Would Jesus carry a gun?

[Relena7]

And yet a taser can be just as deadly. And you have to be close to the person to use the taser, as you only have so much yardage ( I know that not the right word, but hey. When one has a sinus infection, one is allowed some leeway.)

Okay then, I would tell him to leave them alone or I'll shoot. If he didn't listen I'd shoot near his feet or next to him to scare him long enough for her to get away. If those close bullets didn't distract him, well then he's pretty stupid.

 

[Non-Believer]

He would probably turn the gun into wine.

 

[violakat]

Okay then, I would tell him to leave them alone or I'll shoot. If he didn't listen I'd shoot near his feet or next to him to scare him long enough for her to get away. If those close bullets didn't distract him, well then he's pretty stupid.

That would probably work, and trust me Relena, I don't want to kill anyone either. I'd just probably aim for the hand with the knife in it and hope it was not close to anything vital.

 

[Relena7]

That would probably work, and trust me Relena, I don't want to kill anyone either. I'd just probably aim for the hand with the knife in it and hope it was not close to anything vital.

Yeah, I would hope such a situation would never happen to me. I am such a wimp. Even if the killing is for the "right reasons" I probably couldn't do it. I can't even smash bugs or spiders cause I feel too bad for them. lol

 

[violakat]

Yeah, I would hope such a situation would never happen to me. I am such a wimp. Even if the killing is for the "right reasons" I probably couldn't do it. I can't even smash bugs or spiders cause I feel too bad for them. lol

Bugs, I have no problem with. Spiders I do, but for another reason. They petrify me.

 

[Brandon777]

I don't think I could have said it better.

Brandon, it's not a matter of whether Jesus would carry one or not. The real question should be, are we as Christians suppose to defend others in anyway, including taking the life of another if needed.
Yes, but then would as many people respond to the thread? probs not.
So let me pose this question to you. You see a man, with a knife in his hands, approaching a mother cowering with a baby in her arms. He's yelling at the top of his lungs that he is going to kill her and her child. You are the only one around and so the only one who can do anything. However, you can't get to her in time before he kills her, unless you use a gun. What are you going to do?

It's not so simple to answer when you look at it this way.
Yes, Jesus wouldn't carry a gun, simply because He is God. He has all the power in the universe to stop time, if He wanted. I don't agree. Jesus was fully human and subjected himself to a life without ultimate power. We, however, are not God. Instead, we must use the resources that God gives us to protect others. Guns, in themselves, are not bad. It's the motive of the people behind the guns, that makes the use good or bad.

I agree. Yet, maybe it's kinda good and kinda bad, not as black and white as one or the other. Think about this situation. Same deal, except the man doing the threatening is bipolar and he's become delusional from not being able to afford his medication. He has a large extended family that loves him dearly and he's a devout Christian otherwise. I agree, it's not a simple answer.

 

[violakat]

I agree. Yet, maybe it's kinda good and kinda bad, not as black and white as one or the other. Think about this situation. Same deal, except the man doing the threatening is bipolar and he's become delusional from not being able to afford his medication. He has a large extended family that loves him dearly and he's a devout Christian otherwise. I agree, it's not a simple answer.

I guess you didn't see my response to Relana. My preference would be to aim for the knife hand and hope it's nowhere near any vital organ. And if that is not possible, if I have to shoot to kill, I will. I know that may sound cold hearted, but I do have a brother with bipolar and diabetes both. And yes, there have been times, when he's forgotten to take his meds, that when the ambulance has gotten to his apartment, the police had to be called, because his blood sugar level was so high, it made him as if he was a mad drunk. And to be honest, while I might be upset, and angry for awhile that someone might have to kill my brother in order to save another life, if he were the person in this situation, ultimately, I'm pretty that anger would subside, and I would realize that the other person really had no choice.

 

[Brandon777]

I don't blame you. I wouldn't have to struggle with this problem because I don't go around carrying a gun nor would I own a gun. Even if I lived in a bad neighborhood I would have a bat instead.

 

[Relena7]

I agree. Yet, maybe it's kinda good and kinda bad, not as black and white as one or the other. Think about this situation. Same deal, except the man doing the threatening is bipolar and he's become delusional from not being able to afford his medication. He has a large extended family that loves him dearly and he's a devout Christian otherwise. I agree, it's not a simple answer.

Fire crackers to get his attention, then tranquilizer darts.

Maybe get this poor woman a bullet proof vest while we're at it, she seems to be getting in a lot of trouble lately.

I enjoy messing with hypotheticals, what can I say.

 

[Brandon777]

Fire crackers to get his attention, then tranquilizer darts.

Maybe get this poor woman a bullet proof vest while we're at it, she seems to be getting in a lot of trouble lately.

I enjoy messing with hypotheticals, what can I say.

I think you have something going there. What's wrong with a little Kevlar to sport an outfit?

 

[violakat]

Fire crackers to get his attention, then tranquilizer darts.

Maybe get this poor woman a bullet proof vest while we're at it, she seems to be getting in a lot of trouble lately.

I enjoy messing with hypotheticals, what can I say.

ROFLMHO

That was good. Yeah, I think she does need bullet proof vests. And while we're at it, maybe some courses on how to avoid men wielding knives.

 

[Relena7]

And while we're at it, maybe some courses on how to avoid men wielding knives.

Good idea. maybe some karate lessons.

 

[TheAristocat]

A famous right for Americans is the right to bear arms. So why would a Christian do it? What ever happened to turning the other cheek?

