So, when are you going to get around to depending on him?
 
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Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It is not rude, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.

I wrote about this in my prayer journal one time, and Jesus described it to me as a kind and compassionate doctor giving someone a bad diagnosis, and then offering treatment. Jesus was never harsh with those who followed him, he was always harsh with those who opposed him.
So, when are you going to get around to depending on him?
 
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I'm not asking to receive a sugar-coated version of reality. And I have been proactive in my life. I really am sorry for every awful thing you've experienced in your life. I'm sure it must have been very painful for you. But that doesn't mean you can hand out truth in a non-loving way. I'm not going to try to defend myself anymore. I leave you with this.

2 Timothy 2:23-26

Don’t have anything to do with foolish and stupid arguments, because you know they produce quarrels. And the Lord’s servant must not be quarrelsome but must be kind to everyone, able to teach, not resentful. Opponents must be gently instructed, in the hope that God will grant them repentance leading them to a knowledge of the truth, and that they will come to their senses and escape from the trap of the devil, who has taken them captive to do his will.
You might want to go back over what you've been saying on this thread. See how you're doing with the "truth in a non-loving way" thing. And check out how you're doing in the not quarreling thing.
 

jsr1221

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Reading a lot of these posts, I guess my biggest issue with Christians is the fact they say "Jesus heals", " Jesus is enough", and etc. etc. etc. That is true. By saying such things, though, that implies we can do whatever we want. So I can be 600 pounds, eat junk food 24/7 and not work out, and just "have faith in Jesus" in order to lose weight. That's it. I don't have to do get my butt off the couch to lose the weight. I don't have to eat more salads and less desserts and fried foods. Feeling lonely? Wanting companionship? Nah. Forget that. I can just go to a sports bar and watch a game by myself, because Jesus is right there next to me to watch and to talk about the game and life. Or I could just have a candlelit dinner at a restaurant by the boardwalk by myself, because Jesus is right across the table eating with me. Or I could curl up in a blanket and put my arm around a pillow, because Jesus has His head against the pillow. I have depression, or anxiety, or a porn or food disorder? Go get help and make changes like throwing out junk food or getting rid of my computer? That's nonsense. I can just trust Jesus.... This type of thinking I have seen over and over again from folks on here and in person. And quite frankly, it's gotten really irritating how people want to Bible thump, expecting that just fixes all problems.
 
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blue_ladybug

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God does not help those who don't help themselves, unless they help themselves by reaching out to Him.. Otherwise, they will stay stuck in their crappy circumstances..
 

jsr1221

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God does not help those who don't help themselves, unless they help themselves by reaching out to Him.. Otherwise, they will stay stuck in their crappy circumstances..
There a lot of fit and healthy atheists.. Just saying. And yes. I know about the verse talking about the fool losing his soul to profit on Earth. But it's no secret salads and constant working out equals good health, and sitting on the butt all day eating fried chicken and chips equals bad health. It's no secret you go to the hospital if experiencing chest pains. It's no secret you clean your pantry or get rid of your home wifi if you're a food or porn addict. It's no secret you're supposed to live within your means financially. God gave us common sense to take on everyday life. The Bible may be all truth, but not all truth is in the Bible.
 
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Reading a lot of these posts, I guess my biggest issue with Christians is the fact they say "Jesus heals", " Jesus is enough", and etc. etc. etc. That is true. By saying such things, though, that implies we can do whatever we want. So I can be 600 pounds, eat junk food 24/7 and not work out, and just "have faith in Jesus" in order to lose weight. That's it. I don't have to do get my butt off the couch to lose the weight. I don't have to eat more salads and less desserts and fried foods. Feeling lonely? Wanting companionship? Nah. Forget that. I can just go to a sports bar and watch a game by myself, because Jesus is right there next to me to watch and to talk about the game and life. Or I could just have a candlelit dinner at a restaurant by the boardwalk by myself, because Jesus is right across the table eating with me. Or I could curl up in a blanket and put my arm around a pillow, because Jesus has His head against the pillow. I have depression, or anxiety, or a porn or food disorder? Go get help and make changes like throwing out junk food or getting rid of my computer? That's nonsense. I can just trust Jesus.... This type of thinking I have seen over and over again from folks on here and in person. And quite frankly, it's gotten really irritating how people want to Bible thump, expecting that just fixes all problems.
Step One -- depend on God.

Step Two comes after Step One.

Worry about overeaters when an overeater tells you about himself/herself. If all you're going to do is complain about everyone else, how is that helpful to HP?

If you want to complain about everyone else, there is the Start a Post option. I'd be happy to join in. (I actually agree with you, but this thread isn't about that.)
 

jsr1221

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Step One -- depend on God.

Step Two comes after Step One.

Worry about overeaters when an overeater tells you about himself/herself. If all you're going to do is complain about everyone else, how is that helpful to HP?

If you want to complain about everyone else, there is the Start a Post option. I'd be happy to join in. (I actually agree with you, but this thread isn't about that.)
I see where HistoryPrincess is coming from which is why I posted what I posted. And it's bothered me how people are just throwing Scripture verses at her when there's more to it than just that. Which is why I've posted what I've posted. Earlier I asked people to maybe see it from her perspective. Oddly enough (since we want to use Scripture) there are verses about walking in another person's shoes.
 
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Huglife

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This is still going on... No offenes but still
 

Silverwings

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I'm very introverted and stuff like that just reminds me of the 24/7 chaos I see on the news, which is why I barely watch it anymore. And call me selfish, but I'd rather have someone who makes me feel alive with happiness rather than dead with sadness.
That surely is the depression talking?
 
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Too long to explain why. I just want to. I can only sum it up in three words right now. Empty, lonely, hopeless.:(
So do I, but we have to fight on. We just can't give up, it's not that easy to commit suicide, I have tried loads of times in the past... I almost did die once... but unless the time is right for you to go, then you will just hurt yourslef and put yourself in an even worse situation than you are now. You cannot choose to switch off life like you turn off the tv. Unless it's time to die, then you'll just end up hurting yourself more by doing whatever you will do.

Do NOT give up, think of all the wonderful things in life. How were you as a child? were you happy? do you have any happy memories at all? you're life can change in a second, imagene how life would be if some things were different for you, and they CAN change, but you have to make them and make those changes. SO you can be happy and live the life you have always wanted. It's not easy, and some people get everything handed on a plate, but we have to fight, fight the world, fight life itself and show that you WON'T give up and you WILL be successful and happy.

I feel like you do often, but I am currently changing my life, and soon I can be happy, it's time you start the path to success, and happiness too
 
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If you are always told you are welcome, loved and understood, where does the fear of being abandoned come from?

sounds like you are getting the idea from somewhere, but if your experience is completely the opposite, does it make sense to have that fear?

You don't have to want to die, there's no reason for that