Masturbation - fine, porn - bad

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Khorib2

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Colt721 said:
Hmm, but Jesus said that if we looked at a woman with lust in our hearts then it is exactly the same as committing adultery. The act itself is unnecessary it is what is in our hearts. When you masturbate while thinking of someone then you are still committing adultery.
On the other hand if you are thinking of your spouse while doing this (if you happen to be married) then I suppose that would be ok right?
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Well, luckily I'm not married and therefore, by Jesus' words, I could look at women with lust without issue (including masturbate). The bible specifically uses the word "adultery", which is reserved exclusively for married folk. This, of course, would assume as well that the person you are fantasizing about is not married either, as that could step onto the ground of adultery
 
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godovermoney

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#102
masturbation will make you go blind kids, and it will give you hairy palms:eek:
 
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godovermoney

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well then by all means...i wouldnt want them because then hair would get in my food!:rolleyes:
 
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Lad

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The way I see it is this:

Is masturbation holy (can it be consecrated to the Lord): No.
Is masturbation something that gives both you and your spouse pleasure and fulfillment in each others bodies: No.
Is masturbation glorifying to Yehovehs Name: No.

Therefore it is not what christians should do.
 
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xJoe

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#107
#107
is basketball holy? No
Is it something that can give both you and your spouse pleasure and fulfillment in your bodies? Not all wifes like basketball
is basketball glorifying God? No
so we shouldn't do it.
Im not saying I support masturbation but that is a terrible argument. The thing is with masurbation is you need to understand that when a male doesn't ejactulate he becomes full of testosterone and it can alter his mind. He then becomes flooded with sexual thought and such or atleast it becomes harder to deal with.
a logical reason to masturbate is to release those feelings so it doesn't alter your mind. Do you need to think dirty to masturbate? Actually you don't.
the negatives are it's very addicting and it induces loneliness. Since it was mean't for a spouse and a husband it can have a negative effect if it's just with yourself. It does make you more lonely.
Can I say it is right or wrong? I cannot. I don't believe the Bible says anything about it specifically so whether or not you want to use it with the right intentions is up to you. Theres pros and cons to it (only for someone unmarried)
the choice is up to the individual and how they use it. Not up to us and how we think of it.
 
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Maddog

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#108
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xJoe said:
iThe thing is with masurbation is you need to understand that when a male doesn't ejactulate he becomes full of testosterone and it can alter his mind. He then becomes flooded with sexual thought and such or atleast it becomes harder to deal with.
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Actually, sexual desire can (and will) lessen if sexual stimulation is avoided.

Source: Own experience.
 
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jimmydiggs

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#109
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Maddog said:
Actually, sexual desire can (and will) lessen if sexual stimulation is avoided.

Source: Own experience.
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I second this motion. Same source.
 
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godovermoney

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look its just not allright, i joke about it to avoid it. alot of these habitual sins i just have to laugh at to avoid. has almost every done it? probably. is it dangerous? yes it will send you on a downward spiral
 
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The_boy

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As I have only been a Christian for a few years and haven't exactly studied thoroughly as some I don't expect this to be taken to seriously. And correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't/couldn't this fall under the scripture where Paul says something to the effect of "all things are permissible, but not all things are beneficial"? I also know that our salvation does not give us the right to sin as we please but as so many people find it rather unclear could it be considered something of that nature?
 
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Tobby17

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TheJesusFreak said:
Fine I am going to come out and say it. Even though it will change everyone's veiw of me.

I dont do it because i like it or anything I do it because I have had a bad dream (wet dream) before and it feels so ugly and discusting. I also do it because everyone our age is figuring out who they are and I dont want to go down to wrong paths because my untamed hormones are raging (ie. I know it is a sin to become gay so I despise it with all of my heart and I dont want to be one of those sleezy skirt chasers). For me it also helps keeps the hormones out of my mind and actually keeps me calm and not a hot hormonal mess all of the time. You may say it is impossible to not think lustful thoughts while doing it BUT I push my evil and lustful thoughts back (even though if they ever pop out they are about a future wife) and I think over and over in my head "Lord purify me" over and over.

