Is Domestic Discipline okay with God?

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Ell

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I know this may be a touchy subject for some, but I really need some opinions from Christians of whether domestic discipline is something God approves of or not. Yes, it does say “Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord.”(Ephesians 5:22, KJV) But it also says, “Husbands love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;”(Ephesians 5:24, KJV)



As I continue reading through this section of Ephesians chapter 5, I will for a moment think it is saying that a husband is allowed to punish his wife if needed. But then I go a few more verses and it says, “So ought men to love their wives as their own bodies.”(Ephesians 5:28, KJV) I don’t know any men that go around punishing themselves when they do something wrong. I also think about the way Jesus treated everyone, no matter who they were; as well as if he punished any of his followers. I’m pretty sure the answer to that is no. From what I’ve read and gone over, I can’t find a reason why this would be something God would want a husband to do to his wife.


I’m just trying to figure out if this is right or wrong in God’s eyes. I know sometimes as Christians we might think something we are doing is okay, but then some time later we find out that it probably wasn’t the best thing because of all the other problems it created along the way. Problems at the time we didn’t see arising.
Please let me know what you think.


-Ell
 
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MrsSunflower

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Exactly where did you find about that husbands can punish their wives in the bible? I have never read nor heard about that being written in the bible at all, to me it sounds like it comes from the Quran; There you are allowed to punish your wife. A good Christian man that also loves his wife wouldn't punish her in any way, in the old testament it looks more as the husbands have respect and love for their wives, in the new testament they do as well.
 
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Jacob12

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No, the only discipline the bible speaks of in that sense is toward our children.
 
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Siberian_Khatru

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Ell! Get back in the house and make my pancakes! *shakes fist violently*.

I agree with MrsSunflower and Jacob12; I don't believe the Bible advocates domestic violence, as it were.
 
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wwjd_kilden

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read ONE VERSE AHEAD of wives submit to your husbands please

And further, submit to one another out of reverence for Christ.
 
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leelee

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what you are describing is not called domestic discipline, its called domestic abuse. and despite the line about sparing the rod i also personally believe parent who hit their children are just unable to control them without violence. I also think that violence always breeds violence and is never ever the right answer. I do not think that Jesus advocated hitting children either. there is a verse, i forget exactly where. he says, essentially, my will is a strong and a rod of iron. i think the spare the rod spoil the child means be strict. don't bend the rules I don't think it means hit. I don't think Jesus wants us to be hitting anybody! So bringing it back to the point of the OP. nope, never.
 
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wwjd_kilden

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Amen leelee
 
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Kooper

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Siberian_Khatru said:
Ell! Get back in the house and make my pancakes! *shakes fist violently*.
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I laughed at that.

And yeah... I've tried looking for Thou shalt strike thy wife. (if need be)

I couldn't find it. :rolleyes:
 
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MrsSunflower

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You sound very violent, kooper. ;) Though I don't beleive you are that like you try to seem. Lol.
 
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Ell

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I cannot express to all of you how much your responses are answering so many of my other questions. First, let me start by saying I just wasn’t sure if domestic discipline was okay with God and I guess I just needed some other Christian views on the subject. Because of your responses, my gut feeling of domestic discipline being wrong has been validated. Hopefully none of you thought I was too crazy for posting this sort of a question. Again, thank you so much for responses.



-Ell
 
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MrsSunflower

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^ It is allowed to ask. ;) :)
 
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Siberian_Khatru

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Good to hear, Ell! And God bless!

Now, it puts the lotion on it's skin, or else it gets the hose again. . .(is that domestic discipline?)
 
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jimmydiggs

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Siberian_Khatru said:
Good to hear, Ell! And God bless!

Now, it puts the lotion on it's skin, or else it gets the hose again. . .(is that domestic discipline?)
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It will be if my shirt isn't ironed.;)
 
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Ell

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Siberian_Khatru said:
Good to hear, Ell! And God bless!