If you had a family and your spouse and children were threatened would you use deadly force to protect them? What's the Biblical answer? Should we shoot to defend OUR lives? That's not what Jesus taught!

I think not doing anything to defend your family shows a lack of love. But if mace is effective or a tazer, then go for it. A gun is a last-ditch effort. But I I'd carry around a gun just as a status symbol. Makes me feel more American, and I like to know that while other countries suppress their citizens out of fear of them America allows its citizens such a right to carry around a dangerous weapon, albeit usually unloaded and in a locked container. rofl

I like guns as status symbols and for use in target practice. I don't even like to hunt with them, but I wouldn't take the right away for anyone to bear a firearm. Sometimes the quality of life outweighs the quantity of it.

 

[WordGaurdian]

A famous right for Americans is the right to bear arms. So why would a Christian do it? What ever happened to turning the other cheek?

If you had a family and your spouse and children were threatened would you use deadly force to protect them? What's the Biblical answer? Should we shoot to defend OUR lives? That's not what Jesus taught!

No Jesus would carry a cross.

Live by the sword, die by the sword.
Live by the gun, die by the gun.
Live by the cross, die by the cross.

 

[Redneck-for-God]

Yes the founding fathers of America WERE Christian! Get Glenn Beck's book, Being George Washington. Read the founding documents, read history that isn't tainted by one side or the other (Liberal vs Consertive). Get the truth.

 

[FSUBoy966]

Yes the founding fathers of America WERE Christian! Get Glenn Beck's book, Being George Washington. Read the founding documents, read history that isn't tainted by one side or the other (Liberal vs Consertive). Get the truth.

You think GLENN BECK wrote a book that isn't biased? hahahaha

Anyway, yes, SOME of the Founding Fathers were Christian. Most, however, were not. Many were mostly Diest, indifferent, or atheist. George Washington BELIEVED in God, he was a Mason, and you need to believe in God for that, but he was a deist by all accounts. He went to church for Martha, and often did not go. Thomas Paine, the father of our Revolution, was an atheist, or at best agnostic. Thomas Jefferson was an atheist.

Also, the Treaty of Tripoli does say that we are NOT a christian nation. It's in black and white, go look it up.

 

[violakat]

You think GLENN BECK wrote a book that isn't biased? hahahaha

Anyway, yes, SOME of the Founding Fathers were Christian. Most, however, were not. Many were mostly Diest, indifferent, or atheist. George Washington BELIEVED in God, he was a Mason, and you need to believe in God for that, but he was a deist by all accounts. He went to church for Martha, and often did not go. Thomas Paine, the father of our Revolution, was an atheist, or at best agnostic. Thomas Jefferson was an atheist.

Also, the Treaty of Tripoli does say that we are NOT a christian nation. It's in black and white, go look it up.

Maybe I need to reread the memoirs of Thomas Jefferson again, but I never got the impression that he was an atheist. In fact, quiet different.

 

[Jullianna]

Apparently a lot of people here have never had a gun at their head! I have looked down the barrell of an AK47, 357 Magnum, and a Glock 9mm. Really a wierd sight to see and to experience. Human survival instint kicks in when your life or the lives of others is put on the line. Everyone reacts differently and I don't care if you are an Athiest or an Evangelist, FEAR kicks in! Obviously I am still here after those events and I won't say what happened to the other parties involved.

Have I taken life? I won't say! Would I take a life if put in a position of defense? Just don't be on the butt end of the gun or knife (weapon)!
Would I regret it if it happened? Absolutly! However, I am a Christian, I am a human and I am a man, dad, and former husband. Please don't test me on this issue. I will pray for you both before, during and after.

As for Matthew 26:50-53, you missed verse 54! There was a reason why Jesus stopped Peter! Read it in context.

Well I hope I haven't come across to hard, but.... Oh ya, how about the guy who walked into a church service and started shooting a few years back? Were they wrong in shooting him or should have they just started praying and wait for their turn?

Yes God is bigger than a gun or any situation we find ourselves in. However He gave us a gift call, "Comon Sinse".

I totally get where you are coming from, Mrdll. This stuff looks great on paper and in theory, but looking down the barrel of a gun, being shot at, watching someone slaughter those who stand against evil with you and watching innocent lives who are looking to you for protection being taken first hand is a whole other thing.

I suppose only non-christians should be cops and soldiers. Can you imagine how inhumanly brutal an army/police force like that would be? wow...

A gun is nothing more than a tool.

JOHN 18:11

10 Then Simon Peter, who had a sword, drew it and struck the high priest’s servant, cutting off his right ear. (The servant’s name was Malchus.) 11 Jesus commanded Peter, “Put your sword away! Shall I not drink the cup the Father has given me?”


Does anyone think Jesus didn't know Peter HAD a sword??? He didn't condemn Peter for CARRYING a sword. He simply told him to put it away....

 

[violakat]

I totally get where you are coming from, Mrdll.

Psst,Jules, Mrdll wasn't saying it was wrong to carry or use a gun.

 

[Cheekygrin]

Ideally, there would be no violence.
However.
We do not live in an ideal world.

God's answer is grace.
Grace covers a multitude of sins.

A stand for righteousness in a fallen world sometimes means acting in a way that assaults the sensibilities of rational people. And yet, it is still the right thing to do in the situation.

"We sleep soundly in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm." – Winston Churchill

"War is always abhorrent and sometimes necessary."