I dont do it to feel good or anything otherwise I wouldnt be doing it. I do it because I feel it DOES help me to stay pure and not become a hot hormonal mess.
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Well are u saying that if you're commit a sin to avoid something else, it changes the fact that the sin is a sin?

So if i lie to save somebody's life, does it change the fact that lying is a sin?. And God will understand because i'm using lying to avoid something bad?

Masturbation is bad, simple!. Irrespective of the motive or what you use it as a medium to prevent!
 
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Lad

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#113
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xJoe said:
is basketball holy? No
Is it something that can give both you and your spouse pleasure and fulfillment in your bodies? Not all wifes like basketball
is basketball glorifying God? No
so we shouldn't do it.
Im not saying I support masturbation but that is a terrible argument. The thing is with masurbation is you need to understand that when a male doesn't ejactulate he becomes full of testosterone and it can alter his mind. He then becomes flooded with sexual thought and such or atleast it becomes harder to deal with.
a logical reason to masturbate is to release those feelings so it doesn't alter your mind. Do you need to think dirty to masturbate? Actually you don't.
the negatives are it's very addicting and it induces loneliness. Since it was mean't for a spouse and a husband it can have a negative effect if it's just with yourself. It does make you more lonely.
Can I say it is right or wrong? I cannot. I don't believe the Bible says anything about it specifically so whether or not you want to use it with the right intentions is up to you. Theres pros and cons to it (only for someone unmarried)
the choice is up to the individual and how they use it. Not up to us and how we think of it.
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Is basketball holy? Yes, as a sport which involves physical activity with no spiritual negatives, it can be consecrated to God and therefore become holy.
Is it something that can give both you and your spouse pleasure and fulfillment in your bodies? No, and neither does it need too for it was never intended for marriage. Sex is.
Is basketball glorifying God? Yes it can do if dedicated to Him and played for Him.
 
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Lad

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Khorib2 said:
Well, luckily I'm not married and therefore, by Jesus' words, I could look at women with lust without issue (including masturbate). The bible specifically uses the word "adultery", which is reserved exclusively for married folk. This, of course, would assume as well that the person you are fantasizing about is not married either, as that could step onto the ground of adultery
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If God is sovereign then hes already picked your wife for you so everytime you lustfully think about women your committing adultery against your future wife. And also against their future husbands. But even without the 'adultery' issue surely you agree that lusting after women is sin?
 
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godovermoney

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what about when you lust after your future wife lad? surely you would have to lust after her to consider her to be your future wife. or would you?
 
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Lad

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um no. there is a difference between lust and love.
 
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godovermoney

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Ramon said:
I understand you my friend. I do. But what is sin is what comes out of a person's heart. And God judges that. But the issue is if someone is not entirely pure themselves in weaknesses, we have no right to turn that into condemnation. We should rather restore them with love. What I mean is, it is hypocrisy to say THOU SHALT NOT, and we ourselves have laws we have not kept. This is not an excuse to permit anything against what God has said, but again, even if this law is kept, it will not bring salvation. It is Jesus who cleanses a persons heart, to make them have new desires. You all are right though, any lustful person will not enter the kingdom. May Jesus bless you.
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the last thing you said, any lustful person will not enter the kingdom. that scares me. cuz i think most of us agree, this is one of the hardest sins to drop for alot of the times you dont even realize your doing it
 
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zackabba

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1. The Onan example is bad, as it doesn't deal with masturbation.

2. Have you heard of "wet dreams?" You won't explode if you don't do it.

3. Yes, masturbation is wrong. Why? Well, first of all, aren't you just fully pleasing yourself, indulging in yourself and your mind? Secondly, when you do it you probably have to have sexual thoughts in your head to do it. If you are able to do it without having sexual thoughts, then you're probably perfect.

Grace and Love
 
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zackabba

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#119
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Lad said:
um no. there is a difference between lust and love.
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Amen Amen Amen! Why are SO many people not able to distinguish between these two? (probably because, today at least, lust = love for many people. Not all, but many. It's shallow and not deep at all)
 
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