200 Proofs Earth Is Not A Spinning Ball Videobook By Eric Dubay

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Isn't that the same question reworded, really?
well yes of course, I'm just trying to point out that any subject of knowledge is a matter of probability. I'm not talking about belief in God, I'm talking about knowledge of God.
 
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you claim to have been convinced and so I assume you are claiming knowledge of God, not just belief in God.
 
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I'm just interested in how people know things and also how we believe and why. Epistemology is my thing
 

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WATER VAPOR & PERSPECTIVE.
interesting you would say that!

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humidity, temperature differentials and perspective explains why sometimes further-than-calculated-normal distances can be seen in all your examples, but it's not enough to explain why i can't see mountain ranges over arid land on dry days from 100 miles away, if the earth is flat.
 

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnzUgKZ8m2k
i see that the lens on this camera (or is that the camera pointing into a convex mirror?) is obviously distorted in a way that would purposefully counterbalance the curvature of the earth.

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but there are a thousand videos of such flights on youtube where you can see obvious curvature -- not even counting the literally millions and millions of images from NASA, ESA, JSA, the Russian space federation, etc.

so just because you cherry picked 1 or 2 videos which show obvious signs of lens distortion designed to hide the convex horizon, does not mean the earth is flat.

your idol is a liar -- he was a liar from the beginning.
 
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interesting you would say that!

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humidity, temperature differentials and perspective explains why sometimes further-than-calculated-normal distances can be seen in all your examples, but it's not enough to explain why i can't see mountain ranges over arid land on dry days from 100 miles away, if the earth is flat.

No picture show a curved horizon like in your graphic.
 
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i see that the lens on this camera (or is that the camera pointing into a convex mirror?) is obviously distorted in a way that would purposefully counterbalance the curvature of the earth.

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but there are a thousand videos of such flights on youtube where you can see obvious curvature -- not even counting the literally millions and millions of images from NASA, ESA, JSA, the Russian space federation, etc.

so just because you cherry picked 1 or 2 videos which show obvious signs of lens distortion designed to hide the convex horizon, does not mean the earth is flat.

your idol is a liar -- he was a liar from the beginning.
You support NASA Freemasons; I do not.
 

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ahaha, Spherical you made my day, you're so funny!
This is illarious. I'm a non believer, I'm not a christian. To see christians reasonably destroy this ridiculous flat earth theory made my day.
hey, you made my day!

obviously spherical is not paying any attention to having his pet theory flatly debunked over and over... so i feel like i've maybe wasted a lot of my time, though i do find it mildly enjoyable to correct bad physics. but to see that what i'm doing brings you joy, and that a non-believer can see evidence that not all Christians are morons when it comes to science & logical thinking - there are just a few extreme cases, like in almost any group, really makes my heart glad!

yay! thanks for posting, Karaka :)
 

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You support NASA Freemasons; I do not.
red herring dodging the clear refutation of your video, and previously covered.

flat earth theory comes from freemasons.
 
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In 1872 Capt. Gibson and crewmates, sailing the ship "Thomas Wood" from China to London, reported seeing the entirety of St. Helena Island on a clear day from 75 miles away. Factoring in their height during measurement on a ball-Earth 25,000 miles in circumference, it was found the island should have been 3,650 feet below their line of sight.
 
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From Genoa, Italy at a height of just 70 feet above sea-level, the island of Gorgona can often be seen 81 miles away. If Earth were a ball 25,000 miles in circumference, Gorgona should be hidden beyond 3,332 feet of curvature.
 
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Actually man, these tidbits wherever they come from (as no sources are ever cited) an all be attributed to the fact that the earth is a proven oblate spheroid.
 
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Actually man, these tidbits wherever they come from (as no sources are ever cited) an all be attributed to the fact that the earth is a proven oblate spheroid.

From Genoa, Italy at a height of just 70 feet above sea-level, the island of Corsica can often be seen 99 miles away. If Earth were a ball 25,000 miles in circumference, Corsica should fall 5,245 feet, almost an entire mile below the horizon.
 
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Your math is in error because you're calculating it like its a perfect sphere, not an oblate spheroid.
 
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Your math is in error because you're calculating it like its a perfect sphere, not an oblate spheroid.

How do you explain being able to see so far away from certain vantage points?

From Genoa, Italy 70 feet above sea-level, the island of Capraia 102 miles away can often be seen as well. If Earth were a ball 25,000 miles in circumference, Capraia should always remain hidden behind 5,605 feet, over a mile of supposed curvature.
 

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How do you explain being able to see so far away from certain vantage points?

From Genoa, Italy 70 feet above sea-level, the island of Capraia 102 miles away can often be seen as well. If Earth were a ball 25,000 miles in circumference, Capraia should always remain hidden behind 5,605 feet, over a mile of supposed curvature.
[video=youtube;Tg2KAoZNHA8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tg2KAoZNHA8[/video]

how do you explain why you can't always see the island from Genoa, even on clear days, but only when specific atmospheric conditions amenable to superior images are present?

if the earth were flat, you could see this every clear day -- on a clear day you should be able to see Algeria from Genoa. so show me pictures of Algeria from Genoa .. ? with a telescope you should be able to see the great pyramid from Athens. where are those pics?
 
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How do you explain being able to see so far away from certain vantage points?
Well, right off the bat, the numbers you are providing are wrong, but this is to be expected from information without sources. Secondly, Monte Castello on Capraia has an elevation of 447m. With 300m observation height in Genoa and and refraction coefficient of 0.2 at a distance of 164km you get 170.9 km of added intersecting sight lines. Capraia is as visible as the Earth is round.
 
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