Now, it puts the lotion on it's skin, or else it gets the hose again. . .(is that domestic discipline?)
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Here's a definition I found that explains christian domestic discipline:

"Domestic Discipline is a lifestyle choice in which the husband is the head of the household and the wife submits to his authority and discipline. This discipline usually includes spanking as well as other consequences for certain behaviors determined by the couple. Though every couple practices DD in slightly different ways, the common threads include leadership based on trust and the acceptance of consequences by the submissive partner." (Christian Domestic Discipline FAQ)



As you read on at this website, it uses 1 Corinthians 7:33-34 as a defense for domestic discipline. Which reads:


"33But he that is married careth for the things that are of the world, how he may please his wife.
34There is difference also between a wife and a virgin. The unmarried woman careth for the things of the Lord, that she may be holy both in body and in spirit: but she that is married careth for the things of the world, how she may please her husband."(KJV)


Then it goes on to say that as long as domestic discipline is helping to make the couples relationship work this way, and it doesn't go against any teachings, then it is okay. Hopefully this explains how I came about asking this kind of a question in the first place.


The way I feel about it . . . why couldn't you sit down and talk about it? And whatever happened to self-control? Isn't seeing how unhappy you've made your significant other enough punishment? It's not like you feel good when you see them upset. So why is there a need to go any further? Isn't feeling guilty kind of the punishment or discipline you receive for making them feel that way?
 
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Siberian_Khatru

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Eh. . .at least jimmydiggs got it.
 
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Nanabell

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Crazy Maybe that's why we have so much domestic violence in our socity:((( Jesus said walk in His Spirit and you will not fulfill the lust of the flesh:) He's our teacher and when we mess up He chooses LOVE and forgives us:))) He don't stone us:))) Husbands LOVE your wives as CHRIST LOVES the CHURCH, He does discipline His own. But not in a humiliating fashion:( Usually I find He will give me my way and let me sit in it for alittle bit till I repent. But His GOODNESS leads us all to repentance:)))) sorry I'm so long with the text but I just came out of a very man controlling everything org. And now I know what the Pastor meant when he said if some of you woman were my wife you would get a spanking. I thought he was kidding, though still sounds strange. My husband still very verbally abusive and when he gets really angry he threatens physical:(( But I trust God is going to see me through this or out of it soon:)) Stay Blessed
 
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kayem77

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Ell said:
Here's a definition I found that explains christian domestic discipline:

"Domestic Discipline is a lifestyle choice in which the husband is the head of the household and the wife submits to his authority and discipline. This discipline usually includes spanking as well as other consequences for certain behaviors determined by the couple. Though every couple practices DD in slightly different ways, the common threads include leadership based on trust and the acceptance of consequences by the submissive partner." (Christian Domestic Discipline FAQ)



As you read on at this website, it uses 1 Corinthians 7:33-34 as a defense for domestic discipline. Which reads:


"33But he that is married careth for the things that are of the world, how he may please his wife.
34There is difference also between a wife and a virgin. The unmarried woman careth for the things of the Lord, that she may be holy both in body and in spirit: but she that is married careth for the things of the world, how she may please her husband."(KJV)


Then it goes on to say that as long as domestic discipline is helping to make the couples relationship work this way, and it doesn't go against any teachings, then it is okay. Hopefully this explains how I came about asking this kind of a question in the first place.


The way I feel about it . . . why couldn't you sit down and talk about it? And whatever happened to self-control? Isn't seeing how unhappy you've made your significant other enough punishment? It's not like you feel good when you see them upset. So why is there a need to go any further? Isn't feeling guilty kind of the punishment or discipline you receive for making them feel that way?
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Just WOW, its amazing how man can pick verses of the Bible without considering the context to justify his own faults. :( I don't see how that is loving, that' so messed up.
 
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Siberian_Khatru

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Here ya go, Aristocat:
 
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